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Post by zarius on Nov 24, 2023 16:02:58 GMT
The diverse Doctors from RTD's novelization of Rose are illustrated in the new edition
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Post by Spark Doll King on Nov 25, 2023 0:29:12 GMT
The diverse Doctors from RTD's novelization of Rose are illustrated in the new edition Some who it's even stupider in visual form. I'll be fair and say the wheelchair bound one at least looks the part. As for the sword wielding one, thats dose not even feel the f*cking Doctor. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 25, 2023 0:32:48 GMT
Maybe this is a dumb question, but why would the Doctor ever be in a wheelchair?
He'd build robot legs or something if he was disabled.
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Post by iank on Nov 25, 2023 1:51:48 GMT
You're trying to apply logic to people who are incapable of it.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 26, 2023 11:37:29 GMT
As such, this era might be a ratings success amidst the anniversary specials Shit- looks like I was being too charitable here too! |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 26, 2023 11:52:37 GMT
As such, this era might be a ratings success amidst the anniversary specials Shit- looks like I was being too charitable here too! LMAO and this is the highest viewers it's going to get. The 50th was the highest for Matt Smith, the Three Doctors was one of Pertwee's highest, the Five Doctors was one of Davison's highest rated episodes and gave season 21 a boost in the ratings over season 20. Even in the McCoy era when the show was at its absolute low point in popularity (thanks to no one being able to buy it abroad, being put opposite Corrie etc.) Even it still managed to get higher viewers consistently for the first story in the 25 anniversary year Remembrance of the Daleks LMAO. Surely this is the end for the Fitzroy model of DW? Where is there left to go? |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 26, 2023 23:39:44 GMT
Chibnall = Liz Truss.
Davies = Rishi Sunak/Keir Starmer.
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Post by RobFilth on Nov 27, 2023 5:41:59 GMT
Maybe this is a dumb question, but why would the Doctor ever be in a wheelchair? He'd build robot legs or something if he was disabled. Davisons Doctor was in a wheelchair for much of Castrovalva and Pertwee made his escape from Autons in a wheelchair in Spearhead from Space. No robot legs needed in those examples. |
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Post by RobFilth on Nov 27, 2023 5:56:00 GMT
Shit- looks like I was being too charitable here too! LMAO and this is the highest viewers it's going to get. Fathead is still on safe ground because he's still more than doubled the audience from the Shittaker Faketor disaster and the mainstream moron media love him. The episode has received gushing reviews all round in the press. They will keep on saturation force hyping it until it IS a success and they've radicalised all of their cretinous readerships to watch Fatheads drivel again. What I find interesting is how the media are now quite publically admitting that shoehorning in a female Doctor, and completely messing up all Time Lord lore was an outright disaster and ratings flop, and this is after Murdoch repeatedly whined and moaned for decades for it, and then they spread the mis-contextualised information that "Doctor Whos creator" Sidney Newman originally planned and suggested a female Doctor.(completely ignoring the fact that he'd had nothing to do with the programme for 20 years and was ignorant to the lore it had subsequently built up around itself when he did make the suggestion to Grade in the mid 80's) The amount of radicalised morons I came across labouring this misinformation to justify buggering up the whole programme just for their own selfish identitarian cretinous bullshit calling anyone opposed to it a sexist misogynist was incredible. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 27, 2023 6:18:44 GMT
Maybe this is a dumb question, but why would the Doctor ever be in a wheelchair? He'd build robot legs or something if he was disabled. Davisons Doctor was in a wheelchair for much of Castrovalva and Pertwee made his escape from Autons in a wheelchair in Spearhead from Space. No robot legs needed in those examples. Those are obviously temporary cases though. I meant if he was permanently disabled. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 27, 2023 17:48:39 GMT
Fathead is still on safe ground because he's still more than doubled the audience from the Shittaker Faketor disaster and the mainstream moron media love him. The episode has received gushing reviews all round in the press. They will keep on saturation force hyping it until it IS a success and they've radicalised all of their cretinous readerships to watch Fatheads drivel again. Maybe so, but I distinctly remember Jodie Whittaker's first episode being well received by mainstream critics at the time too. I think her first series was generally championed by the press as well. It was the general audience who disowned it and slagged it off, with slavish journalists not bothering to prop it up after the ratings entered free-fall territory. There's no reason this couldn't happen again with Davies. By all accounts, this episode has received a lower audience than Jodie's first, despite the ushering of a popular NuWho Doctor (as opposed to Jodie's controversial and divisive casting) and trailers which admittedly weren't quite as poor as Series 11's. There's only so much you can saturate something, and barring one or two exceptions, I'm seeing absolutely no enthusiasm for this among others in my personal life. If we're going to return to the NuWho/NuLabour analogy, he was lauded akin to Tony Blair in 1997 when he first produced this. He is now closer to Blair in 2005, or arguably Keir Starmer. He is no longer "fresh", courtesy of his style and influence permeating the bloody programme for years. As UncleDeadly has observed on here before, Jodie Whittaker may have been a disaster, but she was essentially a poor imitation of Tennant's performance. The worst tenets of Davies' era have lived on for years in different iterations, and have been gradually rejected by audiences. As you remarked on this page's first thread, replaying Davies' greatest hits won't make the series feel fresh again. If the public are radicalised to consume this stuff, what they're consuming will be noticeably out of date. The nauseous aftertaste certainly won't encourage extra consumption... |
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Post by rushy on Nov 27, 2023 17:59:15 GMT
As you remarked on this page's first thread, replaying Davies' greatest hits won't make the series feel fresh again. We shouldn't forget that this is still an anniversary special. Where Davies takes the series with Ncuti is what truly matters. Yes, I'm sure he hoped to gain back many more viewers than he did, but this trilogy is deliberately designed to be an outlier. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 27, 2023 18:14:32 GMT
As you remarked on this page's first thread, replaying Davies' greatest hits won't make the series feel fresh again. We shouldn't forget that this is still an anniversary special. Where Davies takes the series with Ncuti is what truly matters. Yes, I'm sure he hoped to gain back many more viewers than he did, but this trilogy is deliberately designed to be an outlier. I'm aware this is supposed to be a special, but by all accounts, the expectation was that such returning elements would bring an audience back and revitalise the programme. This doesn't look to have been the case. Even if returning elements are reigned in during Gatwa's time, the programme's template and style almost certainly won't change, courtesy of the person sitting in the producer's chair having already made the programme 18 years ago. The core expectation on behalf of BBC PR managers is that the decision to specifically bring Davies back will restore the programme to its past popularity, and Davies' presence is consistent across these specials and Gatwa's era. As such, what we're seeing now is likely a strong indicator of what we'll be getting once Gatwa arrives. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 27, 2023 18:25:10 GMT
We shouldn't forget that this is still an anniversary special. Where Davies takes the series with Ncuti is what truly matters. Yes, I'm sure he hoped to gain back many more viewers than he did, but this trilogy is deliberately designed to be an outlier. I'm aware this is supposed to be a special, but by all accounts, the expectation was that such returning elements would bring an audience back and revitalise the programme. This doesn't look to have been the case. Even if returning elements are reigned in during Gatwa's time, the programme's template and style almost certainly won't change, courtesy of the person sitting in the producer's chair having already made the programme 18 years ago. The core expectation on behalf of BBC PR managers is that the decision to specifically bring Davies back will restore the programme to its past popularity, and Davies' presence is consistent across these specials and Gatwa's era. As such, what we're seeing now is likely a strong indicator of what we'll be getting once Gatwa arrives. Also bare in mind Gatwa may not even get big viewers for his first episode, as his first appearance is in these specials, yet no one knows exactly when he will be appearing in them meaning his first appearance could pass unnoticed ad then by the time his first proper episode has to air, he won't have the element of a new Doctor as some people can say "oh I saw him he wasn't very good, or he's okay". RTD could be making a mistake this way. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 18:21:14 GMT
I'm not falling for anything on Christmas Day. Knowing Channel 4 they'll probably put one of the Home Alone films on at the same time and I'll just watch that.
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