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Post by Bernard Marx on May 26, 2024 12:46:19 GMT
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Post by ClockworkOcean on May 26, 2024 14:10:11 GMT
Polly Toynbee is another one. She's spent the last four years trying to reinvent herself as some kind of anti-Tory firebrand, as if she didn't spend the preceding five doing everything in her power to prevent a Labour victory.
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Post by Bernard Marx on May 26, 2024 14:15:24 GMT
Polly Toynbee is another one. She's spent the last four years trying to reinvent herself as some kind of anti-Tory firebrand, as if she didn't spend the preceding five doing everything in her power to prevent a Labour victory. Toynbee hasn't written for this election yet, has she? I can see her coming out with pro-Starmer apologia in due time. It's worth remembering that she participated in the Labour/SDP split which played a part in handing Thatcher the 1983 election.
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Post by Bernard Marx on May 30, 2024 10:00:12 GMT
Abusive arch-Blairite and Israel Lobbyist Luke Akehurst is now the Labour candidate for North Durham.
He's so crap that he lost a councillor seat to the Greens in Oxford three years ago. I hope he gets an unflattering surprise on July 5th.
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Jun 7, 2024 20:30:57 GMT
Just caught the tail end of the BBC debate. I don't think I've ever heard a pitch less inspiring than the one Penny Mordaunt just gave. The mask has finally slipped. In their desperation to cling on to their base, the Tories are no longer even pretending to have anything to offer anyone who isn't a pensioner and/or extremely wealthy. Gone is any hint of Johnson's populist appeal or May's faux-compassion for the "just about managing". Protecting pensions and cutting taxes were the only things she mentioned. That was the entire pitch. It would seem that they've entirely given up on appealing to the red wall vote now that Farage is back in the game.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 7, 2024 21:07:35 GMT
Just caught the tail end of the BBC debate. I don't think I've ever heard a pitch less inspiring than the one Penny Mordaunt just gave. The mask has finally slipped. In their desperation to cling on to their base, the Tories are no longer even pretending to have anything to offer anyone who isn't a pensioner and/or extremely wealthy. Gone is any hint of Johnson's populist appeal or May's faux-compassion for the "just about managing". Protecting pensions and cutting taxes were the only things she mentioned. That was the entire pitch. It would seem that they've entirely given up on appealing to the red wall vote now that Farage is back in the game. The polls and commentariat are laughably over-egging the size of a Starmer landslide, but an unprecedentedly bad Tory defeat is completely inevitable at this point. I’ll accept it, so long as certain Labour MPs (Akehurst, Philips, Debbonaire and Streeting specifically) wake up with a nasty surprise. I thought the SNP were the least shit of the debaters tonight, with Plaid closely behind. The Greens were OK but barely managed to make themselves known, the Lib Dems were as placid as expected, Farage was an absolute twat, and the Blue and Red Tory parties were ghastly. Leaving Mordaunt aside, Rayner was about as robotic as it got, blindly citing Starmer’s hymn sheet all the way. Incidentally, where’s the Workers Party? Why aren’t they allowed to appear? Unlike Reform, they at least had an elected MP…
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jun 7, 2024 21:55:41 GMT
Wouldn't you just love to see this pampered, weedy little imp of a man on the battlefield? Yes. Strewn all over it...
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Post by Ludders II on Jun 8, 2024 2:17:08 GMT
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Jun 14, 2024 0:41:24 GMT
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Post by Ludders II on Jun 14, 2024 15:32:11 GMT
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Jun 16, 2024 16:22:55 GMT
Now that the candidates have been confirmed, I've reached the conclusion that I'll have to vote Labour on a lesser of two evils basis. Even though it would only have been a symbolic gesture of support, I still would have voted for any Workers Party candidate who stood in my constituency, but none were available. All polling suggests that my constituency is a two-horse race between Labour and the Lib Dems with a swing of only ~2000 votes needed to jettison my incumbent Lib Dem MP, whom I absolutely despise. The recent boundary changes have meant losing a few of the rich areas that used to make this a Lib Dem safe seat and gaining some working class areas from the Labour safe seat next door. While I could never bring myself to vote for a piece of shit like Luke Akehurst, my Labour candidate seems like a decent young chap with solid trade union credentials.
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Post by Ludders II on Jun 16, 2024 16:56:12 GMT
Now that the candidates have been confirmed, I've reached the conclusion that I'll have to vote Labour on a lesser of two evils basis. Even though it would only have been a symbolic gesture of support, I still would have voted for any Workers Party candidate who stood in my constituency, but none were available. All polling suggests that my constituency is a two-horse race between Labour and the Lib Dems with a swing of only ~2000 votes needed to jettison my incumbent Lib Dem MP, whom I absolutely despise. The recent boundary changes have meant losing a few of the rich areas that used to make this a Lib Dem safe seat and gaining some working class areas from the Labour safe seat next door. While I could never bring myself to vote for a piece of shit like Luke Akehurst, my Labour candidate seems like a decent young chap with solid trade union credentials. With local politics, sometimes you have to vote for the MP, not the party. My local Labour mp used to be Chris Leslie who was always having a go at Corbyn until he left the party to join Change UK. (Chukka, where are you now?) Needless to say, I never voted for Leslie except for when Corbyn was leader. I haven't looked into the current Labour candidate, by it's always been a safe Labour seat anyway.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 17, 2024 12:17:19 GMT
Abusive arch-Blairite and Israel Lobbyist Luke Akehurst is now the Labour candidate for North Durham. Turns out that a relative of mine, of all people, has gone down there to campaign for him. I f ucking hope he doesn't win this seat. As Galloway amusingly put it in the WP video on North Durham (in which he couldn't speak Akehurst's name out of disgust), he's the most hated Labour candidate in the country and probably "wouldn't be able to find it [Durham] without his Bradbury's Train Manual". It'd be nice to see Jess Philips and Wes Streeting lose their seats too, if unlikely. Streeting is a definite possibility given that he's nowhere to be seen on the ground, and I'd love to see Starmer without a Health Secretary despite winning a majority. As for those of you who are voting Labour tactically- even if I lived in a constituency which fell under that category, I honestly couldn't bring myself to do that. Even the Lib Dems are preferable, given that their manifesto is demonstrably less crap, and I can't bring myself to vote for a party which repeatedly lauds Thatcher as a political pioneer and cheerleads war crimes. It would simply give credibility to Cameron's decade-old claim (and Mandelson's, if one wants to go back that far) that "We are all Thatcherites now". Perhaps I'd be thinking differently were I based elsewhere in the country, but given my incongruent political positions within a highly right-wing local electorate, who knows? The two-party duopoly is the most depressing stranglehold on British politics. The only way it could be bent this election is if, for example, Labour achieves 25% of the vote and the Tories achieve 21%, with most of the electorate voting elsewhere and giving alternatives huge space. Only such an outcome would seriously f uck over both parties. However, knowing my political luck, this election will cause the biggest Labour landslide since time immemorial, solidifying Starmer's status as the most powerful Labour Leader in history. And any political space left for dissent will likely be absorbed by the repugnant Farage-led Reform UK- promoted and artificially inflated by a shameless press- instead of the worthwhile alternatives.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 17, 2024 12:45:26 GMT
My local Labour mp used to be Chris Leslie who was always having a go at Corbyn until he left the party to join Change UK. (Chukka, where are you now?) Ah, yes. The "sensible" and "moderate" Change UK which achieved an approximate total of 10,000 votes across the whole f ucking country in 2019. Even the Irish Communist Party got more votes than that in 1987! It's sad that the same serial failures who embraced that embarrassing "political party" are supposedly going to come to unbridled prominence again after inheriting a media-backed Starmer-led Labour Party predicted to win a landslide. Evidently, shit floats.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 17, 2024 13:03:21 GMT
Even though it would only have been a symbolic gesture of support, I still would have voted for any Workers Party candidate who stood in my constituency, but none were available. Understandable. Me too. probably. Whatever my occasional and specific differences with them, the WP are the best on economic and foreign policy by miles (I was impressed with their manifesto), and they're the only left alternatives willing to take on their opponents head on. As futile as it may be, I hope they take Birmingham Yardley from Labour. Corbyn and the Greens might be more amicable, but they're comparatively hopeless at waging a fightback and make constant concessions. I have a Green candidate standing in my constituency, but they're even younger than I am and have no fundamental political experience whatsoever. I'm torn on whether to vote for them as the true lesser of all evils or whether to tactically vote for the Liberal Democrat candidate- who, to his credit, isn't holding back when it comes to shaming my Tory MP in his campaign leaflets. The Lib Dems are preferable to Labour as it is, so I'm in something of a quandary.
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