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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 6, 2024 12:13:17 GMT
Tooth and Claw Usually like this one, but switched it off after twenty minutes. One of those classic "it was much better when I was a kid" experiences. It's funny I think New Who and Old Who should be rewatched in completely different ways. With Classic Who you can pick out any random story. I'm not doing a Paul Cornell here and saying DW had no continuity, but many stories were made as essentially one offs, with any continuity links being handled in such a way where you could enjoy them on their own, and you wouldn't be put off watching an earlier story. On the contrary you might think "I want to see how Davros made the Daleks.." As they'd give you just a bit of info so it seems tantalizing, but not flashbacks or full descriptions of the plot or anything like that. Of course you can watch Classic Who from the start if you want and plenty of people have enjoyed it that way. However the fact that is so long and vast can put people off. Also it's unique multi episode format can seem a bit daunting at first if you're not used to it, and to overcome that along with the other limitations of the very early Hartnell stories can be a bit much for a brand new viewer. On top of that the fact that a huge chunk of it is missing can serve as a further obstacle that I can imagine can make a lot of people say "oh no I don't want to make that kind of commitment." That's why if you want to introduce people to the show I'd say show them 10 random stories from all Doctors eras. That will introduce them to the world, the character, the format and after that if they like it they can pick stories to watch. (I'd say Remembrance is the best first story to introduce people to the show with.) New Who meanwhile I've never ever had a hankering to watch just random episodes of it. I think you have a better appreciate if you watch it right the way through (well up until series 7.) New Who ironically before they embraced the bullshit "no continuity" rule actually had really good, tight continuity, more so than the original and part of what set it apart in a good way from the original, was that you felt like you were watching the story of the characters unfold. Not just the Doctor, but the companions who we get to know a bit better, the seasonal story arcs, even the villains who we see undergo an arc like the Daleks, the Cybermen, the Master and the Silence etc. Whilst I'm not saying there are no good stand alone episodess, even then I feel that given how much shorter and thinner the stories are, that watching them on their own kind of feels a bit underwhelming. To be fair the same is true of many, many tv shows like Once Upon A Time. Still ironically whilst new who has often been said to be more accessible, I think the classic era is as I can always rewatch random classic stories for entertainment, even if I'm not in a big DW mood, where as with the revival I have to think okay I really want to get back into this world in order to plow right the way through it. I just don't have the energy to watch it all again. I like maybe two to three episodes a series (except Series 3 where I like the whole lot). I'm not sure it's worth sitting through all the crap just to appreciate the good ones more. |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 6, 2024 12:44:00 GMT
LOL well that's a fair view to have as well. Again it just might not be your thing overall, but I wouldn't let bitterness at how it turned out put you off it completely as was the case with me.
I think in time New Who will probably be seen like the Simpsons, a show that was very good and important for a while, but went on waaaaay too long and now sadly has more bad seasons than good ones.
Classic Who has a better legacy certainly as there aren't more bad seasons than good ones and whilst they beeb may have tried to make out that it was a show that lost its way when people actually got to see the McCoy era stories it was reassessed and is now viewed as being decades ahead of its time. I can't see that ever happening for the Capaldi, Ncuti and Jodie eras. Unless tv is so shit it's made completely in their image, which sadly is possible I suppose, but even then it can't last for long as it is a failing format.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 8, 2024 11:30:37 GMT
Once I've got some nice frames for my Jenna Coleman prints I might sit down and watch everything from The Snowmen to Deep Breath. It's really the only portion of the Moffat era I can watch without skipping. I can't be bothered to watch the first half of Series 7 or the majority of the Capaldi era, but I fancy doing a bit of a Jenna marathon for old times' sake.
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 8, 2024 20:55:44 GMT
Almost finished my rewatch now can you believe it. I just have the Day of the Doctor and The Time of the Doctor to go which I will watch tomorrow.
Seven series of New Who. Been a great watch in all honesty. I just wonder why they decided to cancel it after 2013? I mean it was going so well?
It annoys me we'll never who the woman in the shop was, but maybe some mysteries are better left unsolved?
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 8, 2024 23:53:45 GMT
Spoke too soon about the Lodger LOL. It's funny I can remember really, really enjoying it when it first aired and a few times on rewatches, but now? It just bored me. It felt like a return to one of RTD's weaker stories, paper thin sci fi concept, more of a soap opera, tedious sappy ending etc. Again it's still entertaining because of Matt, but I think in this case they maybe put too much on his shoulders. The Lodger and Closing Time piss me off for different reasons. The fact that they tried to pass off the usual dingy Cardiff streets as my history-rich home town is beyond the pale. No Castle, no nothing. They couldn't even be bothered to get some establishing shots. I'd like to know what department store Gareth Roberts thinks that's supposed to be. I bet he's never set foot here. I've said this before, why not just have the Cybermen underneath Colchester Castle or something? At least in Jodie's era they actually showed Anfield when they were in Liverpool. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 9, 2024 21:52:34 GMT
What 1970s Paris would have looked like on screen if the BBC Wales team had made City of Death.  |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 17, 2024 21:13:13 GMT
Watched Part 1 of Talons earlier. Absolutely glorious depiction of Victorian London. This is probably the most polished the Hinchcliffe era ever got in terms of set design and location filming.
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Post by iank on Aug 18, 2024 7:24:49 GMT
Almost finished my rewatch now can you believe it. I just have the Day of the Doctor and The Time of the Doctor to go which I will watch tomorrow. Seven series of New Who. Been a great watch in all honesty. I just wonder why they decided to cancel it after 2013? I mean it was going so well? It annoys me we'll never who the woman in the shop was, but maybe some mysteries are better left unsolved? Um... it was strongly implied it was Missy, wasn't it? |
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 18, 2024 12:22:43 GMT
Almost finished my rewatch now can you believe it. I just have the Day of the Doctor and The Time of the Doctor to go which I will watch tomorrow. Seven series of New Who. Been a great watch in all honesty. I just wonder why they decided to cancel it after 2013? I mean it was going so well? It annoys me we'll never who the woman in the shop was, but maybe some mysteries are better left unsolved? Um... it was strongly implied it was Missy, wasn't it? I knew that I was just pretending the show was axed in 2013. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 20, 2024 10:28:29 GMT
Androzani.
An adult and intense story. There's no magic gold dust to erase the death and destruction present here. Holmes has written a script that throws the nicest Doctor into a real hellhole. He's shot at, hit and chased by murderous gunrunners as he tries to find a cure to a condition for himself and a woman he barely knows. THAT'S the Doctor. The dialogue is first rate. We shouldn't care about the paranoia of a corrupt chairman nor should we particular get invested by a "pathetic little local war" but we do anyway. It's so well written, so rich in character and dialogue that you can't help but be on the edge of your seat. Then there's the direction which never fails to impress. It really lifts an already marvellous production up beyond even the greatest stories of the 70s. One of the true classics.
10/10
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 23, 2024 21:29:56 GMT
The Invasion - Episode 1 & 2
Ominous contemporary story which feels a lot like a spy film. The animated episode holds up very well and captures the cloudy, moody atmosphere of the existing episodes perfectly. Episode two is awesome too with UNIT entering the scene.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 26, 2024 22:59:23 GMT
Finished The Invasion. That's how it's done! Camfield was such a masterful director back then. I'll always love him for giving us some of the most iconic images of the Cybermen. Speaking of the Cybermen, this is by far their best design. I'm glad they used them again in Revenge even if the thing on their heads is slightly different. The main criticism fans have is that they're not in it much, but Vaughn is such a great villain (worthy of a Bond villain surely?) that I have no issues looking past it. I watch Earthshock for classic Cyber action, but I enjoy this one the most for the suspense and mystery.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Sept 3, 2024 18:45:42 GMT
Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. (1966)
Not really a story but more deserving of being mentioned here than NuWho. This is a really fun 60s adventure film which gets a bit too much flak for my liking. It isn't perfect and the abridged nature of the story means that it doesn't feel as complete or as moving as the superior Hartnell serial, but as a 90 minute time waster it more than does the job. The Daleks look and sound incredible here especially the red one. The Robomen are a bit crap but then they were naff in the original serial as well. I lament the fact they never got to make The Chase for the big screen and that Cushing never got to appear again.
7/10
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Post by Ludders II on Sept 3, 2024 22:22:39 GMT
Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. (1966) Not really a story but more deserving of being mentioned here than NuWho. This is a really fun 60s adventure film which gets a bit too much flak for my liking. It isn't perfect and the abridged nature of the story means that it doesn't feel as complete or as moving as the superior Hartnell serial, but as a 90 minute time waster it more than does the job. The Daleks look and sound incredible here especially the red one. The Robomen are a bit crap but then they were naff in the original serial as well. I lament the fact they never got to make The Chase for the big screen and that Cushing never got to appear again. 7/10 I like this one. It was the first time I saw the Daleks on screen as a kid. It does have a completely different vibe to the tv series though. It doesn't really feel like Dr Who, but it's good fun. I wish Cushing had played it a more seriously, but you can't have everything. Nice to see Philip Madoc turn up. The music is very much of its time, and I find it a bit jarring. Love the Dalek saucer and the model work. Very Gerry Anderson. 😎 |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Sept 3, 2024 22:30:04 GMT
Daleks Invasion Earth 2150 A.D. (1966) Not really a story but more deserving of being mentioned here than NuWho. This is a really fun 60s adventure film which gets a bit too much flak for my liking. It isn't perfect and the abridged nature of the story means that it doesn't feel as complete or as moving as the superior Hartnell serial, but as a 90 minute time waster it more than does the job. The Daleks look and sound incredible here especially the red one. The Robomen are a bit crap but then they were naff in the original serial as well. I lament the fact they never got to make The Chase for the big screen and that Cushing never got to appear again. 7/10 I like this one. It was the first time I saw the Daleks on screen as a kid. It does have a completely different vibe to the tv series though. It doesn't really feel like Dr Who, but it's good fun. I wish Cushing had played it a more seriously, but you can't have everything. Nice to see Philip Madoc turn up. The music is very much of its time, and I find it a bit jarring. Love the Dalek saucer and the model work. Very Gerry Anderson. 😎 The saucer is very impressive. I totally agree about the music as well. The moody drum stuff is quite effective, but the Robomen march is a bit too silly. Madoc's death is probably my favourite scene in the film. He knows he's about to be killed without the Daleks even saying anything. There's lots of decent Dalek moments scattered throughout actually. I also much prefer the reveal of the Dalek at the old lady's house than in the original serial. |
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