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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:49:37 GMT
Voice from the Past has Paul Darrow. Doesn't make it good I'm afraid. Do you NAAAAHHHHHTTT THEEEEEEEEENKKKK I HAAAAVVEEE SMELLLLLED YOU OAWWWWWWWWWTTTTT? That was Tommy Wiseau level of delivery from Brian Croucher there I'm afraid LMAO. I maintain that Croucher's Travis is more interestingly written than Grief's, but having him dress like this is a real insult to an otherwise decent actor.  |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2023 22:52:07 GMT
wtf what did Glen McCoy do I mean as a writer. Let's be honest, Modern Who is just a glammed up version of Timelash. Actually yes it is. The Unquiet Dead, Tooth and Claw, The Shakespeare Code, Unicorn and the Wasp, Vincent and the Doctor of all things, Rosa, that awful Mary Shelley Cyberman episode, are all variations of the same basic premise as Timelash. The Doctor meets a historical figure, often a creative one, and his adventure inspires their work, said historical figure is sanitised and made a bit more lovable and maybe has a romantic interest in the companion (like HG Wells fancying Peri and going out of his way to rescue her from the Penis Lizard LOL.) The historical figure also gets to save the day at some point too. Now in all fairness Vincent and the Doctor was a brilliant reworking of the idea so fair enough, but it does go to show you how maybe there was more in Timelash than people give it credit for as it did seem to hit on an idea lots of writers and fans seem to like. Of course just being the first to do something doesn't mean yours will be good. Timelash is still done in such a poor way it's a shit fest LOL. An entertaining shitfest because of the ham acting, but still a shit fest nonetheless. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2023 22:53:56 GMT
Do you NAAAAHHHHHTTT THEEEEEEEEENKKKK I HAAAAVVEEE SMELLLLLED YOU OAWWWWWWWWWTTTTT? That was Tommy Wiseau level of delivery from Brian Croucher there I'm afraid LMAO. I maintain that Croucher's Travis is more interestingly written than Grief's, but having him dress like this is a real insult to an otherwise decent actor. I love Crouchers Travis and had 0 problems with his performance. Trial is actually the characters shining moment, takes us deep into his psychology and that of the Federation and has some great moments with him and Servalan, showing how ruthless she is, but also how much more she respects him at the same time. However yeah, dressing him in a way where he can't speak and then giving him long lines maybe wasn't the best idea LOL. Why didn't they just have him write it down, or use a robot voice box or something? |
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2023 22:55:10 GMT
Timelash has Paul Darrow. Automatic win! Voice from the Past has Paul Darrow. Doesn't make it good I'm afraid. YOU TAKE THAT BACK!  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:55:51 GMT
I maintain that Croucher's Travis is more interestingly written than Grief's, but having him dress like this is a real insult to an otherwise decent actor. I love Crouchers Travis and had 0 problems with his performance. Trial is actually the characters shining moment, takes us deep into his psychology and that of the Federation and has some great moments with him and Servalan, showing how ruthless she is, but also how much more she respects him at the same time. However yeah, dressing him in a way where he can't speak and then giving him long lines maybe wasn't the best idea LOL. Why didn't they just have him write it down, or use a robot voice box or something? Oh, he's bloody brilliant in Trial. That's probably one of the best episodes of the entire show. That stuff with Blake and the creature is a bit strange (though she's quite a sweet thing), but the trial itself is very tense. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 22:56:26 GMT
Voice from the Past has Paul Darrow. Doesn't make it good I'm afraid. YOU TAKE THAT BACK! Paul Darrow is in Die Another Day as well  |
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2023 22:56:51 GMT
I love Crouchers Travis and had 0 problems with his performance. Trial is actually the characters shining moment, takes us deep into his psychology and that of the Federation He's absolute shit in Weapon, but improves thereafter. He's blamed it on the director and I believe him, because the direction is absolute shit in Weapon too. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2023 23:00:28 GMT
I love Crouchers Travis and had 0 problems with his performance. Trial is actually the characters shining moment, takes us deep into his psychology and that of the Federation He's absolute shit in Weapon, but improves thereafter. He's blamed it on the director and I believe him, because the direction is absolute shit in Weapon too. I always thought George Spenton-Foster was one of the better directors. I certainly enjoy his work for Who. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2023 23:03:19 GMT
He's absolute shit in Weapon, but improves thereafter. He's blamed it on the director and I believe him, because the direction is absolute shit in Weapon too. I always thought George Spenton-Foster was one of the better directors. I certainly enjoy his work for Who. There are so many errors and bizarre eccentricities in his work. There's a scene where he zooms into the window behind Servalan, clearly showing how the stars are actually lamps. That's when I realized he has no idea what he's doing. Ian McCulloch had issues with him on Survivors too, saying that he basically ignored his writing and did whatever he wanted with the script. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2023 23:25:46 GMT
I love Crouchers Travis and had 0 problems with his performance. Trial is actually the characters shining moment, takes us deep into his psychology and that of the Federation and has some great moments with him and Servalan, showing how ruthless she is, but also how much more she respects him at the same time. However yeah, dressing him in a way where he can't speak and then giving him long lines maybe wasn't the best idea LOL. Why didn't they just have him write it down, or use a robot voice box or something? Oh, he's bloody brilliant in Trial. That's probably one of the best episodes of the entire show. That stuff with Blake and the creature is a bit strange (though she's quite a sweet thing), but the trial itself is very tense. Haha yeah poor Sil she was adorable. I also love the joke at the end about a philosophical flea. Even Blake who has borderline threatened Avon earlier has a good laugh at it. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 22, 2023 23:26:33 GMT
I always thought George Spenton-Foster was one of the better directors. I certainly enjoy his work for Who. There are so many errors and bizarre eccentricities in his work. There's a scene where he zooms into the window behind Servalan, clearly showing how the stars are actually lamps. That's when I realized he has no idea what he's doing. Ian McCulloch had issues with him on Survivors too, saying that he basically ignored his writing and did whatever he wanted with the script. Apparently according to Jacqueline Pearce the guy was an absolute bully to Brian as he didn't think he could act. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2023 23:36:58 GMT
Yeah, I love Gambit, but that sort of person sounds like a nightmare to work with. I can understand why Maloney and Croucher both hate that episode (their commentary on Gambit is quite politely venomous XD)
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2023 23:39:43 GMT
anyway, my personal thoughts on Travis is that Greif is better on TV, but Croucher is better on audio. Audio Croucher is a f*cking menace, whereas Greif just kinda carries on from where he left off.
On a sidenote, it was a great touch by whoever produced the Blake's 7 range to keep both actors in the role, depending on which season the story was set in.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 22, 2023 23:53:58 GMT
For Classic Who standards, yes, but even the best classic episodes look pretty naff compared to even the most unremarkable NuWho episodes. Classic Who looked exactly the same as every other British show that came out at that time. If you're going to go after the classic series then you should also go after Series 1's vaseline filter look. looks markedly more slick and cinematic than Rose does. Which of these is more convincing today, and which has the better music? |
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Post by rushy on Nov 22, 2023 23:54:53 GMT
anyway, my personal thoughts on Travis is that Greif is better on TV, but Croucher is better on audio. Audio Croucher is a f*cking menace Evidence: |
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