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Post by burrunjor on Apr 18, 2022 20:36:11 GMT
I've watched seven episodes in total, six of Series 11 and the 2021 New Year's special. I sat through the worst of the Capaldi era, but Jodie's rubbish was just too much for me. My sister and mum used to watch the series too but they don't anymore. Bloody sexists! Yup, they're obviously a couple of women hating misogynists! I admit, I was losing the will to keep watching during Capaldis second season, the third one peaked my interest a bit more and then his final insultingly abusive regeneration story finished me off for good, where I finally decided "f*ck you, good night and f*ck off" It was pretty obvious in Jodies opening scenes how she was going to play it and where the series was going and I decided I didn't have to watch such predictably moronic rubbish anymore just out of loyalty to a Classic Series which the NuWho production team obviously had nothing but outright contempt for. Even though I fancy her now, she really is so toe curlingly bad as the Doctor it is, and I'm not exaggerating, quite possibly the worst case of miscasting I have ever seen. I keep going on about her singing being better, but really she's probably going to have to become a singer, because I genuinely think her acting career is over after this. Chinballs career is over too. |
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Post by iank on Apr 18, 2022 21:13:19 GMT
WOW you've never been tempted out of morbid curiosity? You're a stronger person than me. I haven't watched a full Jodie episode yet either. I attempted to watch the first one a year or so ago, but had to give up as soon as Jodie appeared acting like a moronic imbecile for fear of completely losing control and putting my boot through the screen. I've seen clips and that's about it. None of them have managed to persuade me that tuning out of the show was a mistake. I'm afraid I can't take more than 30 seconds of her. She's toecurlingly awful. As much as I think a female Doctor is a bad and completely unnecessary idea (and done for truly hateful reasons), they could have got away with it with a good enough actress had the scripts been up to par too. There are several actresses I can think of who could have pulled it off with a Romana-esque characterisation and performance. But Jodie is genuinely unwatchable. |
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Post by iank on Apr 18, 2022 23:16:36 GMT
Apparently it was beaten by Antiques Roadshow. A repeat.  |
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 19, 2022 2:34:15 GMT
I'm afraid I can't take more than 30 seconds of her. She's toecurlingly awful. As much as I think a female Doctor is a bad and completely unnecessary idea (and done for truly hateful reasons), they could have got away with it with a good enough actress had the scripts been up to par too. There are several actresses I can think of who could have pulled it off with a Romana-esque characterisation and performance. But Jodie is genuinely unwatchable. Completely agree with this 100%. I don't think it's that Jodie's a particularly bad actress either, I saw her in Black Mirror before she was cast as The Doctor and she was fine in that. I think her awful portrayal is purely down to the cripplingly bad and unimaginative direction she has been given, "Oooh let's exaggerate your colloquialisms and could you maybe play it a bit like David Tennant too?" To all intents and purposes Whittaker thinks she is playing The Doctor upon the really awful direction and diktat she has been given. I would have accepted a female Doctor had a good interesting narrative McGuffin been placed to explain it too, but pretending that regeneration has always been gender-fluid when it was so clearly established throughout the 26 year run of the Classic Series that this definitely isn't the case is just an insult to the intelligence of the long term viewer. It's called regeneration, not re-genderation, look up the word in the dictionary. There's nothing that implies gender fluidity in there. The whole reason Jodie was cast was to satisfy Rupert Murdoch getting his rocks off on Tom Bakers ludicrous suggestion almost 4 decades ago because it satisfies his trans-ridiculing and undermining agenda. At one time the BBC used to challenge Murdoch, but now they are slavishly obedient. |
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Post by iank on Apr 19, 2022 8:07:40 GMT
What gets me is that - much as with The Moment in Day giving the perfect opportunity to bring in old Doctors and companions yet Moffat avoids it like the plague - there was an opportunity in Capaldi's last to give an explanation; the Doctor has been killed, and a regeneration is only kickstarted by Bill's now-alien "tears". That could have sufficed as an explanation. But no, instead we get the "all Time Lords are gender benders" nonsense.
Wouldn't have made Jodie any less awful, but would have at least been less clearly uncanonical and intelligence-insulting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 10:13:00 GMT
LOL 5.0 on IMDB and it's falling all the time. It has a worse rating than Warriors of the Deep |
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Post by billpatjontom on Apr 19, 2022 16:49:38 GMT
What a pleasant surprise to be treated to some truly great science fiction once more on tv over the Easter weekend. Absolutely wonderful story, enthrallingly entertaining throughout and really classic stuff I thought. I speak of course of the repeat of Spearhead from Space on the Forces TV channel.  However, that same weekend I also accidentally caught unfortunate sight of the final moments of New Poo's latest effort. I was naturally about to change channel but then paused to watch a few moments. Morbid curiosity perhaps prompted me to stick out the final moments of the episode although (mercifully?) I'd missed seeing any modern Sea Devils. What instantly struck me was how ill suited to the role Jodie really is. She just didn't grab me on any level at all. Nor did her "acting" convince me she could be "The Doctor" in any way, shape or form. Now, admittedly, I cannot fully evaluate such a weak performance based on only fleeting glimpses. In all honesty though I doubt whether I could ever stomach such a flat rendition for more than a few moments. The same goes for her companion in the scene. Really dreadful. It's all so far removed from the quality and spirit of the original series that this current version seems not only illegitimate but a downright affront to all the great stuff that came before. Seeing the self-important trailer for the next "thrilling" instalment made me feel slightly puzzled too. Maybe they need the money of course but why the hell should two senior companions from the original classic Who series even want to be associated with such insulting rubbish? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 17:12:46 GMT
Holy shit, you guys weren't kidding about the editing. Awful, awful stuff.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 19, 2022 17:16:00 GMT
LOL 5.0 on IMDB and it's falling all the time. It has a worse rating than Warriors of the Deep And Timelash. And Time of the Rani, for that matter. |
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 19, 2022 17:20:31 GMT
Holy shit, you guys weren't kidding about the editing. Awful, awful stuff. I was just reading some reviews for this one and apparently the incoherent editing made even Andrew Cartmel look like the King of the narrative-continuity flow. Many reviewers remarking it was like several whole scenes had been chopped out of the thing and jarring jump-scenes and confusing narrative flow. |
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 19, 2022 17:22:50 GMT
Holy shit, you guys weren't kidding about the editing. Awful, awful stuff. Honestly one of the worst sword fights I've ever seen. The way they swung the swords was so slow, stiff and unconvincing. Didn't they have the cash for a decent stunt double? |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 19, 2022 17:35:02 GMT
LOL 5.0 on IMDB and it's falling all the time. It has a worse rating than Warriors of the Deep Just browsed through the site- I've encountered about thirty 1 star reviews thus far, with the most optimistic reviews consisting of one 6/10 and one 8/10 respectively. The most prominent topic of discussion is how poorly paced, sporadic, incoherent and erratic the episode is. That clip you just linked is awful. Not only is the geography of the fight sequence impossible to decipher (carried primarily by Whittaker's stilted exposition rather than the Mise-en-scène or visual direction), but there's some truly appalling gags and acting on display. It's practically performed like a piss-poor school play, albeit even more insulting to the intelligence of its audience... |
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 19, 2022 18:00:15 GMT
"Ow doo yoo lack me pah-wit mooves?"
"Bettah than y'outfit!"
I was in tears of laughter over that hysterical and intelligent wit on display.
Do you think they will ever feature characters who aren't colloquial village idiots in this series again?
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Post by cyberhat on Apr 19, 2022 21:23:01 GMT
It sums up the biggest flaw in all of nupoo. The amount of hours put into the FX far far exceeds the amount of hours put into the script.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 8:36:53 GMT
Holy shit, you guys weren't kidding about the editing. Awful, awful stuff. You know it’s funny, ol Chibnell went on tv and lambasted the Classic for running up and down corridors and silly monsters. Mean while his penultimate episode is silly monsters in badly edited fights. I know which I prefer. |
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