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Post by burrunjor on Jul 18, 2021 15:37:21 GMT
Well?
I'm going to say The West Wing and Battlestar Gallactica.
One is a lot of pseudo intellectual bollocks that presents a sanitised view of American politics written by non political morons. The other is a dreary, boring, bland sci fi series about an unlikable smug cast of twats, with a stupid twist ending that makes no sense and is a rip off of an old (much better) episode of Space 1999.
I was so disappointed with Battlestar recently. I had heard such praise for it and it is absolute trash. Lucy Lawless herself can't liven it up. You know you're in trouble when that's the case. To be honest Lawless, Tricia Hefer and Gaius were the only decent actors in it. The lady President was the worst meanwhile. What do you expect when you have a no talent actress base her performance on one of the worst war mongers in human history.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 15:41:36 GMT
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 18, 2021 15:43:32 GMT
Doctor Who (2005-) LMAO obviously, but we all know that. I guess I should have put aside from DW 2005, or even just aside from the obvious and you'd know what I meant. PS DW 2005 until Matt Smith's last year is far superior to Battlestar Gallactica. At least now and again it was fun. |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 18, 2021 16:09:33 GMT
Oh I should stress that I only meant the 00s Battlestar. Never seen the original, though from what it's fans tell me the remake was to it, what New Who was to True Who. That's probably unfair to New Who 2005-13 and unfair to Battlestar being compared to New Who from 2014-present LOL.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 18, 2021 19:39:24 GMT
I'd also like to add Schitt's Creek. I don't get the fuss about it at all. I must have lasted about 4 episodes of it. Absolute f*cking shite.
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Post by Brian MK.II on Jul 18, 2021 19:52:30 GMT
Friends: It's alright but never understood the raving it gets.
Also the later era of Only Fools And Horses from 1989 onwards. Series 1-5 is great (although I might be in the minority that preferred Grandad to Uncle Albert as funny as he were) but as soon as Raquel and Canutesandra come in, it becomes really soapy and at times, dreary to watch although the finale is great. Less said about the Shitmas trilogy from 2001-03, the better although Roger Lloyd Pack was the best thing about that.
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Post by RobFilth on Jul 18, 2021 20:25:24 GMT
Overrated tv series?
"The Office"
"On the Buses" was better.
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Post by iank on Jul 18, 2021 21:24:13 GMT
I'd also like to add Schitt's Creek. I don't get the fuss about it at all. I must have lasted about 4 episodes of it. Absolute fokking shite. I've never even seen it. I'd say "Almost everything made today." I keep being told we're in a "golden age of television". If that's the case, why is there nothing left I watch? Literally the only thing I still watch is The Blacklist, which is average at best. Most of these modern shows are crass, dragged out, boring, with glossy production values clearly more important than writing or characters or entertainment, usually filled with not-even-hidden anti-white male propaganda to boot. Then again, maybe there are some tolerable ones, but who the f*ck would know since most of them are hidden behind firewalls on streaming services that I can't afford and have no intention of subscribing to even if I could. Between shite modern cinema and the graveyard that is the modern TV landscape, I've never seen pop culture in a worse state in my lifetime. It's basically dead to me at this point. |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 18, 2021 22:08:38 GMT
I'd also like to add Schitt's Creek. I don't get the fuss about it at all. I must have lasted about 4 episodes of it. Absolute fokking shite. I've never even seen it. I'd say "Almost everything made today." I keep being told we're in a "golden age of television". If that's the case, why is there nothing left I watch? Literally the only thing I still watch is The Blacklist, which is average at best. Most of these modern shows are crass, dragged out, boring, with glossy production values clearly more important than writing or characters or entertainment, usually filled with not-even-hidden anti-white male propaganda to boot. Then again, maybe there are some tolerable ones, but who the fokk would know since most of them are hidden behind firewalls on streaming services that I can't afford and have no intention of subscribing to even if I could. Between shite modern cinema and the graveyard that is the modern TV landscape, I've never seen pop culture in a worse state in my lifetime. It's basically dead to me at this point. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is absolutely hilarious. Schitt's Creek meanwhile feels like it's trying too hard to be like this, IE an edgy show with dark humour, but it's so f*cking twee and up its own arse. A show that I don't hate but feel is still overrated meanwhile is The Big Bang Theory. It's certainly watchable and enjoyable unlike Battlestar, and has a charismatic cast, but dear god can it get annoying and it relies on so many outdated cliches. To be fair though I forget that the older series are now about 15 years old. |
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Post by RobFilth on Jul 18, 2021 23:11:51 GMT
Apparently "The Fitzroy Crowd" is pretty much over rated, but I still haven't discovered which channel it's shown on yet to watch an episode and judge for myself.
Probably the usual American dross with canned laughter and a freeze frame ending of them all laughing whilst the end credits rush by too fast to read I guess..
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 19, 2021 7:41:54 GMT
Apparently "The Fitzroy Crowd" is pretty much over rated, but I still haven't discovered which channel it's shown on yet to watch an episode and judge for myself. Probably the usual American dross with canned laughter and a freeze frame ending of them all laughing whilst the end credits rush by too fast to read I guess.. It's okay for its first 7 or so seasons. It always had problems, IE trying too hard to be relevant and making cringy pop culture references. It also badly miscast some of its leads, like Eccelston who was supposed to be a fun, light hearted whimsical, yet serious, stern grandfatherly figure. Needless to say he just played the usual mopey Northerner he always plays. It's sense of humour was also too over the top and it also was a victim of its owns success with its writers getting too self indulgent and dismissing any criticism. It really lost its way in season 8 when they didn't know what audience they wanted and went all over the place. I hear it's still going but everyone says it's a caricature of its former self and should be canned. |
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Post by Brian MK.II on Jul 19, 2021 7:46:03 GMT
Apparently "The Fitzroy Crowd" is pretty much over rated, but I still haven't discovered which channel it's shown on yet to watch an episode and judge for myself. Probably the usual American dross with canned laughter and a freeze frame ending of them all laughing whilst the end credits rush by too fast to read I guess.. It's okay for its first 7 or so seasons. It always had problems, IE trying too hard to be relevant and making cringy pop culture references. It also badly miscast some of its leads, like Eccelston who was supposed to be a fun, light hearted whimsical, yet serious, stern grandfatherly figure. Needless to say he just played the usual mopey Northerner he always plays. It's sense of humour was also too over the top and it also was a victim of its owns success with its writers getting too self indulgent and dismissing any criticism. It really lost its way in season 8 when they didn't know what audience they wanted and went all over the place. I hear it's still going but everyone says it's a caricature of its former self and should be canned. I hear the behind the scenes were rife with problems too. Namely a myriad of cases of ''bending the knee and monkey posturing...'' |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 19, 2021 8:00:51 GMT
Another one I'm going to add is The Walking Dead.
It's pretty much like Battlestar Gallactica of horror, or at least suffers from a lot of the same problems.
It has far too many characters like Battlestar many of which are bland, unlikable and annoying. (Though none of them are as bad as the smug President, who was based on Hillary Clinton and Madeline Albright from Battlestar.)
Both also have an extremely limited premise that would work for a film, but not a tv series. Zombies are great for movies, one off stories, but in a tv environment they can only ever work as monsters of the week. They have no personalities like Vampires. You can't have Zombie cults, go into their history, show civil wars in the Zombie community, show how they view people like Buffy could with its Vamps. They are just mindless brutes. Also they can't play with others like Vamps, Demons or Werewolves or Witches. IE if you do a series about Vamps or Demons like Buffy and Supernatural, you don't have to have them be in every episode. You can vary it up a bit and have other supernatural creatures exist in their world, hell they can even be the main villains for a while. That's what kept Buffy fresh for 7 seasons and made the lore so much more interesting. It started so low key with just this little girl fighting Vampires, but then progressed to her battling gods and the first evil. Zombies however always have to have taken over the earth and therefore have to be the main focus.
The only other types of villains you can have are evil humans. IE criminals or some guy who has taken over a settlement and become a Caligula type ruler.
Similarly in Battlestar Gallactica, the makers were so pretentious, they insisted on there never being any aliens in it. It was to focus entirely onithe war with the Cylons. As a result all the show could be was just Cylons and humans fighting. No variety of stories, or villains no complex lore. Just the same villain week after week.
Also both of them have no idea where to go and therefore just go round and round in circles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 9:23:00 GMT
Lost, a great idea in the hands of lesser creators. They never knew what the future of the story was, and when people guessed the most likely answer they spent season upon season building up stuff and making it more and more convoluted till many stopped caring and then did the ending everyone had guessed years ago. What a waste of time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 10:21:06 GMT
I'd also like to add Schitt's Creek. I don't get the fuss about it at all. I must have lasted about 4 episodes of it. Absolute fokking shite. I've never even seen it. I'd say "Almost everything made today." I keep being told we're in a "golden age of television". If that's the case, why is there nothing left I watch? Literally the only thing I still watch is The Blacklist, which is average at best. Most of these modern shows are crass, dragged out, boring, with glossy production values clearly more important than writing or characters or entertainment, usually filled with not-even-hidden anti-white male propaganda to boot. Then again, maybe there are some tolerable ones, but who the fokk would know since most of them are hidden behind firewalls on streaming services that I can't afford and have no intention of subscribing to even if I could. Between shite modern cinema and the graveyard that is the modern TV landscape, I've never seen pop culture in a worse state in my lifetime. It's basically dead to me at this point. The only streaming site I use is BritBox, but then that's only for old school classics such as Who, Blake's 7 and 80s Eastenders and Casualty. It also has stuff like Press Gang and Children's Ward too. I only use Netflix for Cobra Kai (which is one of the best shows ever to be fair) but I can't stomach all the other dross. I like how things were made thirty odd years ago. Some might say I'm stuck in the past, but I prefer OB cameras to HD ones and I just prefer the feel of older television. |
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