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Post by rushy on Dec 26, 2023 19:25:18 GMT
As a writer and an actor you have to be able to play or write characters that are different to you. If not, well fine carve out a niche only playing or writing characters that are similar to you, I don't mind that at all, and some actors/writers have been hugely successful doing that, but normally they don't then take over things that are supposed to be for everybody and change them to suit their limited style/outlook I want to agree with you, but then I'd be a massive hypocrite because I love Paul Darrow's B7 work despite him giving two fat middle fingers to continuity and tonal consistency. I mean, he retconned the Chinese to have their own evil federation comparable in might to the one we know. Servalan never loses the presidency in series D. Blake names the Liberator instead of Jenna. Travis and Servalan have sex. The events of "Duel" are dismissed as a hallucination. Tarrant leads the crew instead of Avon. Vila tries to convince Tarrant to murder Avon. Avon is basically Rambo, at one point taking down 200 troops with his machine-guns and dynamite-firing rocket launchers. Sex, body horror and Vietnam War tactics (and weaponry) are a regular feature. Everyone share Avon's cynical worldview and betray each other at a whim. It's a complete mockery of the show lol. |
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 26, 2023 19:30:48 GMT
Paul Darrow's books aren't comparable though. They are spin off material that as you said in the past are really more fun vanity projects of Paul Darrow than anything else. That would be like if all RTD had written was Damaged Goods. That obviously wouldn't have provoked anywhere near as much outrage. However for the main series, then yes you'd have to adapt.
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Post by rushy on Dec 26, 2023 19:33:39 GMT
Paul Darrow's books aren't comparable though. They are spin off material that as you said in the past are really more fun vanity projects of Paul Darrow than anything else. That would be like if all RTD had written was Damaged Goods. That obviously wouldn't have provoked anywhere near as much outrage. However for the main series, then yes you'd have to adapt. I guess that's true, but he did make several attempts to write for the main series. "Man of Iron" was genuinely intended as a script for Series D, and his "Erebus" audio drama is the closest we'll ever get to an actual performed Darrow text. And even though both of them are just as baffling as his books, I still adore them. I think it's because of the Tommy Wiseau effect. He's so earnestly weird and clearly just writes the way he does because he's an eccentric person having fun with it. There's no agenda to it, and he doesn't think he's superior to what came before. |
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Post by rushy on Dec 26, 2023 19:41:34 GMT
I guess my point is that people will let someone get away with almost anything so long as he's entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2023 20:30:10 GMT
As a writer and an actor you have to be able to play or write characters that are different to you. If not, well fine carve out a niche only playing or writing characters that are similar to you, I don't mind that at all, and some actors/writers have been hugely successful doing that, but normally they don't then take over things that are supposed to be for everybody and change them to suit their limited style/outlook I want to agree with you, but then I'd be a massive hypocrite because I love Paul Darrow's B7 work despite him giving two fat middle fingers to continuity and tonal consistency. I mean, he retconned the Chinese to have their own evil federation comparable in might to the one we know. Servalan never loses the presidency in series D. Blake names the Liberator instead of Jenna. Travis and Servalan have sex. The events of "Duel" are dismissed as a hallucination. Tarrant leads the crew instead of Avon. Vila tries to convince Tarrant to murder Avon. Avon is basically Rambo, at one point taking down 200 troops with his machine-guns and dynamite-firing rocket launchers. Sex, body horror and Vietnam War tactics (and weaponry) are a regular feature. Everyone share Avon's cynical worldview and betray each other at a whim. It's a complete mockery of the show lol. It would be like me becoming showrunner and making my new incarnation of the Doctor a depressed, porn addicted, Pepsi-loving movie buff with Superman IV posters all over the TARDIS. |
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Post by iank on Dec 26, 2023 20:52:22 GMT
4.7 million apparently.
Absolutely laughably pathetic for Xmas Day.
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Post by rushy on Dec 26, 2023 20:55:41 GMT
Well, we have that in common lol. Can't make it through the day without my three liters of Pepsi max. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2023 22:28:42 GMT
Should have done my Sophie Scholl idea instead of pissing about and ripping off Labyrinth. My suggestion of the TARDIS appearance changing to that of the Berghof has also not been taken on board.
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Post by Ludders II on May 12, 2024 4:50:20 GMT
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Jun 3, 2024 13:09:21 GMT
I voted for Moffat. Garbage era. Like Zarius, I'd much sooner watch a Whittaker story (one of the few good ones) over most Moffat stories post Series 5. I'm sick of pretending that Series 6, 8-10 is any better than what's being transmitted now.
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Post by iank on Jun 3, 2024 20:57:15 GMT
They were, though. For one thing they featured a character who was remotely recognisable as the Doctor.
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Post by rushy on Jun 3, 2024 22:13:11 GMT
They were, though. For one thing they featured a character who was remotely recognisable as the Doctor.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2024 0:09:50 GMT
They were, though. For one thing they featured a character who was remotely recognisable as the Doctor. Capaldi I'll give you but I can't stand Smith's portrayal. It's the sentimentality that really drives me up the bend. I've always had an acute sensitivity to melodrama and phoney emotional cues, and they are rife in the Moffat seasons. The Akhaten speech makes me want to vomit. In fact, the way the Doctor became known for his "speeches" during Moffat's tenure was so cringeworthy and further solidified my hatred for the Doctor being characterised as a waxing moraliser. Chibnall pulled the trigger but Moffat loaded the gun. |
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Post by iank on Jun 4, 2024 1:56:20 GMT
I did say "remotely' but I'd argue both are consideraby closer to the classic character than Eccleston or Tennant, let alone the jokes we've had the last six years.
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Post by Ludders II on Jun 4, 2024 5:38:22 GMT
I voted for Moffat. Garbage era. Like Zarius, I'd much sooner watch a Whittaker story (one of the few good ones) over most Moffat stories post Series 5. I'm sick of pretending that Series 6, 8-10 is any better than what's being transmitted now. Why is series 7 off the hook? Just wondering.... |
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