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Post by The Cryptic Fox on Sept 24, 2021 15:11:31 GMT
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Post by henshin on Sept 24, 2021 15:15:27 GMT
Yep, read about this news and, honestly, I am cautiously optimistic.
RTD is my favourite show runner of the revived era of Doctor Who, so it will be nice to bring the show full circle in 2023 by involving him as Producer once again.
I am hoping that RTD will reverse/retcon/amend some of the major issues (Timeless Children) that have marred the Chibnall era.
There's no doubt that he will be working with Tennant again for a multi-Doctor episode and it will be definitely interesting to see how he writes Matt and Peter's Doctor.
Sadly, it will mean that Eccleston definitely will not be returning to the show given his recent comments about RTD with respect to why he never wanted to return.
Will BBC use this as an opportunity to double down on their wokeness?
Unsure. They clearly realise that the entire Chibnall era was a mistake so, if they were to push further in that direction, surely they'd just keep him on board?
Let's see where this goes.
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Post by RobFilth on Sept 24, 2021 15:41:41 GMT
I'm surprised Rani hasn't roared in here on his Clownmobile to a full accompaniment of Murray Gold's farty brass band music yet...
I mean this is probably full positive vindication for all of those hours and years he's spent tapping out reams of bollocks on various forums....
I suspect he probably makes those Whogasm girls on YouTube look quite self contained at this very moment in time.
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 24, 2021 15:56:47 GMT
I'm surprised Rani hasn't roared in here on his Clownmobile to a full accompaniment of Murray Gold's farty brass band music yet... I mean this is probably full positive vindication for all of those hours and years he's spent tapping out reams of bollocks on various forums.... I suspect he probably makes those Whogasm girls on YouTube look quite self contained at this very moment in time. To think this gets picked up and Primeval doesn't. UGH really f*cking depressed now. |
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Post by mistressrani on Sept 24, 2021 16:57:28 GMT
This is fantastic! news for the show and a real show of confidence and a pie in the face for all those clowns who said it was about to be cancelled. A new golden era beckons. Here's a song to cheer old Filth up www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4 |
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 24, 2021 17:03:45 GMT
This is fantastic! news for the show and a real show of confidence and a pie in the face for all those clowns who said it was about to be cancelled. A new golden era beckons. Here's a song to cheer old Filth up www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4Yeah a real show of confidence that the only guy they could get was the guy who did it 10 years ago. |
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Sept 24, 2021 17:06:05 GMT
I'm no longer invested enough in NuWho to truly care, but I'm very curious to see how this plays out. RTD famously said that he'd only ever come back if the show was on the brink of collapse, making this a tacit acknowledgement from the BBC that the Chibnall era has been a disaster. This isn't just a change of head writer either, the entire show is being outsourced to RTD's private production company, which in effect means that every single person currently involved is being fired. It'll be interesting to see if he's able to recapture the wider public and the many disillusioned NuWho fans for whom retconning out the Timeless Child bullshit is a prerequisite for them returning. Beyond a sense of vindication at the tacit admission of defeat, I don't have any strong feelings about this. I'm just curious to see whether he'll be able to take the single worst show in the history of television and turn it into something that normal, sane people might actually want to watch.
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Post by mistressrani on Sept 24, 2021 17:14:04 GMT
I'm no longer invested enough in NuWho to truly care, but I'm very curious to see how this plays out. RTD famously said that he'd only ever come back if the show was on the brink of collapse, making this a tacit acknowledgement from the BBC that the Chibnall era has been a disaster. This isn't just a change of head writer either, the entire show is being outsourced to RTD's private production company, which in effect means that every single person currently involved is being fired. It'll be interesting to see if he's able to recapture the wider public and the many disillusioned NuWho fans for whom retconning out the Timeless Child bullshit is a prerequisite for them returning. Beyond a sense of vindication at the tacit admission of defeat, I don't have any strong feelings about this. I'm just curious to see whether he'll be able to take the single worst show in the history of television and turn it into something that normal, sane people might actually want to watch. Ha ha. Good try. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 24, 2021 17:16:17 GMT
This is fantastic! news for the show and a real show of confidence and a pie in the face for all those clowns who said it was about to be cancelled. A new golden era beckons. Here's a song to cheer old Filth up www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4If nothing else, I'm glad this news has brought you back.  On a more serious and general note, I don't think this'll be as successful as people on here are either sombrely or triumphantly making out. RTD's entire shtick back in the day was to "modernise" the programme and allow it to conform to certain attributes of the zeitgeist (the more tawdry attributes, I would personally say), whereas this course of action does the polar opposite. They're trying to recapture an era that succeeded because of its connection to particular trends of the era, and I don't think this'll be as appealing as everyone across the internet is making out. It's also an act of pure desperation. Imagine if Hinchcliffe was brought back after Williams left. I love Hinchcliffe, but that decision would be completely creatively bankrupt, because it would suggest that the programme is incapable of adapting and changing, and can only survive by leeching off past glories. Imagine someone like Straczynski, Denis Villeneuve or Peter Jackson producing it- that would fill me with far more enthusiasm and intrigue than this does. Give us something new. Stop being so conservative and inward-looking! God, NuWho really is NuLabour. I could be wrong, and people might love this new era, but I can't see this working quite as well as many anticipate. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in that regard though. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 24, 2021 17:23:40 GMT
I'm surprised Rani hasn't roared in here on his Clownmobile to a full accompaniment of Murray Gold's farty brass band music yet... I mean this is probably full positive vindication for all of those hours and years he's spent tapping out reams of bollocks on various forums.... I suspect he probably makes those Whogasm girls on YouTube look quite self contained at this very moment in time. Suffice to say, this aged rather well!  |
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Post by Monster X on Sept 24, 2021 18:25:39 GMT
Pathetic. Desperate. Sad.
Davies brought the Doctor back as a gurning, gormless dustbin man and turned a vintage Sci-Fi show into a mawkish soap opera - I see no reason to celebrate.
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Post by Brian MK.II on Sept 24, 2021 18:47:42 GMT
This is fantastic! news for the show and a real show of confidence and a pie in the face for all those clowns who said it was about to be cancelled. A new golden era beckons. Here's a song to cheer old Filth up www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaMX0Cs5Bc4Yeah a real show of confidence that the only guy they could get was the guy who did it 10 years ago. Ah yes, DOCTOR WHO IS ALL ABOUT CHANGE! indeed./s Seriously, even without all the subtle as a sledgehammer to the face PC shite, when did RTD ever leave? Moffat's first series aside, every series since 2012 has been trying to ape the formula of his era (DEM endings, the Doctor acting like an lothario twat trying to be down with the kids and science fiction storytelling jettisoned in favour of soap domestics.) With Chinballs era, it couldn't have been more blatant with Barrowman, the Rhino Police gits and bronze Daleks. |
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Post by mott1 on Sept 24, 2021 20:02:40 GMT
It's fair to say I'm not exactly caught up with the RTD-era crowd's slaughtering of the fatted calf. Their 'Messiah' is back, and he's come back to a very big mess... www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58682472What will the Doctor's adventures be? Reuniting with the era's companions, three of whose actors have been shamed in the press for indecent behaviour? Either way Jodie and Chibbers now get to walk the plank in the slowest possible fashion, whilst the 'dream team' (cough) either ramp back to the crude but less political tone of the 'classic' (cough) RTD era or continue down the woke path Davies has increasingly been treading, slamming critics of most of his more recent work and comments as being bigoted and out of date. Ironic he's been brought back then, isn't it? I suppose now Davies/Gardner are running it from the Bad Wolf outpost the BBC get to distance themselves if it fails to stop the rot. Still, if it does finally fail there will be a satisfying symmetry to all this! |
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Post by RobFilth on Sept 24, 2021 20:05:48 GMT
Oh, trust you to fokking lap it up.  It got him out of his shell though. I think congratulations are in order. Well done Rani, all those years of you tapping out endless bullshit and hogwash finally paid off! Well done. The only question remains is; How are they going to get Fatheads inflated warty fat head through the door? It sounds like the BBC are washing their hands of the thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 20:53:54 GMT
Pathetic. Desperate. Sad. Davies brought the Doctor back as a gurning, gormless dustbin man and turned a vintage Sci-Fi show into a mawkish soap opera - I see no reason to celebrate. Those were my thoughts exactly. RTD gutted Doctor Who and rebooted the series as hollow version of itself. If the difference between a wild bear and a dancing bear, or a wild elephant and a circus one. The corpse puppet of the classic made to dance and do whatever they needed it to do to make money. I think their all in for a shock though. RTD was the one who created that shit furry bait story. He's supported the entire chinballs era. He is not even the man who did those seasons back in the 00's anymore. Unless the BBC make him, he'll not undo the Timeless Children, he'll just make things even worse. There is literally no way this is good unless he literally has no control of the series and the BBC do a massive back peddle, which I'm 99.9% shore they will not do. Because none of these wankers will ever learn. At absolute best the show will just become a rehash of RTD era but with more modern rubbish pushed in. There is only one good things about this for us classic fans. The Classic never dragged back any of it's old staff in a desperate bid to regain past glory. RTD coming back might just be the saddest thing in Doctor Who History. At least the Classic walked out the door with it's head held high. So pretty much any attempt to try and compare the two's endings fall apart as of now. As a final point, is it really a good idea to bring him back, besides my thoughts on what he'll do? His era is currently under fire due to several controversies to the point that some places wont even have it on their streaming sites, also what if he fokks up BBC? What if bringing back a man who clearly had already run out of ideas befor he left back fires? What if people stop having nostalgia for his era? Because without the RTD era to keep running back to what are you going to do? Well you'll have to finally stop or maybe, just maybe, put some bloody work in and make a good show. |
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