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Post by cyberhat on Oct 6, 2022 19:23:11 GMT
Apparently all the classic actors were conned into appearing in this shitstorm by being told this was the 60th anniversary... No, it's an even worthier cause, celebrating the centenary of a corporation. One that started off life by smashing a general strike and more recently ended socialism forever with a fake smear campaign. |
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Post by zarius on Oct 7, 2022 9:43:44 GMT
Apparently all the classic actors were conned into appearing in this shitstorm by being told this was the 60th anniversary... I mean, technically, I would consider this an unofficial 'first' special in the 60th celebrations, and it allows for RTD to just focus on the NuWho elements without being saddled with mounting pressure to include too much shopping. |
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Post by zarius on Oct 7, 2022 19:04:39 GMT
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Post by iank on Oct 7, 2022 20:51:30 GMT
Apparently all the classic actors were conned into appearing in this shitstorm by being told this was the 60th anniversary... I mean, technically, I would consider this an unofficial 'first' special in the 60th celebrations, and it allows for RTD to just focus on the NuWho elements without being saddled with mounting pressure to include too much shopping. lol Bull. Technically they tried to make this the 60th because they thought they'd gotten the show axed! |
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 7, 2022 22:47:15 GMT
Apparently all the classic actors were conned into appearing in this shitstorm by being told this was the 60th anniversary... I mean, technically, I would consider this an unofficial 'first' special in the 60th celebrations, and it allows for RTD to just focus on the NuWho elements without being saddled with mounting pressure to include too much shopping. Sorry Zarius but that is exactly the attitude that annoyed me about the 50th. That New Who should get the priority in the anniversary celebrations. It shouldn't! True Who still represents the majority of DW and it is better known, every single iconic thing about DW comes from the original. Daleks, Cybermen, UNIT, TARDIS, Regeneration, Sontarans, Silurians, Ice Warriors, Gallifrey etc. The only iconic monster from New Who are the Weeping Angels. Even among the Doctors, Tom is still bigger than any New Who doctor. The idea that New Who should take center stage really gets on my goat personally. |
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Post by zarius on Oct 8, 2022 16:30:31 GMT
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Post by rushy on Oct 8, 2022 18:00:14 GMT
True Who still represents the majority of DW and it is better known, every single iconic thing about DW comes from the original. Daleks, Cybermen, UNIT, TARDIS, Regeneration, Sontarans, Silurians, Ice Warriors, Gallifrey etc. The only iconic monster from New Who are the Weeping Angels. Even among the Doctors, Tom is still bigger than any New Who doctor. The idea that New Who should take center stage really gets on my goat personally. There's a couple of reasons for that. The first and most obvious is that the 'current era' is always prioritized. Three Doctors centered on the Pertwee era, Five Doctors on the Davison era, Day of the Doctor on the Smith era and so forth. The other Doctors are never completely equal to the main one, by design. You don't want to overshadow whoever your current lead and production team are. The second is that the more recent eras are easier to recreate. The writers know them better, the actors are younger/sturdier/more convincing, and they're fresher in the casual audience's memory. Viewers who fell off the wagon at some point will be likely to give the anniversary special a shot if there's some nostalgia there for them. Right now, they would be nostalgic for the RTD era. And the third is that the line between Classic and New Who has largely become irrelevant. Eccleston's stuff aired so long ago now that it's basically a piece of history. The fact that there was a gap between him and McCoy doesn't really matter these days. They're both 'old' Doctors. So whichever one of them gets celebrated, it's all the same. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2022 21:07:03 GMT
Jodie is quite cute to be fair. |
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 8, 2022 21:36:36 GMT
Jodie is quite cute to be fair. I thought you were over her after her stupid comments about how women never did anything in the genre before her? PS I just watched another amazing female led sci fi film Adele Blanc Sec today. I must have dreamed it though as it was released in 2010 and we all know women didn't exist before 2017 when Jodie showed up.. |
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 8, 2022 21:44:43 GMT
True Who still represents the majority of DW and it is better known, every single iconic thing about DW comes from the original. Daleks, Cybermen, UNIT, TARDIS, Regeneration, Sontarans, Silurians, Ice Warriors, Gallifrey etc. The only iconic monster from New Who are the Weeping Angels. Even among the Doctors, Tom is still bigger than any New Who doctor. The idea that New Who should take center stage really gets on my goat personally. There's a couple of reasons for that. The first and most obvious is that the 'current era' is always prioritized. Three Doctors centered on the Pertwee era, Five Doctors on the Davison era, Day of the Doctor on the Smith era and so forth. The other Doctors are never completely equal to the main one, by design. You don't want to overshadow whoever your current lead and production team are. The second is that the more recent eras are easier to recreate. The writers know them better, the actors are younger/sturdier/more convincing, and they're fresher in the casual audience's memory. Viewers who fell off the wagon at some point will be likely to give the anniversary special a shot if there's some nostalgia there for them. Right now, they would be nostalgic for the RTD era. And the third is that the line between Classic and New Who has largely become irrelevant. Eccleston's stuff aired so long ago now that it's basically a piece of history. The fact that there was a gap between him and McCoy doesn't really matter these days. They're both 'old' Doctors. So whichever one of them gets celebrated, it's all the same. The line between classic and new is NOT irrelevant. They were two very different shows that are separated by almost twenty years. The line between TOS and Next Generation is similarly not irrelevant. I'd say it's even bigger than ever now given how much New Who has pissed people off. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2022 21:45:43 GMT
Jodie is quite cute to be fair. I thought you were over her after her stupid comments about how women never did anything in the genre before her? PS I just watched another amazing female led sci fi film Adele Blanc Sec today. I must have dreamed it though as it was released in 2010 and we all know women didn't exist before 2017 when Jodie showed up.. I don't fancy her or anything. Just thought she looked quite nice in the trailer. |
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Post by iank on Oct 8, 2022 22:37:48 GMT
I can't say I agree with the assertion that The Five Doctors "Centred on the Davison era." No it didn't. Quite the opposite - it did the best job of any anniversary of recreating the feel of past eras in individual vignettes with the different Doctors and companions. That's literally one of the best things about it.
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Post by Spark Doll King on Oct 8, 2022 22:44:03 GMT
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Post by Clayton Dickman on Oct 9, 2022 15:06:24 GMT
The rectangular Comic Relief nose suits her. |
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Post by rushy on Oct 9, 2022 17:32:20 GMT
The line between classic and new is NOT irrelevant. They were two very different shows that are separated by almost twenty years. The line between TOS and Next Generation is similarly not irrelevant. I'd say it's even bigger than ever now given how much New Who has pissed people off. The Next Generation is a spinoff, the two aren't comparable. Doctor Who is intended as a continuation, helped by the fact that it was never officially cancelled in the first place. It's a new production team retooling the same premise just as others have done before it. And it has carried on for so long now that it's all amalgamated into one giant entity. We can perhaps thank Big Finish and their many Classic/New crossovers for that. When hearing Tom and David interact is mundane, it's hard to treat it as two different shows rather than one massive behemoth. [/quote] |
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