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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 7, 2021 8:35:46 GMT
fokking Broadchurch, which bizarrely enough was touted as justification for giving Chinballs the NuWho gig back when he was announced. People raved about it at the time, which utterly perplexes me. It was some of the most soporifically dull shite I've ever tried and failed to sit through. Yep, it's one of the most piss-poor crime dramas I've ever seen. How can you make a series *that* mundane and that tension-free? I never watched the second series, but it was uniformly regarded as worse, so I dread to imagine how crap that was. It's got absolutely nothing on something like Mindhunter or Happy Valley, put it that way. No intrigue and no psychological tension whatsoever, with each character serving as a Chibnall soap opera cypher. I'd only seen Jodie Whittaker in Broadchurch and Black Mirror prior to her Who work (I love Black Mirror, but she was hardly a standout in it), and even going beyond the culture war bollocks and identitarian posturing that emerged from her casting, my misgivings were affirmed immediately, because I knew she'd struggle with a role that deviated from that of an "ordinary" one, as with her predecessors from the RTD era but amplified to a greater degree. It was obvious at that stage that Chibnall cast her purely because of her Broadchurch appearance and little else, and given how little Broadchurch has in common with Doctor Who at its core, this said all one needed to know. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 7, 2021 8:43:38 GMT
Vicar Of Dibley. Could never stand Dawn French personally. Give me the lads on Craggy Island any day of the week. I don't mind it, but Father Ted outclasses it in every way. This always has me pissing myself: |
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Post by mott1 on Sept 7, 2021 9:54:13 GMT
fokking Broadchurch, which bizarrely enough was touted as justification for giving Chinballs the NuWho gig back when he was announced. People raved about it at the time, which utterly perplexes me. It was some of the most soporifically dull shite I've ever tried and failed to sit through. It's literally one of the worst constructed murder mysteries I've ever seen. Every episode of season 1 was 50% soap with the grieving family, and 50% with the cops targeting one particular suspect, who would inevitably turn out to be not guilty because it's not the end of the season yet. I gave up halfway through. I love murder mysteries. That's not how you construct a murder mystery. And the scary thing is that was the best (1st) season! The other thing I took from Broadchurch was how quickly Tennant, well known for hamming it up in Nu Who and stuff like Good Omens, equally ends up phoning it in when he's bored. (Its the same in his political/mystery output too). |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 7, 2021 14:51:11 GMT
It's literally one of the worst constructed murder mysteries I've ever seen. Every episode of season 1 was 50% soap with the grieving family, and 50% with the cops targeting one particular suspect, who would inevitably turn out to be not guilty because it's not the end of the season yet. I gave up halfway through. I love murder mysteries. That's not how you construct a murder mystery. And the scary thing is that was the best (1st) season! The other thing I took from Broadchurch was how quickly Tennant, well known for hamming it up in Nu Who and stuff like Good Omens, equally ends up phoning it in when he's bored. (Its the same in his political/mystery output too). It's usually the same variant for either his hammy or underplayed roles as well. His performance in Casanova, Doctor Who and even Harry Potter (as brief as his appearance was in that) all have the same gurning undertones, whilst his performance in Broadchurch wasn't much different from his portrayal in the massively disappointing "Deadwater Fell". I don't mind Tennant as a person by any means- he comes across as amiable in interviews and very easy to get on with, but his range is definitely limited. Even in Good Omens, it's obvious how much better an actor and how much more of a natural eccentric Michael Sheen is in comparison. |
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 10, 2021 13:34:45 GMT
I disagree with Rob about the Office being shit as much as I do with Rani about Primeval being shit. (Which is a LOT in both cases. I'm actually going to have another rewatch of Primeval soon. No matter how many times I've seen it, it's still brilliant. I just finished a rewatch of the Office and it is still absolutely hysterical.)
In honour of Channel 4's diversity day where they are showing nothing but tv shows starring black people. (A move so patronising and cringe inducing it might as well have been dreamed up by Brent.) Let us celebrate a true pioneer for race relations.
An unsung genius David Brent.
Also anyone remember RTD's comments about Primeval being racist? What a weasly way to try and undermine your rival. I liked the response of "they never filmed in a human rights hell hole like Dubai, so that balances out the political correctness Rusty." I think Douglas Henshall and Jason Flemying not getting their dicks out also helps to balance things out LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 20:21:40 GMT
Love Island. Everyone goes on about it. I've never seen it, but it seems quite shallow and superficial from what I've heard.
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Post by iank on Sept 10, 2021 21:21:22 GMT
Smack Talk did a vid on it on YouTube. It looks beyond ghastly.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 11, 2021 9:23:39 GMT
Love Island. Everyone goes on about it. I've never seen it, but it seems quite shallow and superficial from what I've heard. Probably the biggest pile of shite ever devised for the televisual medium. It has absolutely nothing going for it whatsoever, and is the epitome of vapid and cynical reality television made purely with the f.uckwit in mind. It's the sort of TV that depletes your intelligence as soon as you fester your eyes upon it. That said, it's tragically a good insight into the more depraved and depressing elements of contemporary society, purely on the grounds that people are actually entertained by it alone. |
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Post by Brian MK.II on Sept 11, 2021 12:18:22 GMT
Love Island. Everyone goes on about it. I've never seen it, but it seems quite shallow and superficial from what I've heard. Probably the biggest pile of shite ever devised for the televisual medium. It has absolutely nothing going for it whatsoever, and is the epitome of vapid and cynical reality television made purely with the f.uckwit in mind. It's the sort of TV that depletes your intelligence as soon as you fester your eyes upon it. That said, it's tragically a good insight into the more depraved and depressing elements of contemporary society, purely on the grounds that people are actually entertained by it alone. In the vein of Eccleston on the AOL/WW3 set: WHO GREENLIGHTS THIS SHIT?! |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 11, 2021 12:24:49 GMT
Probably the biggest pile of shite ever devised for the televisual medium. It has absolutely nothing going for it whatsoever, and is the epitome of vapid and cynical reality television made purely with the f.uckwit in mind. It's the sort of TV that depletes your intelligence as soon as you fester your eyes upon it. That said, it's tragically a good insight into the more depraved and depressing elements of contemporary society, purely on the grounds that people are actually entertained by it alone. In the vein of Eccleston on the AOL/WW3 set: WHO GREENLIGHTS THIS SHIT?! F.ucking hell, and people get enjoyment out of this shit, or worse, identify with it. I know plenty of people in real life who watch this rubbish. I'm unsure how many are consciously aware how bad it is, but I really bloody hope it's the majority. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 13:24:10 GMT
How can anyone identify with such vacuous people? Then again, I shouldn't be too surprised in this day and age.
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Post by Monster X on Sept 12, 2021 9:35:44 GMT
The X Files
I know it was (and still is) hugely popular, but I just couldn't get into the show, no matter how much I tried. I found Anderson and Duchovny a bit charmless and unappealing & I have little interest in Sci-Fi based on conspiracy theories and shadowy organisations/secrets. In general, '90s TV SF/Fantasy really wasn't my thing.
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Post by mott1 on Sept 13, 2021 9:47:39 GMT
The X FilesI know it was (and still is) hugely popular, but I just couldn't get into the show, no matter how much I tried. I found Anderson and Duchovny a bit charmless and unappealing & I have little interest in Sci-Fi based on conspiracy theories and shadowy organisations/secrets. In general, '90s TV SF/Fantasy really wasn't my thing. I'm glad you brought this up. Did you see the comeback series of X Files - Its tonal whiplash was beyond even Nu Who, which is almost impossible! Look at 'Founders Mutation' followed by 'Were-monster'... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2021 10:41:16 GMT
The X FilesI know it was (and still is) hugely popular, but I just couldn't get into the show, no matter how much I tried. I found Anderson and Duchovny a bit charmless and unappealing & I have little interest in Sci-Fi based on conspiracy theories and shadowy organisations/secrets. In general, '90s TV SF/Fantasy really wasn't my thing. I watched a few of the early seasons a few years back as well as when it was in in the 90s. I stopped after a while though as it felt like it was following the same formula as many other shows but as I would learn later with the big problem being that the entire show revolves around a conspiracy none had the answers to. Worse they would retcon and change things to the point that earliest season plot lines seem nonsensical or pointless. As iank pointed out in his reviews, these days it’s the stand alone episodes that are more interesting as they are not bog down by the shows law to much. |
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Post by iank on Sept 13, 2021 20:53:57 GMT
To be fair, the initial conspiracy plot does ultimately come together and make sense and reach a satisfactory conclusion of sorts in season 6. The problem, of course, is a) that the show went on and on and on, and b) they had no way to resolve the major threat behind that initial conspiracy - that an alien invasion is imminent - and then start retconning and making shit up as they go to try and get out of the hole they've dug for themselves.
For the sake of artistic integrity, it might have actually been better to end with season 6 and just have a bleak ending where the aliens win!
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