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Post by iank on Nov 3, 2023 21:08:13 GMT
The words "for today's modern audiences" are essentially code for "this is shit."
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Post by rushy on Nov 9, 2023 5:30:19 GMT
"The Daleks (1963), written by Russell T. Davies"
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Post by iank on Nov 9, 2023 6:10:08 GMT
Jesus f*cking Christ.
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Post by zarius on Nov 9, 2023 8:48:02 GMT
He should write a piss-take dub like he did The Flashing Blade
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2023 9:12:44 GMT
He just has to control every area of the series, doesn't he?
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 9, 2023 10:03:36 GMT
The very idea that the BBC thinks a timeless classic like this needs to be re-edited makes my blood boil. Seriously I can run through dozens of New Who stories that need re-edited and rewritten for modern audiences. Hmmm how about Love and Monsters with its blow job stones, and horrible jokes about Ian Levine being a big fat c*nt? How about Last of the Time Turds, with The Jesus Doctor, an utterly laughable concept and execution, or bits of dialogue like Martha's speech or "HE NEVER WALKETH UPON THE EARTH!" What about Dark Water/Death in Heaven?
How about you recut all of Michelle Gomez scenes from it and replace them with someone who is actually going to play the Master, rewrite the scenes that are just laughable like the Master gaining teleportation powers to get Osgood, cut out Santa, any scene with Danny Pink, flying Cybermen?
PS speaking as a 90s baby, born 30 years after the first story aired I had 0 problems with the Daleks and absolutely adored it. It's still an intelligent, poignant and thoughtful take on hating others for who they are, wrapped up in an extremely imaginative sci fi story. Something the new who writers are utterly incapable of. God with them and the cultish "be kind" "the Doctor is so wonderfully impossibly silly" creepy cult like fans on Reddit and other forums, DW drew the short straw in fandoms. I'd take even the snobby, elitist Trekkies over them.
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Post by iank on Nov 9, 2023 20:58:44 GMT
The narcissism is strong with these guys.
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Post by rushy on Nov 9, 2023 22:40:20 GMT
I just find it all very funny. I don't think there's any cause to be genuinely angry, because it's not as if they'll stop selling DVDs of "The Daleks", or featuring the original version on Britbox. As long as the actual unaltered story is available, there's no real cause for concern. I'm also not afraid of people seeing RTD's version first, because... well, at the risk of sounding pompous, if you're not intelligent enough to differentiate between the original and RTD's take, then you're probably not intelligent enough to appreciate the serial.
Real frustration should be reserved for those re-edits of Ian Fleming books, and George Lucas not giving us good releases of the original Star Wars trilogy.
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Post by zarius on Nov 10, 2023 10:56:03 GMT
The new material Russel has written are new lines for the Daleks that will be read out by David Graham, one of the original voices from the 60s (and Parker from Thunderbirds)
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Post by iank on Nov 10, 2023 21:47:20 GMT
They've already got it up for preorder for DVD/Blu ray.
Pass. If they'd been arsed to do the whole thing maybe, but zero interest in this bastardisation.
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Post by rushy on Nov 10, 2023 21:52:31 GMT
The new material Russel has written are new lines for the Daleks that will be read out by David Graham No offense to Graham, but does he sound anything like he did in 1963? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2023 21:54:09 GMT
They've already got it up for preorder for DVD/Blu ray. Pass. If they'd been arsed to do the whole thing maybe, but zero interest in this bastardisation. The original version will be included meaning it might be worth getting the Blu ray just to have The Daleks on the format. Although I guess Season 1 will get a release at some point so maybe not. |
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Post by iank on Nov 10, 2023 21:56:07 GMT
Yeah I'll wait. I'm getting sick of them squeezing classic fans for everything they're worth with substandard product (ie the animations).
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Post by Spark Doll King on Nov 10, 2023 23:52:10 GMT
It's never just shit news with this franchise anymore is it? We are finally at the stage were every bit of bad news for Doctor Who is just the tip of the turdberg.
The real awful part is that fans spend years trying to find missing episodes and construct libraries of existing one for people to enjoy in the most complete way possible, then these c*nts come along and are actively vandalising episodes FFS!. Just picture it, a world were classic who is cut up into piece, vandalized and bits out of print that without going right out of your way you can never easily watch it's episodes anymore. You already cannot watch the first ever f*cking story unless you buy an old dvd or watch it illegally online, you can bet you arse that this shit version of Dalek will be the more easily accessible version of the story for a while.
What the f*ck is the point in all this shite really, what dose anyone gain from this effort? A dumbed down story for an audience with the attention space of a nat!
It reminds me of a phenomenon in the anime scene. For years people pushed back against localising companies, demanding the most authentic subs and dubs possible, yet in the 5 years or so the same people who fought back against badly translated anime are now actively vandalizing localisations because they, naturally, reflect sensibilities native to Japan, not the west. Now I'm not saying I agree with everything Japan finds acceptable, but I feel it is wrong to push ones ideals into a work that is not their own without permission and alter the meaning of that material.
I will not be surprised if one day it turns out some of these so called "fans" in charge of DW started actively destroy the BBC Classic Archive just because it doesn't mesh with their sensibilities.
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Post by iank on Nov 11, 2023 0:48:10 GMT
30 years ago fans rallied to get the eps complete and unedited on VHS.
Now they squee when they get versions with 50% of the story cut out.
IQs really have dropped sharply in the last few decades, haven't they?
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