Future of Red Dwarf

[burrunjor]

Sept 4, 2024 21:58:14 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

Love Rimmerworld. I can see why some don't like Emohawk, but production wise it's one of the best of the series. The GELF village looks great. That's a pretty rare night shoot for the BBC series. I don't recall there being too many of those apart from Back to Reality and Tikka to Ride.

Now that you mention it that is unusual for the BBC. Being Human for instance had to cut out vampires being vulnerable to sunlight as it would have meant filming at night all the time that would have been too expensive.

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

Sept 4, 2024 22:06:30 GMT burrunjor said:

Sept 4, 2024 21:58:14 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

Love Rimmerworld. I can see why some don't like Emohawk, but production wise it's one of the best of the series. The GELF village looks great. That's a pretty rare night shoot for the BBC series. I don't recall there being too many of those apart from Back to Reality and Tikka to Ride.

Now that you mention it that is unusual for the BBC. Being Human for instance had to cut out vampires being vulnerable to sunlight as it would have meant filming at night all the time that would have been too expensive.

It didn't happen much in 80s Who. Either most of the scenes set at night were studio bound or they did day for night shoots. Delta and Ultimate Foe have genuine night scenes and Fenric too, but I'm unsure about the rest.

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

And it's odd because two of those stories were made during a period that was constantly berated for looking cheap.

[rushy]

I rewatched Out of Time. It's not an episode that really does anything for me. Half of it meanders around a vaguely amusing joke about Kryten confusing Lister for an android, then there's a lot of padding where Kryten is constantly crying about Lister's fate (which is entirely inconsequential). You can really tell they made the script up as they went along.

I do like the idea of their future selves being corrupt, but they get less than ten minutes of development. We don't even see Future Lister's personality all that much (you'd think being a brain in a jar would affect him somehow). The only future version I really liked was Rimmer, because of how sociopathic Barrie made him.

And the climax of course is quite iconic. But apart from that, it's kind of a mess.

One thing I find extremely funny is that people keep going on about Tikka to Ride not making any sense because this episode establishes the time drive cannot move Starburg physically through space... even though the future crew obviously found a way because the entire premise of this episode is that they returned to Earth and became corrupt.

[Kimbergoth]

Jul 27, 2024 16:27:33 GMT rushy said:

Now that we know we're getting a three-part miniseries in 2025, what do you guys think the story could be? What would you like it to be? 

And what are your thoughts on Rob Grant's attempts to get a prequel off the ground? 

Ooh, Red Dwarf! Love me some sci-fi comedy. As for the story, I'd love to see them go full meta and have the crew stumble into alternate universes where they meet different versions of themselves. Could be hilarious seeing Cat interact with his parallel selves! 😂 And hey, maybe they'll discover a goth dimension and recruit me as a new crew member. Kimbergoth, the space vixen! 😈

As for Rob Grant's prequel, I say bring it on! More Red Dwarf is always a good thing. But I hope they don't retcon too much - gotta preserve the classics!

[rushy]

I watched Tikka to Ride as well.

It's a pity about Lister's weird characterisation and the lack of a laugh track, because otherwise it's a really well put together episode. The single-camera format, new set design and location filming give it a very cinematic vibe. I also never noticed before that they actually explain why the crew can't use the time drive to return home.

I wonder why they shot that extra bit at the end. With the crew seemingly abandoning Lister to his curries, it almost feels like a finale.

Standout moments include the cannibalism sequence and Rimmer's "He won't let me court martial him! Not even when I ask him nicely!"

[rushy]

I suppose it doesn't make sense that Kennedy would be able to kill himself when the crew couldn't destroy their past selves, but who cares

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

Sept 9, 2024 20:25:24 GMT rushy said:

I watched Tikka to Ride as well.

It's a pity about Lister's weird characterisation and the lack of a laugh track, because otherwise it's a really well put together episode. The single-camera format, new set design and location filming give it a very cinematic vibe. I also never noticed before that they actually explain why the crew can't use the time drive to return home.

I wonder why they shot that extra bit at the end. With the crew seemingly abandoning Lister to his curries, it almost feels like a finale.

Standout moments include the cannibalism sequence and Rimmer's "He won't let me court martial him! Not even when I ask him nicely!"

The extended version is the only one I watch now. It adds so much to an already great episode. 

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

If you have them, I'd recommend watching the extended versions of Ouroboros and Duct Soup as well. The latter has some great conversations that got cut out of the TV version.

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

I never understood why Lister hated pasta. I would have forgotten all about curry and had pasta salads every night. A nice portion of pasta mixed with baby plum tomatoes, red onion, jalapeños, cheese cubes, a raddish and diced pork sausage all smeared with red repper houmous.

[rushy]

Sept 11, 2024 11:17:52 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

I never understood why Lister hated pasta. I would have forgotten all about curry and had pasta salads every night. A nice portion of pasta mixed with baby plum tomatoes, red onion, jalapeños, cheese cubes, a raddish and diced pork sausage all smeared with red repper houmous.

According to the deleted scenes, it's a class thing. "Pasta is for people who have mats on the floor!"

[rushy]

Is it just me or did they reuse the Brain of Morbius prop for Lister's brain in "Out of Time"? The container is different, but the brain looks identical and even lights up in the same way.

[iank]

Sept 11, 2024 14:21:36 GMT rushy said:

Sept 11, 2024 11:17:52 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

I never understood why Lister hated pasta. I would have forgotten all about curry and had pasta salads every night. A nice portion of pasta mixed with baby plum tomatoes, red onion, jalapeños, cheese cubes, a raddish and diced pork sausage all smeared with red repper houmous.

According to the deleted scenes, it's a class thing. "Pasta is for people who have mats on the floor!"

Same as with yoghurt lol

[rushy]

difference is that yoghurt is genuinely disgusting

[Cherry Pepsi Maxil]

Sept 11, 2024 15:11:10 GMT rushy said:

difference is that yoghurt is genuinely disgusting

Not unless it's a Milky Bar flavoured yoghurt.