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Post by RobFilth on May 8, 2021 5:11:52 GMT
And now he's got trounced in Hartlepool, almost half the votes Corbyn got when he retained the seat. Oh dear, oh dear, oh Keir... Yep. He's completely fokked it: Hartlepool Labour results: 2005: 18,251 2010: 16,267 2015: 14,026 2017: 21,696 2019: 15,464. 2021: 8,589. He can't seriously blame Corbyn for this result, surely? You can pretty much guarantee he, his saboteur scab colleagues and their Tory MSN buddies will probably have a darn good spin trying to. They'll still be blaming Corbyn when they're left with just 130 MP's after the next General Election. Lol, seeing Starmer have a stroppy spin over the locals reminded me of when Ed Balls lost his seat. |
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Post by burrunjor on May 8, 2021 7:37:31 GMT
"Every time we didn't win I died a little."
"Every time we lost a seat I wondered why a little."
"Every time we lost a seat." (Runs off sobbing.)
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2021 11:55:18 GMT
The Tories attempts to buy votes by cutting the basic rates of income tax is just a sham. Labour categorically state that they will not increase tax. Labour isn't about that. The tax system in this country should be fair for everyone. The middle classes have absolutely nothing to fear from labour.
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Post by mott1 on May 8, 2021 19:42:32 GMT
Angela Rayner has been offered up to the press as human sacrifice (as party chair, anyway).
Starmer certainly showing a ruthless streak!
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Post by Bernard Marx on May 8, 2021 22:04:07 GMT
Angela Rayner has been offered up to the press as human sacrifice (as party chair, anyway). Starmer certainly showing a ruthless streak! He’s gone and started yet another internal party civil war. He’s such a bloody idiot. I haven’t seen a more insipid and unlikable yet also downright strategically inept Labour Leader before. He’s a complete gift to the Tories. It’s no wonder the press haven’t bothered slating him, and it’s not just because he poses no threat to the status quo. They don’t need to! His ineptitude is self-explanatory. Doesn’t need spinning in any way. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 24, 2021 15:05:14 GMT
Looks like Starmer may well be out soon. This upcoming by-election may well finish him off given that he and his team are giving absolutely nobody a reason to support them with any modicum of passion, although he'll undoubtedly just be followed up by another Blairite figure. Chances are that they'll blame the result on Corbyn anyway, as opposed to constituents being pissed off with Starmer's placidity when it comes to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and just about every issue under the sun, so he might well stay leader if it goes tits-up.
Meanwhile, with these Cummings revelations thrown out there, I suppose there's the question of whether Johnson will be PM by the next General Election. I reckon he will be given that his electoral platform of levelling up seems to resonate with impoverished working class constituencies quite pertinently (though somebody else could well uphold it), although may well depart shortly afterwards.
With the Lib Dems trouncing the Tories in Chesham and Amersham (although the party probably hasn't been un-Clegged yet), I suppose this new electoral formula isn't cost-free. If Labour adhere to an economically neoliberal platform, which they undoubtedly will do for decades at the very least, they have no chance of winning their former heartlands back, and it's obvious that the Lib Dems hold more agency in affluent middle-class remain-voting areas which were traditionally Tory beforehand (it should be briefly noted that Labour's strongest performance in Chesham and Amersham was, shockingly, in 2017 under Corbyn). Therefore, Labour are buggered in every possible part of the country now.
I can't believe how useless Starmer has been. What a vacuum of a man.
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Post by mistressrani on Jul 2, 2021 10:25:36 GMT
Well I guess all the Corbynites are crying in their cornflakes this morning.
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Post by RobFilth on Jul 3, 2021 7:31:00 GMT
Well I guess all the Corbynites are crying in their cornflakes this morning. No, traditional life long Labour supporters are all packing up and leaving and voting for other parties instead as evidenced by Labour losing over a third of their vote in Batley and Spen to a misogynistic egotist. When over 8,000 of the electorate see Galloway as a better option to Starmer it's a totally damning indictment. Had the Tories not been so complacent in their (non-existent) campaign, they would have whipped another formerly safe seat away from Labour. Perhaps you'd better personally write a thank you letter to Matt Hancock? It has to be said, it was quite a shrewd move of the Tories allowing Starmer to keep this seat(by a whisker), Starmer is their greatest asset! |
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Post by mott1 on Jul 7, 2021 10:44:27 GMT
Well I guess all the Corbynites are crying in their cornflakes this morning. No, traditional life long Labour supporters are all packing up and leaving and voting for other parties instead as evidenced by Labour losing over a third of their vote in Batley and Spen to a misogynistic egotist. When over 8,000 of the electorate see Galloway as a better option to Starmer it's a totally damning indictment. Had the Tories not been so complacent in their (non-existent) campaign, they would have whipped another formerly safe seat away from Labour. Perhaps you'd better personally write a thank you letter to Matt Hancock? It has to be said, it was quite a shrewd move of the Tories allowing Starmer to keep this seat(by a whisker), Starmer is their greatest asset! Indeed. I kind of wonder whether their clinging on in Batley & Spen was a blessing in disguise for the Tories. It seemingly had more to do with the candidate literally sprinting from door to door than Starmer. And Keir's triumphalism was ridiculous and cringeworthy("It's coming home"!?) More flag-shagging! I reckon he'll start playing Jerusalem when he stands up at PMQs soon... |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jul 7, 2021 12:00:30 GMT
No, traditional life long Labour supporters are all packing up and leaving and voting for other parties instead as evidenced by Labour losing over a third of their vote in Batley and Spen to a misogynistic egotist. When over 8,000 of the electorate see Galloway as a better option to Starmer it's a totally damning indictment. Had the Tories not been so complacent in their (non-existent) campaign, they would have whipped another formerly safe seat away from Labour. Perhaps you'd better personally write a thank you letter to Matt Hancock? It has to be said, it was quite a shrewd move of the Tories allowing Starmer to keep this seat(by a whisker), Starmer is their greatest asset! Indeed. I kind of wonder whether their clinging on in Batley & Spen was a blessing in disguise for the Tories. It seemingly had more to do with the candidate literally sprinting from door to door than Starmer. And Keir's triumphalism was ridiculous and cringeworthy("It's coming home"!?) More flag-shagging! I reckon he'll start playing Jerusalem when he stands up at PMQs soon... Arrogant, isn't it? The party literally *lost* votes. They had a majority of over 3000 initially- now it's 10% of that. How does that equate to the party "coming home"? To be honest, the current English football team would probably be perceived as too left-wing for the Labour Party. |
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Post by RobFilth on Jul 10, 2021 7:42:58 GMT
To be honest, the current English football team would probably be perceived as too left-wing for the Labour Party. If the England football team were members of the Labour Party, they'd have all been chucked out by now for being Marxist Antisemites. Still, that demented washed up crone Margaret Beckett had them all in stitches on the BBC the other night when she dismissed criticism as Starmer as "fantasy politics" before going on and proclaiming him like Gareth Southgate!  Grewed up polly tricks. |
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Post by mott1 on Jul 16, 2021 9:16:47 GMT
Former Labour voters in Blackpool haven't even heard of Starmer, in the BBC's clips section today... he says it's "immensely frrustrating" and he'll "sweat blood" to change that.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jul 16, 2021 10:01:23 GMT
Former Labour voters in Blackpool haven't even heard of Starmer, in the BBC's clips section today... he says it's "immensely frrustrating" and he'll "sweat blood" to change that. Here's the full article: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57848266?fbclid=IwAR1NeBKyy1INl5e6-ehRoMMCE9fHFUJ7qOobL64YIXGHbyBZSr6vFjK48lM"To turn this into an argument about Jeremy Corbyn is to do exactly what I want the Labour Party to stop doing." Sir Keir told Laura Kuenssberg after the event. "We have been looking internally, we need to turn ourselves inside out, and be talking to and engaging with voters." Jesus. All they ever did after the local election results was complain about "Long Corbyn". Mandelson certainly loved that narrative. That's not to mention the number of sentiments from right-leaning MPs effectively saying "We're electable now, but the general public doesn't know it yet", in variably patronising ways. He talks about turning away from internal disputes and "talking to voters", but what does he actually plan on talking about? What does that mean? How will it benefit the working classes economically? How will he offer a properly viable alternative to Johnson's "levelling up" agenda? The following passages are telling too: "Catherine said her family had been miners and that she was a dyed-in-the-wool Labour voter, but the leadership of Tony Blair had put her off the party." "Frank said he stopped voting Labour following the Iraq war. He also brought up then-Labour Prime Minister Gordon Brown calling a Labour voter a "bigot" after she expressed concerns about immigration." This clearly outlines the general trend that these communities tend to be economically left-wing (as evidenced by their dislike of Blair) whilst also being socially conservative. It's not solely a case of "The working classes are simply more right-wing today" as many like to depict it as. Johnson's formula is superb for them because he ticks the boxes on both grounds. Relinquish austerity and the subsequent debasement of deprived areas through the agenda of "levelling up" whilst also appealing socially via his implementation of Brexit. Starmer was the man who implemented Labour's remain position in 2019 into the manifesto (despite also endorsing the end of free movement in 2017, interestingly) so it's difficult to see how he'll cut through, especially with an economically right-wing platform thrown in. I also wonder if Johnson might be pushing for early election. If his Brexit deal ends up being a practical disaster (which it could well be), he'll want to consolidate his authority again early to ensure a longer period in office, and his re-emphasis on "levelling up" coupled with the obsession early this year with voting ID suggests we might get a snap election before 2024... |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jul 30, 2021 22:38:23 GMT
Following Starmer's audience demonising the younger generation in that ghastly interview (accompanied by his nonchalant and possibly scripted agreement), I thought it'd be befitting to upload this video on here:
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Post by Bernard Marx on Aug 16, 2021 9:16:36 GMT
Renowned British film director Ken Loach has been expelled from the party- a testament to how Starmer's wing of the party have little respect for the writer or the artist and instead venerate the practise of business.
It is yet another own goal, however, because all this has done is encourage me to check out his filmography more broadly. I watched "I, Daniel Blake" the other day- a staggeringly realistic and hard-hitting depiction of the benefits system and the callous treatment of claimants across the board. As somebody who's dealt with similar treatment via PIP application, I can relate to the struggles depicted, and the film's large lack of diegetic music only serves to augment the realism at play.
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