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Post by RobFilth on Apr 18, 2022 14:39:34 GMT
To me Chinballs and the others might bringing all of this old stuff back so they can say "well when we brought back oldies like the Sea Devils and Ace and Tegan and made explicit references to the old series then viewers caved, showing we should just keep ignoring the past." Mr Tardis is already saying that Sea Devils episode failed because it was written to pander to guys like us, who just want adventure, sci fi and monsters. Already getting his excuses in and somehow twisting it to be our fault. It didn't work precisely because the damage is already done and it didn't pander to "fans like me", because I'm not going to waste my time watching a moronic written series which obsessively and habitually trashes and abuses its original fanbase. Mr Tardis should get a sense of self awareness on that last point. No one is going to watch a series which continually calls them a c*nt all the time.
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Post by mott1 on Apr 18, 2022 18:01:41 GMT
Did it reference Ed Sheeran and Stormzy, like previous Jodie adventures?
Nothing could please us old fans - with our love of stories influenced by the likes of Bram Stoker, King Arthur, the festival of Passover and war-torn European conflict - more than references to Ed Sheeran and Stormzy.
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Post by zarius on Apr 20, 2022 19:34:15 GMT
Some spoilers on the centennial
-Ace and Tegan are part of a support group that also includes Dan, Graham, Polly, Jo Grant, Mel, Ian, possibly a few others.
-Dan isn't in a lot of the episode, he leaves early to set up the support group sub-plot. I presume this means the scenes with the space suits are in the first few minutes and it's a near-death experience that convinces him to stop travelling.
-Yaz pulls a 'series seven Clara' and travels back along The Doctor's lives, meeting Davision, Colin, Sylvester, McGann.
-The Timeless Child is not acknowledged or walked back on. The final say on it was in Flux.
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Post by iank on Apr 20, 2022 20:59:32 GMT
God, what utter shite. It really is just utter bad fanwank.
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 20, 2022 21:02:59 GMT
If those are spoilers, I'd hate to see a plot revelation...
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 20, 2022 21:05:57 GMT
God, what utter shite. It really is just utter bad fanwank. Yep- sounds abysmal. Imagine hearing the Classic era Doctors being forced to spout Chibnall's dialogue too. God, it feels so ill-fitting, especially for Colin Baker's Doctor...
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Post by iank on Apr 20, 2022 21:07:53 GMT
"Peri and Mel, it's me fam!"
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 21, 2022 8:04:43 GMT
Some spoilers on the centennial -Ace and Tegan are part of a support group that also includes Dan, Graham, Polly, Jo Grant, Mel, Ian, possibly a few others. -Dan isn't in a lot of the episode, he leaves early to set up the support group sub-plot. I presume this means the scenes with the space suits are in the first few minutes and it's a near-death experience that convinces him to stop travelling. -Yaz pulls a 'series seven Clara' and travels back along The Doctor's lives, meeting Davision, Colin, Sylvester, McGann. -The Timeless Child is not acknowledged or walked back on. The final say on it was in Flux. These are the same wankers who constantly told us all change is good. "In order to do good Doctor who you have to smash what came before." Now they are bringing in a 95 year old man in for a cameo where what? What will Ian call the Doctor? He? her? They? Will he discuss how his Doctor was a lonely god, and how he never got over the majesty of his presence? These are the same wankers who hired Claudia Boleyn and made out that they loved her politics and anyone who disagreed with her could get to f*ck. Again I obviously really like Claudia as a person, and I'm certainly not saying don't hire her, but to do so as part of a political statement like they did whilst also doing things like Missy, Cyber Brig, Jodie, the Timeless Children to deliberately upset and provoke the fans. That was sending a message of these are our fans now, the young hip millenial audience. Then oh dear turns out there isn't money in politics and also the likes of Claudia Boleyn aren't going to be little lapdogs they can mould into saying they're great, so much more progressive than the original etc, so they fire and dump them and come crawling back to us with this cringe inducing nostalgia fest? It not only demonstrates a total lack of integrity of these c*nts, but also how little respect they view us, that they think unlike Claudia we'll happily jump back into bed with them. They view DW fans as sad, pathetic losers who are so desperate to be liked they will go along with anything, and who can be pleased so easily with pointless references to the original. "Oh look Tegan and Ace" will be enough to reverse the average fans upset at the Timeless Children in their minds, because well DW fans are saddos who don't have any integrity or true opinions. Any classic era fan that supports this or thinks it is a great way to homage the original is a mug.
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Post by zarius on Apr 21, 2022 12:04:57 GMT
Any classic era fan that supports this or thinks it is a great way to homage the original is a mug.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2022 13:51:39 GMT
Some spoilers on the centennial -Ace and Tegan are part of a support group that also includes Dan, Graham, Polly, Jo Grant, Mel, Ian, possibly a few others. -Dan isn't in a lot of the episode, he leaves early to set up the support group sub-plot. I presume this means the scenes with the space suits are in the first few minutes and it's a near-death experience that convinces him to stop travelling. -Yaz pulls a 'series seven Clara' and travels back along The Doctor's lives, meeting Davision, Colin, Sylvester, McGann. -The Timeless Child is not acknowledged or walked back on. The final say on it was in Flux. These are the same wankers who constantly told us all change is good. "In order to do good Doctor who you have to smash what came before." Now they are bringing in a 95 year old man in for a cameo where what? What will Ian call the Doctor? He? her? They? Will he discuss how his Doctor was a lonely god, and how he never got over the majesty of his presence? These are the same wankers who hired Claudia Boleyn and made out that they loved her politics and anyone who disagreed with her could get to f*ck. Again I obviously really like Claudia as a person, and I'm certainly not saying don't hire her, but to do so as part of a political statement like they did whilst also doing things like Missy, Cyber Brig, Jodie, the Timeless Children to deliberately upset and provoke the fans. That was sending a message of these are our fans now, the young hip millenial audience. Then oh dear turns out there isn't money in politics and also the likes of Claudia Boleyn aren't going to be little lapdogs they can mould into saying they're great, so much more progressive than the original etc, so they fire and dump them and come crawling back to us with this cringe inducing nostalgia fest? It not only demonstrates a total lack of integrity of these c*nts, but also how little respect they view us, that they think unlike Claudia we'll happily jump back into bed with them. They view DW fans as sad, pathetic losers who are so desperate to be liked they will go along with anything, and who can be pleased so easily with pointless references to the original. "Oh look Tegan and Ace" will be enough to reverse the average fans upset at the Timeless Children in their minds, because well DW fans are saddos who don't have any integrity or true opinions. Any classic era fan that supports this or thinks it is a great way to homage the original is a mug. It’s all rather telling isn’t it. 2013, when the show riding high on fumes of its own arse, we get a massive circle wank of how great nuwho is with cameos from only two classic Doctors, one of whom is not even in Day proper, and shite Zygons. 9 years one and after having spat in our faces, the weedy little shite weasels, who were so confident in their female Doctor, are bringing back Tentwat and four classic Doctors, all in a desperate bit to get use back. I feel like Hyenas at the end of the Lion King. “I thought they said we were the enemy?”
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 22, 2022 18:12:30 GMT
These are the same wankers who constantly told us all change is good. "In order to do good Doctor who you have to smash what came before." Now they are bringing in a 95 year old man in for a cameo where what? What will Ian call the Doctor? He? her? They? Will he discuss how his Doctor was a lonely god, and how he never got over the majesty of his presence? These are the same wankers who hired Claudia Boleyn and made out that they loved her politics and anyone who disagreed with her could get to f*ck. Again I obviously really like Claudia as a person, and I'm certainly not saying don't hire her, but to do so as part of a political statement like they did whilst also doing things like Missy, Cyber Brig, Jodie, the Timeless Children to deliberately upset and provoke the fans. That was sending a message of these are our fans now, the young hip millenial audience. Then oh dear turns out there isn't money in politics and also the likes of Claudia Boleyn aren't going to be little lapdogs they can mould into saying they're great, so much more progressive than the original etc, so they fire and dump them and come crawling back to us with this cringe inducing nostalgia fest? It not only demonstrates a total lack of integrity of these c*nts, but also how little respect they view us, that they think unlike Claudia we'll happily jump back into bed with them. They view DW fans as sad, pathetic losers who are so desperate to be liked they will go along with anything, and who can be pleased so easily with pointless references to the original. "Oh look Tegan and Ace" will be enough to reverse the average fans upset at the Timeless Children in their minds, because well DW fans are saddos who don't have any integrity or true opinions. Any classic era fan that supports this or thinks it is a great way to homage the original is a mug. It’s all rather telling isn’t it. 2013, when the show riding high on fumes of its own arse, we get a massive circle wank of how great nuwho is with cameos from only two classic Doctors, one of whom is not even in Day proper, and shite Zygons. 9 years one and after having spat in our faces, the weedy little shite weasels, who were so confident in their female Doctor, are bringing back Tentwat and four classic Doctors, all in a desperate bit to get use back. I feel like Hyenas at the end of the Lion King. “I thought they said we were the enemy?” Are you saying that Ingrid Oliver is a shit Zygon! Just when I thought we could be friends. In all seriousness LOL, I completely agree. I think you can draw an interesting parallel between this and Ghostbusters. Both tried to go for the woke approach and insulted anyone who wasn't sure about it. Then when that tanked miserably, they both went for a nostalgia driven, member berries instalment, with a bunch of aged actors forced to recreate iconic moments from the 1980s like "Are you a god" or Ace fighting a Dalek with a baseball bat in an effort to win back disgruntled fans. In both cases however it just shows how they've run out of ideas in both franchises. Gender bending and nostalgia porn are both to cover up the paper thin stories of both. What the f*ck would GB 2016 have had to get it noticed had it not been for the girl power angel? Similar Legend of the Sea Devils shows you what Chibbers is forced to do when he doesn't have shallow, divisive politics. In GB's case it's somewhat more understandable as the premise was limited, but in DW's case what the f*ck is their excuse?
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Post by UncleDeadly on Apr 23, 2022 12:09:01 GMT
"Oi you! Yes, you, the sword-fighting, establishment-endorsing lesbian Yorkshirewoman...Whaddaya mean you don't know what i'm talking about, you senile old git..??!!"
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Post by mott1 on Apr 24, 2022 21:24:24 GMT
Very senile. How come he never mentioned the events of The Timeless Shite in all the 1960s stories (which for some weird reason were filmed in black and white)?
If there's another season 18-style entropy storyline can it please consume all Nu Who output this time, with the possible exception of 'Children Of Earth'.
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Post by rushy on Apr 25, 2022 12:05:19 GMT
Very senile. How come he never mentioned the events of The Timeless Shite in all the 1960s stories (which for some weird reason were filmed in black and white)? Wasn't the Doctor's memories of that erased?
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 26, 2022 12:51:08 GMT
Very senile. How come he never mentioned the events of The Timeless Shite in all the 1960s stories (which for some weird reason were filmed in black and white)? Wasn't the Doctor's memories of that erased? Yes. The Time Lords would erase the Doctors memories of her/his previous lives every time time he/she reached their 13th live and then de-age him/her back to being a child and then create a new identity for them that would be a hero travelling the universe fighting monsters. Hartnell to Capaldi is just the latest cycle.
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