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Post by rushy on Jan 16, 2024 21:07:24 GMT
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Post by burrunjor on Jan 16, 2024 21:10:10 GMT
Jesus Christ that is a brutal answer. Such a shame he feels that way. As if any of the problems in his era where his fault. Also even if they were cheering that someone's dead over a tv show would be pretty f*cking deranged LOL.
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Post by Spark Doll King on Jan 16, 2024 21:14:24 GMT
Poor guy, his era really was Nuwho's last chance to get back on track and they blew it.
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Jan 16, 2024 22:42:34 GMT
While his era was marred by Moffat's appalling creative decisions and the imbecilic diktats of BBC executives, Capaldi's performance as the Doctor was excellent. The gravitas he brought to the role was the last good thing NuWho had going for it before it jumped the shark once and for all.
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Post by zarius on Jan 17, 2024 9:21:12 GMT
Didn't like his Doctor, but he's a fine actor, he has nothing to be ashamed of
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 10:58:32 GMT
Seems like he knows Doctor Who fans like the back of his hand. The ageist abuse he got during the time was shameful. |
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Post by Brian MK.II on Jan 17, 2024 13:24:24 GMT
I feel bad for him. The idea of a Doctor being ''the great actor let down by shit scripts, a clueless production team and meddling from higher ups'' that's often used on Colin Baker is more applicable to him given that Colin started off with great scripts and a good production team with the circumstances that befell his era being down to Grade and his covent f*cking everything up whereas Capaldi had no chance from the moment he was cast and that's before we mention the theory that he was quietly let go, given that he'd flicked from wanting to do at least the same length of tenure as Pertwee to announcing his departure in the space of two months.
The more I see of him, the more I feel like he's getting closer to doing an Eccleston and to a lesser extent, Smith.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jan 17, 2024 13:43:55 GMT
Seems like he knows Doctor Who fans like the back of his hand. The ageist abuse he got during the time was shameful. And half of it was in the f*cking scripts..! |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jan 17, 2024 13:57:27 GMT
given that he'd flicked from wanting to do at least the same length of tenure as Pertwee to announcing his departure in the space of two months. Forgive my possibly faulty memory, but didn’t a similar scenario occur with Smith? I remember him wanting to play the part for years, only to himself suddenly announce his departure in a similar fashion. It’s noteworthy that every actor to have played the part in NuWho, barring Tennant, has received similar treatment to some capacity. I suppose, according to this production team, absolute conformity (as seen with Tennant and likely Gatwa) is preferable to individuality (which Eccleston, Smith and Capaldi all displayed to some extent- either in dissidence or in the creative process). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 14:19:59 GMT
Seems like he knows Doctor Who fans like the back of his hand. The ageist abuse he got during the time was shameful. And half of it was in the f*cking scripts..! It made me laugh at the time when NuWho fans hilariously claimed that the Doctor should get younger with each incarnation. This is never stated anywhere, not even in NuWho. Smith was already in his 20s when he was cast. How much younger did they want the next actors to be? |
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Post by burrunjor on Jan 17, 2024 14:41:09 GMT
given that he'd flicked from wanting to do at least the same length of tenure as Pertwee to announcing his departure in the space of two months. Forgive my possibly faulty memory, but didn’t a similar scenario occur with Smith? I remember him wanting to play the part for years, only to himself suddenly announce his departure in a similar fashion. It’s noteworthy that every actor to have played the part in NuWho, barring Tennant, has received similar treatment to some capacity. I suppose, according to this production team, absolute conformity (as seen with Tennant and likely Gatwa) is preferable to individuality (which Eccleston, Smith and Capaldi all displayed to some extent- either in dissidence or in the creative process). There were rumours of a bust up between Smith and Moffat and even an article about them, but it was at a time when the backlash against Moffat was at its strongest, so take it with a pinch of salt, and honestly it read like a lot of fans projecting their own issues onto Moffat. I'll see if I can find the report, but from memory it said. Moffat was jealous of RTD and wanted a DW universe just like him, which the Paternoster Gang was supposed to be, but nothing came of it. (If true shame as I think there was more potential in a show about them than one about RTD's wank fantasies in Torchwood. Also as far as I know none of the cast exposed themselves regularly too.) It's worth mentioning that whilst the Paternoster spin off never happened, we DID later get Class, that was a lot cheaper with a cast of humans and set in a crappy school, as opposed to gothic Victorian sets. Moffat was furious with the backlash from fans (we know that much is true) which led to him becoming so difficult on set that Matt eventually chucked it. Their final bust up was over the 50th which Matt reportedly hated, feeling it didn't honour the shows history enough. I find this hard to believe, only because Smith whilst a decent guy who has since become friendly with the other actors, wasn't a big fan of the show so I can't imagine he would even be aware of the tradition of bringing back old Doctors. Hell for all he knew the Time War was part of old who. Still it is worth mentioning that Tom Baker did later say when he arrived on set, that he almost walked off. First off he HATED the script, but more importantly he felt everyone was rude to him. He said that they treated him more as an old pest they had to deal with for saddo fanboys than a returning guest of honour. Of course that may just be Tom's ego getting in the way LOL, but that is more or less what he said, however it was only when he bumped into Matt Smith on his way out, who in contrast went out of his way to welcome him that Tom decided to stay and do it. Finally according to the source due to the hectic schedule of the 50th, Moff's aborted attempts for spin offs etc, series 8 was an absolute cluster f*ck. All but a few of the scripts were half finished, as they went into production, very little work had been done on them, a lot were cancelled at the last minute and they had to use old rejected scripts and first drafts etc. Matt apparently took one look at that season and coupled with his dislike of the 50th thought "f*ck it". This I can believe given the quality of season 8's stories. Much like the report says most of the stories do look half finished, half cooked and rejected first drafts. Also a lot of them look rushed in that barring a few exceptions they don't look like they were written for Capaldi at all. Him being caught up in a love triangle with Clara and her boyfriend for instance would have been Matt Smith material. It looked creepy with Capaldi. Again it could all have been rumours, but worth mentioning and Matt also despite doing conventions has not returned for Big Finish yet which is odd. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jan 17, 2024 14:42:26 GMT
given that he'd flicked from wanting to do at least the same length of tenure as Pertwee to announcing his departure in the space of two months. Forgive my possibly faulty memory, but didn’t a similar scenario occur with Smith? I remember him wanting to play the part for years, only to himself suddenly announce his departure in a similar fashion. It’s noteworthy that every actor to have played the part in NuWho, barring Tennant, has received similar treatment to some capacity. I suppose, according to this production team, absolute conformity (as seen with Tennant and likely Gatwa) is preferable to individuality (which Eccleston, Smith and Capaldi all displayed to some extent- either in dissidence or in the creative process). How ironic... |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jan 17, 2024 14:57:39 GMT
And half of it was in the f*cking scripts..! It made me laugh at the time when NuWho fans hilariously claimed that the Doctor should get younger with each incarnation. This is never stated anywhere, not even in NuWho. Smith was already in his 20s when he was cast. How much younger did they want the next actors to be? Yeah. If i recall correctly, the DWM cartoonists Tim Quinn and Dicky Howett once proposed that the final incarnation would be a baby...  Tim and Dicky don't work for DWM anymore. They took the piss...  |
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Jan 17, 2024 16:35:34 GMT
The only thing I've heard Matt say publicly is that he was unhappy with how aimlessly convoluted the Silence arc became, and that he considers Series 5 his best year for that reason.
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Post by iank on Jan 17, 2024 20:33:14 GMT
He did indeed say he was going to be in series 8 though, about a month or something before he announced his departure.
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