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Post by zarius on Jan 8, 2024 11:31:39 GMT
They all are. I love that they think fiddled figures over the course of a month are something to brag about. What losers. They don't even factor in that the "10 million" was for the entirety of Nu Who from 2005-2022, with only a fraction of those views going towards Ncuti |
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Post by iank on Jan 8, 2024 21:10:03 GMT
That is embarassingly desperate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:05:58 GMT
Good point well made, Burrun. It's always interesting how those that slag stuff off often go on to put their own (inferior) version of it out later! Perhaps RTD should declare the entire Ncuti era Xmas specials, to deflect the embarrassingly little media criticism the show gets.  Elitist 80s fanboys who appeared on radio shows and things like point of view to trash and stick the knife into JNT for making it too silly, Paul Merton who wanted to prove definitively in the 00s how DW is a sad relic for being too campy, where the f*ck are you c*nts now? What THAT villain above, literally a panto dame there is a more serious, proper villain for the show than this monster from what's regarded by most as the weakest story of the final season?  This scene here TV Tropes makes the story too silly where all of its other sci fi concepts like the Exillon city must be overlooked. But this here is chilling? Again it's just too frustrating being a DW fan these days. Classic Who despite being demonstrably superior is held to such a higher standard that even small mistakes like a Dalek being a bit stupid to charge at the Exillons get used to demonise it forever, where as the Fitzroy Crowd's much bigger crap like a villain dancing turning it into a literally parody, gets a pass, and is even praised simply because of the bullshit propaganda that it is DW at its most successful and mainstream. I guess being a bullshitter really is the most important talent you can have these days. The fact that Battlefield is considered the weakest of a season says it all, doesn't it? The quality of those last seasons are so high that the inevitable "bad" story of a season is actually f*cking great! I recommend reading the novelization. I'm reading it now and it's just so expansive and tightly written. The book is far more serious too which makes it feel closer to the rest of the season. EDIT: I must disagree with Cartmel's assessment that the Destroyer just looked like a guy in a mask. Not at all, the Destroyer is one of the best-looking designs in the history of the series and the makeup is incredibly good for the budget. I'd even say he looks a bit better than the Ancient One from Fenric (which looked very good too!) |
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Post by rushy on Jan 10, 2024 22:12:47 GMT
I'd say Ghost Light is actually the weakest. It has a good idea at its core, but it needed another episode at bare minimum to flesh things out. Preferably two.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:16:10 GMT
I'd say Ghost Light is actually the weakest. It has a good idea at its core, but it needed another episode at bare minimum to flesh things out. Preferably two. It's essentially a four parter squeezed into three part. That said, it's dripping with so much atmosphere and the core plot of evolution is intricately weaved throughout Platt's rather underappreciated script. Apart from the "Goooo" bit, McCoy probably gives his greatest performance as the Doctor. He's owning everyone and everything by the end of that story. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:18:28 GMT
Most of the British public who are unaware of his progression in later years will only remember McCoy in his Time and the Rani form and that's a real tragedy.
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Post by rushy on Jan 10, 2024 22:22:12 GMT
to be fair, McCoy did clown about even in his better stories sometimes. I can imagine someone seeing him do the Gods of Ragnarok bit and turning off in disgust.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:26:38 GMT
to be fair, McCoy did clown about even in his better stories sometimes. I can imagine someone seeing him do the Gods of Ragnarok bit and turning off in disgust. He was so much more than a clown, though. There's so much mystery in his eyes and he perfectly conveys the sense that he's two steps ahead of everyone else. Some of the modern Doctors are impossible to take serious especially the new chap with his singing and cringe line delivery. One gets praised for it, the other is the butt of jokes. Can you guess which is which? |
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Post by iank on Jan 10, 2024 22:45:57 GMT
"I ain't afraid of no ghost!" - The best Doctor evah, apparently...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:49:44 GMT
"I ain't afraid of no ghost!" - The best Doctor evah, apparently... That's a great line, but I personally prefer: "IT IS DE-FEN-DED!" Fantastic! Oh wait, that's what the other one says. I really can't keep up with all this exceptional dialogue and line delivery. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:52:49 GMT
It is bollocks to imply that Tennant wasn't needlessly over the top as the Doctor sometimes. He's probably at his worst in Daleks in Manhattan, shouting and screaming so loud that even the Sixth Doctor would tell him to keep it down.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jan 10, 2024 22:54:19 GMT
"I ain't afraid of no ghost!" - The best Doctor evah, apparently... “GOWAN, MAH SHAN!”- David Tennant, 2007, penned by Chris Chibnall. “OOH-OOAH YOU BEAWTEE-AH!”- David Tennant, 2006, penned by Russell T Davies. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2024 22:58:21 GMT
"I ain't afraid of no ghost!" - The best Doctor evah, apparently... “GOWAN, MAH SHAN!”- David Tennant, 2007, penned by Chris Chibnall. “OOH-OOAH YOU BEAWTEE-AH!”- David Tennant, 2006, penned by Russell T Davies. RTD said this of Robert Holmes' script for Talons: "The best dialogue ever written. It's up there with Dennis Potter" I doubt, were he alive, that Holmes would return the compliment. |
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Post by rushy on Jan 10, 2024 23:21:22 GMT
to be fair, McCoy did clown about even in his better stories sometimes. I can imagine someone seeing him do the Gods of Ragnarok bit and turning off in disgust. He was so much more than a clown, though. There's so much mystery in his eyes and he perfectly conveys the sense that he's two steps ahead of everyone else. Some of the modern Doctors are impossible to take serious especially the new chap with his singing and cringe line delivery. One gets praised for it, the other is the butt of jokes. Can you guess which is which? I'm just saying that it's understandable if someone would come away with the wrong impression of Sylvester and his era. It was very kitsch and stylized, and that's going to look ridiculous to a lot of people. Especially if the lavishness of Hinchcliffe or the sentimentality of RTD or the mind games of Moffat is their high standard for the show. It's also worth noting that there's a bias towards whatever's new. My mother for example respects the classics, but she'd always pick New Who over them because it's just more modern. Ironically it's why she prefers McCoy over the earlier Doctors lol. (She made a singular exception towards the Whittaker era, because she hates the idea of a female Doctor and Jodie's acting in general). |
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Post by rushy on Jan 10, 2024 23:23:18 GMT
the highest compliment my mother ever gave the classics was that she thought "Shada" is one of the best Doctor Who stories.
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