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Post by mott1 on Jul 21, 2021 12:34:09 GMT
Killing Eve. Hideous, badly-plotted TV that thinks having hideous psychopathic female characters with fluid sexualities is somehow progressive or daring.
How Waller-Bridge has become such a sought after writer is a mystery...
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 21, 2021 13:07:37 GMT
Friends: It's alright but never understood the raving it gets. Also the later era of Only Fools And Horses from 1989 onwards. Series 1-5 is great (although I might be in the minority that preferred Grandad to Uncle Albert as funny as he were) but as soon as Raquel and Canutesandra come in, it becomes really soapy and at times, dreary to watch although the finale is great. Less said about the Shitmas trilogy from 2001-03, the better although Roger Lloyd Pack was the best thing about that. I must confess I do love Friends, but I can see how the hype drives people away. I think when you do strip that away, it does hold up though. Ross is by far the funniest. From his tan, to his flirting, to his attempts to be macho, to his teeth, he's such a f*cking plonker, but that's what makes him so funny LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 13:44:14 GMT
I'm not so keen on Friends either. I've watched a handful of episodes with my sister and I couldn't get into it. It's not one of my favourite sitcoms.
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Post by mott1 on Jul 21, 2021 21:31:35 GMT
I'm not so keen on Friends either. I've watched a handful of episodes with my sister and I couldn't get into it. It's not one of my favourite sitcoms. Agreed. Until I saw Seinfeld I used to agree Friends was the best sitcom of its era (which had some good competition) but since seeing the former series it's clear to me which is sharper, punchier, better-observed and completely lacking in the whooping and mawkish sentimentality of US comedies. But I agree with Burun that Ross is the funniest character in Friends. As important to it as Rodney in OFAH (which should have ended with Time On Their Hands).
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Post by iank on Jul 21, 2021 22:11:49 GMT
I like Friends, but Seinfeld, Newsradio and That 70s Show are all better and funnier.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 21, 2021 23:27:07 GMT
I'm not so keen on Friends either. I've watched a handful of episodes with my sister and I couldn't get into it. It's not one of my favourite sitcoms. Agreed. Until I saw Seinfeld I used to agree Friends was the best sitcom of its era (which had some good competition) but since seeing the former series it's clear to me which is sharper, punchier, better-observed and completely lacking in the whooping and mawkish sentimentality of US comedies. But I agree with Burun that Ross is the funniest character in Friends. As important to it as Rodney in OFAH (which should have ended with Time On Their Hands). If you don't like sentimentality of US sitcoms, you have to, HAVE to check out It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. It's like Seinfeld on crack. It actually manages to be more f*cked up, callous and put its characters through more suffering than most British sitcoms LOL. Check this out. Now compare that to a bit from The Big Bang Theory We need a puking emoji LOL.
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Post by mistressrani on Jul 28, 2021 16:03:08 GMT
Friends - not remotely funny. Primeval - devoid of acting talent (OK so it wasn't rated highly but even that is too high).
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Post by Brian MK.II on Sept 6, 2021 16:00:41 GMT
Vicar Of Dibley. Could never stand Dawn French personally. Give me the lads on Craggy Island any day of the week.
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Post by mott1 on Sept 6, 2021 20:16:41 GMT
I like Friends, but Seinfeld, Newsradio and That 70s Show are all better and funnier. What's Newsradio about/like, Ian? Finding a good new sitcom these days - particularly in England - is like finding a witty line in Mrs Brown's Boys!
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Post by iank on Sept 6, 2021 20:52:35 GMT
It's a US comedy that ran for 5 seasons from 95-99. It's an ensemble comedy set in a New York radio station with Dave Foley, Stephen Root, Maura Tierney, Joe Rogan and the great Phil Hartman. The fifth season kinda sucks because it's just not the same after Phil Hartman's death but the first four are absolute comedy gold. Very much recommended by me.
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Sept 6, 2021 22:42:40 GMT
f*cking Broadchurch, which bizarrely enough was touted as justification for giving Chinballs the NuWho gig back when he was announced. People raved about it at the time, which utterly perplexes me. It was some of the most soporifically dull shite I've ever tried and failed to sit through.
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Post by iank on Sept 6, 2021 23:37:32 GMT
fokking Broadchurch, which bizarrely enough was touted as justification for giving Chinballs the NuWho gig back when he was announced. People raved about it at the time, which utterly perplexes me. It was some of the most soporifically dull shite I've ever tried and failed to sit through. It's literally one of the worst constructed murder mysteries I've ever seen. Every episode of season 1 was 50% soap with the grieving family, and 50% with the cops targeting one particular suspect, who would inevitably turn out to be not guilty because it's not the end of the season yet. I gave up halfway through. I love murder mysteries. That's not how you construct a murder mystery.
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Sept 7, 2021 1:33:59 GMT
It's literally one of the worst constructed murder mysteries I've ever seen. Every episode of season 1 was 50% soap with the grieving family, and 50% with the cops targeting one particular suspect, who would inevitably turn out to be not guilty because it's not the end of the season yet. I gave up halfway through. I love murder mysteries. That's not how you construct a murder mystery. Everything he's ever done has been poorly constructed hackery. It's always baffled me that a common line even among Chibnall's critics is that he's too workmanlike; competent and professional but unimaginative. I don't think he's competent or professional at all. I was so shocked by NuWho Series 11 not just because it was bad by the standards of what's supposed to be an imaginative, high-concept sci-fi show, but because it was bad by the standards of EastEnders or Hollyoaks. The basic stuff - reasonably fluent dialogue, character development that makes sense and has some semblance of continuity, the ability to construct a simplistic, rudimentary plot without gaping, chasmic plotholes... his work is woefully deficient in all of these respects. He's without a doubt the worst writer I've ever come across. I truly, truly believe that the average British primary school kid could do better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 7:53:21 GMT
The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. This is more hind sight based but sometimes things are not meant to go on years, especially when no true end goal is properly mapped out. True they were based on existing properties, unlike lost, but they quickly developed into their own thing and could not maintain their momentum. Like Lost you end up with a property that exists because it’s profitable not because it has a story to tell.
To clarify I never watched GoT but it was so talked about that it’s rise and fall were easy to follow. I stopped watching TWD because it just became boring.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 7, 2021 8:28:38 GMT
The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. This is more hind sight based but sometimes things are not meant to go on years, especially when no true end goal is properly mapped out. True they were based on existing properties, unlike lost, but they quickly developed into their own thing and could not maintain their momentum. Like Lost you end up with a property that exists because it’s profitable not because it has a story to tell. To clarify I never watched GoT but it was so talked about that it’s rise and fall were easy to follow. I stopped watching TWD because it just became boring. Yeah, both fell victim to the "Lost" disease of being unsure how to actually end courtesy of not being planned out in advance, only to completely bollocks themselves up by the finale. That said, I never liked Lost to begin with. Game of Thrones had a very solid first half, tumbled after that only to briefly improve again, declined again afterwards, and then completely shat the bed by its final four episodes. One only need look at how the world-building and dialogue plummets before you even look at the downfall of the actual narrative. Walking Dead was always a bit crap, and always overshadowed by meandering plotting and dull moments, but there was some degree of consistent world-building early on, albeit characterised by poor characterisation and narrative convenience for the bulk of it. I watched it with the family and would have probably stopped completely after season 5, though they ploughed on with it, only to stop with season 7. Every f.ucking episode was the same vapid and meandering bollocks. Negan mugs at the camera and behaves like a prat, the core characters wonder aimlessly, rinse and repeat for 16 sodding weeks. It also developed this odd aversion from killing off any of its main characters by that point, resulting in absolutely no tension whatsoever.
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