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Post by burrunjor on Dec 30, 2023 10:45:11 GMT
"this had the added task of introducing a new Doctor and companion so the plot was fairly thin." Yet they were fine knocking it out of the park with Spearhead back in 1970. It was thin back then too tbf. Not nearly as much, but still. Spearhead has no depth to it at all Sorry I don't think this story is comparable to Spearhead in Space at all. twitter.com/i/status/1739373391562375401 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 10:56:06 GMT
It was thin back then too tbf. Not nearly as much, but still. Spearhead has no depth to it at all Sorry I don't think this story is comparable to Spearhead in Space at all. twitter.com/i/status/1739373391562375401We all know if JNT had done this back in the 1980s people would have used the clip in those crappy panel shows to back up their agenda that the show was awful during that time. The people praising Ncuti's Cbeebies sing along would have probably crapped all over it as well. Complete insanity. |
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 30, 2023 11:06:04 GMT
We all know if JNT had done this back in the 1980s people would have used the clip in those crappy panel shows to back up their agenda that the show was awful during that time. The people praising Ncuti's Cbeebies sing along would have probably crapped all over it as well. Complete insanity. Indeed that's why I will always stick the knife into panel show c*nts whenever I can. They more than anyone dumbed down the entertainment industry. Their legacy is Bo Jo as Mayor of London, the death of true, even handed satire, the death of imaginative television that's unashamedly itself, and undermining outsiders within the industry getting ahead through both their cliqueness and crushing anyone who is outside their bubble from Amy Winehouse to f*cking JNT himself! It's f*cking tragic in tv terms that a poignant, thoughtful. frightening, imaginative piece of vampire fiction like Curse of Fenric could be used as a sign that the show was an old relic and needed put out to pasture, whilst an unimaginative, idiotic, childish, painfully out of touch piece of crap like this that rips off Labryinth, thinks gay characters should still be portrayed as mincing about in gay discos and has characters say Diddly as though that's still a modern trendy reference is pushed by the mainstream media as a successful reinvention. Then again the the same was true when it was farting aliens, and fat people jokes in the Eccelston era. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 11:06:15 GMT
"Christmas stories aren't usually classics" @rani I don't think that's an excuse. Some of the most iconic and best OFAH episodes are Christmas specials. I don't think the Goblin song will feature in "Britain's greatest Christmas TV moments" alongside Rodney and Del as Batman and Robin  |
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 30, 2023 11:08:53 GMT
"Christmas stories aren't usually classics" @rani I don't think that's an excuse. Some of the most iconic and best OFAH episodes are Christmas specials. I don't think the Goblin song will feature in "Britain's greatest Christmas TV moments" alongside Rodney and Del as Batman and Robin Also if Christmas specials aren't a good idea, why does RTD insist on doing them then? PS he doesn't need to make them Christmas specials. He could just do a longer story. Also I have enjoyed some of New Who's Christmas specials. Next Doctor is brilliant. Don't tell me that Cybermen in Victorian London and David Morrisey wasn't better than Diddly songs. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2023 11:11:10 GMT
"Christmas stories aren't usually classics" @rani I don't think that's an excuse. Some of the most iconic and best OFAH episodes are Christmas specials. I don't think the Goblin song will feature in "Britain's greatest Christmas TV moments" alongside Rodney and Del as Batman and Robin Also if Christmas specials aren't a good idea, why does RTD insist on doing them then? PS he doesn't need to make them Christmas specials. He could just do a longer story. Also I have enjoyed some of New Who's Christmas specials. Next Doctor is brilliant. Don't tell me that Cybermen in Victorian London and David Morrisey wasn't better than Diddly songs. No, it absolutely was. As stupid as it was with the Cyber King, the idea of the Cybermen in Victorian London at Christmas with the intrigue of a possible future Doctor (at the time we had no clue. I don't think Smith had been cast yet) was far superior and remains the most interesting of all of his Christmas specials. |
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 30, 2023 11:22:23 GMT
Again let's really shame Panel show c*nts.
The show in decline, when saying you liked it was embarrassing and it needed put out of its misery.
That's what these panel show comedians whose opinions we all value in fandom to the point where we have to support ANYTHING that would stop them making fun of us claimed.
Meanwhile the successful reinvention that only bigots and gammons would hate, that the panel show wankers arse lick.
All I can say is Paul Merton, Jimmy Carr, Frankie Boyle, Graham Norton, Eddie Izzard go f*ck yourselves. THIS is your legacy to entertainment, far more than you lame comedy will ever be. Only consolation is that the things you decreed a joke will be remembered long after you've been relegated to the pathetic foot notes you all are. Still it's annoying that you were able to help f*ck up tv and entertainment for decades and that many people like JNT went to their graves believing your nasty, shallow, jump on the bandwagon lies.
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Post by mott1 on Dec 30, 2023 11:44:15 GMT
Good point well made, Burrun. It's always interesting how those that slag stuff off often go on to put their own (inferior) version of it out later!
Perhaps RTD should declare the entire Ncuti era Xmas specials, to deflect the embarrassingly little media criticism the show gets.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Dec 30, 2023 14:55:44 GMT
Season 1 Teaser? Amazing how different Hartnell looks now it's in colour! If it's referring to the new show then the only way they could 'tease' me is by having a continuity announcer solemnly declaring the show has been binned, once and for all... So, it was true all along. How's he going to be "racist" now..? I see no need for "solemnity". I'm all for an "after-party". Hopefully, one that lasts for about 20 years... |
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Post by burrunjor on Dec 30, 2023 15:18:16 GMT
Good point well made, Burrun. It's always interesting how those that slag stuff off often go on to put their own (inferior) version of it out later! Perhaps RTD should declare the entire Ncuti era Xmas specials, to deflect the embarrassingly little media criticism the show gets.  Elitist 80s fanboys who appeared on radio shows and things like point of view to trash and stick the knife into JNT for making it too silly, Paul Merton who wanted to prove definitively in the 00s how DW is a sad relic for being too campy, where the f*ck are you c*nts now? What THAT villain above, literally a panto dame there is a more serious, proper villain for the show than this monster from what's regarded by most as the weakest story of the final season?  This scene here TV Tropes makes the story too silly where all of its other sci fi concepts like the Exillon city must be overlooked. But this here is chilling? Again it's just too frustrating being a DW fan these days. Classic Who despite being demonstrably superior is held to such a higher standard that even small mistakes like a Dalek being a bit stupid to charge at the Exillons get used to demonise it forever, where as the Fitzroy Crowd's much bigger crap like a villain dancing turning it into a literally parody, gets a pass, and is even praised simply because of the bullshit propaganda that it is DW at its most successful and mainstream. I guess being a bullshitter really is the most important talent you can have these days. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 20:29:18 GMT
Just watched it back and realised the Doctor told the constable that he'd just been "snowmanned". For those of you that don't know, that's basically gay slang meaning having a few fingers inserted up your arse. That is just perverse, and does not belong anywhere near children's television. It borders on being pedophilic. Russell T Davies you are a sick, sick "man", if I can even call you that.
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Post by rushy on Jan 2, 2024 20:34:09 GMT
"Look at the size o' dat thing, Doctor!"
"Yes, Jamie, that is a big one."
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Post by iank on Jan 2, 2024 20:42:27 GMT
Oh f*ck off rushy, really? That's your comparison?
Davies is a degenerate.
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Post by rushy on Jan 2, 2024 20:45:09 GMT
Are we really such puritans?
Most people will not catch the innuendo anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 21:11:13 GMT
To be honest I'm a bit drunk at the moment so maybe my reaction was out of proportion, but it's still perverse. It's not like it's particularly common slang anyway, it's a bit of a deep cut if anything. But I have heard it once or twice around the scene.
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