Russell T Davies to return as Doctor Who showrunner

[zarius]

There goes the neighbourhood

[burrunjor]

May 5, 2022 10:33:04 GMT zarius said:

OK, so it's all been kicking off this week in the rumour round ups

-Someone tweeted out a letter from Bad Wolf they received notifying them that their street would be used in location filming across 3rd of June through to the 9th. It's expected to feature soldiers and controlled explosions

-Speculation that there will be a Doctor announcement on May 14th during the FA Cup Final

-A new leak on reddit suggests the 60th anniversary is a more 'back to basics' alien invasion story which is less celebratory of the franchise and more about The Doctor trying to reconnect with Donna Noble after fifteen years. And yes, Tennant is Jodies' successor as speculated, but only for a while.

Was it the same person who tweeted out all of these rumours? If so then the rumour of the street being used for filming confirmed does lend a lot credence Ten Inch returning. If Freema comes back I might watch it again, otherwise nah sorry. 

[zarius]

May 5, 2022 16:30:14 GMT burrunjor said:

May 5, 2022 10:33:04 GMT zarius said:

OK, so it's all been kicking off this week in the rumour round ups

-Someone tweeted out a letter from Bad Wolf they received notifying them that their street would be used in location filming across 3rd of June through to the 9th. It's expected to feature soldiers and controlled explosions

-Speculation that there will be a Doctor announcement on May 14th during the FA Cup Final

-A new leak on reddit suggests the 60th anniversary is a more 'back to basics' alien invasion story which is less celebratory of the franchise and more about The Doctor trying to reconnect with Donna Noble after fifteen years. And yes, Tennant is Jodies' successor as speculated, but only for a while.

Was it the same person who tweeted out all of these rumours? If so then the rumour of the street being used for filming confirmed does lend a lot credence Ten Inch returning. If Freema comes back I might watch it again, otherwise nah sorry. 

The Tennant/Tate reddit leak was someone else, but the narrative hasn't changed much from what was revealed by the only reliable Jodie climax informant 'Tonedeaf' who said Tennant was going to be  involved.

[zarius]

Posted today

[rushy]

I'm rather looking forward to RTD2. He's so far proven to be the only one out of the modern three to be capable of building a coherent narrative over time. His decision to remove Gallifrey from the equation was imo a good choice, as it added intrigue to Eccleston and Tennant's Doctors. Plus, without the Time Lords watching over the universe, there was an added sense of threat.

Is his era perfect? No, of course not. And a lot of it hasn't aged well. But it still feels much more genuine and earnest than what came later, and was helped by Russell displaying the amazing feat of being able to think one step ahead before writing something instead of just hashing it together with no regard.

[ClockworkOcean]

I see he's already scrapped Chibnall's shitty Dalek redesign.

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FFS bringing back Tennent is probable the worst thing they could do. It's giving in to the biggest f*cking stone around nuwho's neck.

That without Tennent the show is nothing. The last three Doctors have all been hamstrung trying to be his Doctor the second the shows ratings dipped.

The one and only way this could work, is if this Tennent Doctor was some how a darker incarnation. That that persona could never truly let go and has been trying to force his way back since his death, a modern day incarnation of the Valeyard. You could then use that as an excuse for 11 & 12 later erratic behaviour, and Jodie's being a Tenennt light. But that idea is so groundbreakingly good, there is no f*cking way they'd do it.

[cyberhat]

Bringing back Tennant makes RTD the new Adrian Rigelsford

The very worst thing about the RTD era was his narcissistic habit of celebrating himself. This looks the same but with rocket boosters. To think of it, all these Nupoo showrunners have narcissistic personality disorder, I'm sure of it.

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I really like your idea Voord of he couldn't let go all this time and this new Tennant incarnation is basically the valeyard

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May 7, 2022 0:59:28 GMT @lex23 said:

I really like your idea Voord of he couldn't let go all this time and this new Tennant incarnation is basically the valeyard

Thanks. It just seemed like the logical step if your going to bring him back as a Doctor.

The a core aspect of 10 was his unwillingness to regenerate, to change, to the point he waisted a regeneration just to heal himself, and in his final days he grew darker and more selfish. Thats were the whole Timelord Victories series came from after all. 

Each of the next three Doctor's displayed character traits of 10 has time pasted (we know why out of universe but lets work with what we've got), which was pretty much unlike any Doctor prior to 10. They did have similar character traits but you never got the kind of full on regression 11 & 12 seemed to display at times, almost as if something were trying to push through. 13 is the worse of the lot as 10's influence has completely screwed over her  regeneration, creating a Doctor with a far less defined personality of their own. A sign the 10 persona is getting closer to clawing his way back out.

The story arc I would then do is of a dark 10 who embraces his ideals from Waters of Mars, but his plans and ideals begin to crumble he comes to accept his that he was wrong, that he must let go. He then passes on allowing future Doctor's to be free of his influence.

If they did that, and really made a push to bring the series good in a meaningful way, I might just, just mind you, give nuwho a chance. 

But we all know that ain't happening in this lifetime/reality. I just have zero faith in them even thinking of trying such and idea, let alone even pulling it off.

[burrunjor]

May 7, 2022 2:00:05 GMT @palaeoloxodon said:

May 7, 2022 0:59:28 GMT @lex23 said:

I really like your idea Voord of he couldn't let go all this time and this new Tennant incarnation is basically the valeyard

Thanks. It just seemed like the logical step if your going to bring him back as a Doctor.

The a core aspect of 10 was his unwillingness to regenerate, to change, to the point he waisted a regeneration just to heal himself, and in his final days he grew darker and more selfish. Thats were the whole Timelord Victories series came from after all. 

Each of the next three Doctor's displayed character traits of 10 has time pasted (we know why out of universe but lets work with what we've got), which was pretty much unlike any Doctor prior to 10. They did have similar character traits but you never got the kind of full on regression 11 & 12 seemed to display at times, almost as if something were trying to push through. 13 is the worse of the lot as 10's influence has completely screwed over her  regeneration, creating a Doctor with a far less defined personality of their own. A sign the 10 persona is getting closer to clawing his way back out.

The story arc I would then do is of a dark 10 who embraces his ideals from Waters of Mars, but his plans and ideals begin to crumble he comes to accept his that he was wrong, that he must let go. He then passes on allowing future Doctor's to be free of his influence.

If they did that, and really made a push to bring the series good in a meaningful way, I might just, just mind you, give nuwho a chance. 

But we all know that ain't happening in this lifetime/reality. I just have zero faith in them even thinking of trying such and idea, let alone even pulling it off.

It's funny I actually had a similar idea. 

I would have brought Handy back as the Valeyard. The Doctor created from his hand in Journey's End. I would have had it that he and Rose were happy together in that alternate earth they were left on, but couldn't have kids as he was an alien. When she died of old age, he would have been left on earth, still young and alone. Contrary to what the Doctor thought, he would have had more Time Lord DNA which means his single life would have a lifespan of thousands of years. 

On earth he would have been alone after Rose, and driven crazy. (Think of how much 3 hated being on earth for just a few years. Poor Handy meanwhile would be in a worse dilema. No TARDIS, no one he could share his life with etc.) He would also be captured by the Time Lords of this reality who weren't dead and experimented on by them as a Time Lord/Human hybrid, all of which would have fuelled his hatred of our Doctor for dumping him on earth with someone he'd outlive and then just going on his merry way. Think of it being like Khan and Captain Kirk. Eventually Handy would find a way using Time Lord tech to travel to our universe and plan his revenge against the Doctor. That would be the reveal. You'd build up that the unseen villain is a mastermind that hates the Doctor and you'd dupe people into thinking it was the Master, only for an aged David Tennant to step out of the shadows. 

In that story, which would be the mid season finale, the Valeyard would manage to steal one of the Doctors lives, regenerating into Michael Jayston. (We'd see the a young Jayston appear similar to the young John Hurt.) Jayston would then return for the finale set after Trial from his perspective where he would try and steal the Doctors remaining regenerations and kill him, which would end with the Valeyard's death once and for all. 

I always thought that would be a cool story arc that would have merged new and old who together like never before. 

However I would have only done this during the Capaldi era. 

I would have had for Capaldi. 

Season 1, Missy is revealed to be the Time Lady version of Clara that told Hartnell what TARDIS to steal at the end of Name of the Doctor, regenerated into a new body. She was driven mad by the Time War and decided to build a virtual heaven and hell like the Matrix on a far away planet to bring some kind of order and judgement to the universe. In order to power it however, she'd have to drain energy from several stars, killing them, so in the finale the Doctor would have to work with the aliens from these planets to stop her and shut down her virtual heaven. (As a twist Danny would be in her virtual hell for his actions when he was a solider.) Clara would leave after this to figure herself out. 

Season 2. Dalek season where we focus on their war with humanity in the future in two two part adventures throughout the year. Journey Blue and Osgood are the companions. Both bond over having lost loved ones to the Daleks. (In Osgood's case her mother was the little mousey girl in Resurrection of the Daleks that got shot by the Dalek duplicates. That's why she looks up to the Doctor. The finale would see the Daleks in the future work with the humans however. They would make a deal with a group of them who the Doctor was working with that they will agree to some peace talks if the humans lure the Doctor in. The Daleks want rid of him to ensure Gallifrey never returns. 

The Doctor, Journey and Osgood are only able to escape thanks to Rusty who sacrifices himself to save them. The humans having failed in their end lose badly to the Daleks. The monsters don't conquer earth, but they destroy dozens of colonies and kill billions, whilst the Doctor is helpless to watch. 

Season 3

The return of the Master, played by Robert Carlyle in a more old school Holmes/Moriarty showdown. 

Season 4. The Valeyard story arc. I'd also have the Daleks show up in the Christmas special which would wrap up that story, and Journey and Osgood's story and have them live together in the future as a couple to help humanity against the Daleks. The Doctor would also learn from the Daleks that there is another Time Lord, which would set up Romana joining him in the next season, as we'd learn the Time Lords had enough power to send her into this universe to help him, but she got trapped on an alien world and was forced to flee from the Daleks. In the first episode of the next season, he'd find Romana 4 on the run.

Season 5. The Doctor and Romana 4 travel together for one year and working together they are able to bring Gallifrey back in the finale. They'd cause some problems in the finale doing so, maybe unintentionally unleash a horror from the Time War like the Nightmare Child that they would have to destroy. After that however Capaldi's last story is a special set on Gallifrey where we see how much they have struggled in the other universe, and he and Romana finally defeat Rassilon who is played by Brian Blessed. The Doctor is killed in the process and regenerates into the next MALE Doctor. 

The next Doctors era meanwhile is a completely clean break. Romana remains behind on Gallifrey to help it. However if we wanted we could have it that years later she leaves on adventures of her own, setting up a spin off show if we wanted it, whilst the new Doctor, having saved his people is free to go. No Time War backstory, no more angsting, just a new Doctor free to go. I'd give this Doctor five years, and I'd rest the Daleks, the Cybermen, and the Master from his era until his very last season. Focus entirely on new monsters and villains in his time. 

Not to sound egocentric, but had they done that then I honestly think we wouldn't be in as bad a position as we are in now. At least people would still know what the hell the Doctor is supposed to be, and its not like I would have even spat in the face of the SJWs either. Hell I'd have had two lesbians as the companions and set things up for a Romana spin off by reintroducing her to new audiences. 

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