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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 28, 2023 11:36:20 GMT
"You there! Get away from the TARDIS control panel..." "I'M MAKING TIME!" "You're drunk!" "I assure you, I'm not, Bill. Honestly. I've only had a few fluid links!" |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 23, 2024 15:45:51 GMT
A bit out of date now, but my thoughts after seeing this:
The colourisation wasn't as intense as I expected. But it does seem variable. The close up shots look really good. It's the long shots that suffer the most from oversaturation.
Similarly, I was concerned about the music, but whilst some bits were certainly were modelled on typical Murray Gold bombast and were very inappropriate, other bits reminded me of Dudley Simpson.
I think the biggest problem is that the new music wasn't actually needed, (especially rubbish like that awful muzak around 40mins in) and they didn't have the courage to leave the original music as it was.
But in that sense, this whole project was unnecessary anyway.
The whole problem for me is seemingly the need to put music throughout every second of it. There are passage of dialogue around 30 mins in that really don't need any music at all. Cary's original soundscape was in parts enough to add atmosphere where conventional 'music' just gets in the way if anything. I would've hoped Ayres would've shared those sensibilities, but then we don't know who might've been breathing down his neck saying 'we need to make this bit more dramatic'. 'Dramatic' in their minds probably means 'cinematic', which in their limited intake of modern blockbusters leads to it all being a bit sub-John Williams.
The editing, as I suspected, was too over the top.
In the end, it's quite a difficult call. I think what I enjoyed about it came from the fact that the source material, the original episodes are still a thing of wonder, and the edit butchery, although it jars and feels rushed and uneven, can't decimate the marvel of the original story.
I think ultimately, everything aspect of it was uneven. The editing, the colourisation, and the music. There were moments that worked, but as I say, for me it mostly served to remind me how good it was in the first place. This was essentially a NuWho remake for a NuWho generation. A mild edit, say down to 90 to 100 mins might've acceptable if done right. Something not disimilar to old Classic Series omnibus versions. But down to 75mins hacks away far too much.
It's out to buy now, but I haven't bothered.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Feb 25, 2024 21:59:26 GMT
The only reason to buy it is to own the original episodes on Blu ray. Even then there might not be any point if they end up releasing Season 1 on the format in the future.
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 25, 2024 22:11:27 GMT
The only reason to buy it is to own the original episodes on Blu ray. Even then there might not be any point if they end up releasing Season 1 on the format in the future. I thought the same, but the original 7 parter isn't on Blu Ray, they've just bunged it in on dvd. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Feb 26, 2024 23:36:38 GMT
I'll just save my money for the Toymaker animation then. Something tells me there won't be a shortage of copies for that one. Sounds like everyone is avoiding it like the plague.
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 27, 2024 10:07:17 GMT
The only reason to buy it is to own the original episodes on Blu ray. Even then there might not be any point if they end up releasing Season 1 on the format in the future. I thought the same, but the original 7 parter isn't on Blu Ray, they've just bunged it in on dvd. Seriously? They're not bothering with a Blue Ray release for the original classic Dalek story, and are only releasing the bastardisation? I mean I don't care as I don't bother with Blue Ray anyway, but the idea that this version would be the one that is being made available to future generations is deeply depressing. I have never seen such a flat out insult to the original as that abomination. Scratch that, I've never seen such an insult to the audience as that crap fest. Having to remind us of what happened 2 mins ago through flashbacks? Benjamin Cook and RTD are parasites who have ripped the absolute guts out of this franchise along with their friends, and now they are actually rewriting the past stories. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Feb 27, 2024 13:29:59 GMT
I thought the same, but the original 7 parter isn't on Blu Ray, they've just bunged it in on dvd. Seriously? They're not bothering with a Blue Ray release for the original classic Dalek story, and are only releasing the bastardisation? I mean I don't care as I don't bother with Blue Ray anyway, but the idea that this version would be the one that is being made available to future generations is deeply depressing. I have never seen such a flat out insult to the original as that abomination. Scratch that, I've never seen such an insult to the audience as that crap fest. Having to remind us of what happened 2 mins ago through flashbacks? Benjamin Cook and RTD are parasites who have ripped the absolute guts out of this franchise along with their friends, and now they are actually rewriting the past stories. There's a fifteen minute featurette, though! Surely you wouldn't want to miss a quarter of an hour of the likes of Ben Cook patting themselves on the back? |
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 27, 2024 13:44:01 GMT
Seriously? They're not bothering with a Blue Ray release for the original classic Dalek story, and are only releasing the bastardisation? I mean I don't care as I don't bother with Blue Ray anyway, but the idea that this version would be the one that is being made available to future generations is deeply depressing. I have never seen such a flat out insult to the original as that abomination. Scratch that, I've never seen such an insult to the audience as that crap fest. Having to remind us of what happened 2 mins ago through flashbacks? Benjamin Cook and RTD are parasites who have ripped the absolute guts out of this franchise along with their friends, and now they are actually rewriting the past stories. There's a fifteen minute featurette, though! Surely you wouldn't want to miss a quarter of an hour of the likes of Ben Cook patting themselves on the back? He really is a toxic individual. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 17:42:18 GMT
I thought the same, but the original 7 parter isn't on Blu Ray, they've just bunged it in on dvd. Seriously? They're not bothering with a Blue Ray release for the original classic Dalek story, and are only releasing the bastardisation? I mean I don't care as I don't bother with Blue Ray anyway, but the idea that this version would be the one that is being made available to future generations is deeply depressing. I have never seen such a flat out insult to the original as that abomination. Scratch that, I've never seen such an insult to the audience as that crap fest. Having to remind us of what happened 2 mins ago through flashbacks? Benjamin Cook and RTD are parasites who have ripped the absolute guts out of this franchise along with their friends, and now they are actually rewriting the past stories. From what I've read on the Dr Who dvd and Blu Ray Collectors FB page, the original 7 parter hasn't been upgraded to Blu Ray yet, so they can only put it out on dvd. It's just The Daleks in Colour which is on Blu Ray, with a dvd of the original story included in the set. It's a bit misleading. I almost bought it because I thought it contained a Blu Ray disc of the original story, when in fact it's just the same dvd from the In the Beginning dvd set. I'm glad I discovered this before buying it. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 14, 2024 23:35:18 GMT
They're actually releasing the soundtrack for this on CD. What's the bloody point? Cary's original and superior music is already available.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 14, 2024 23:39:24 GMT
Ayres has come out and said that they (they being Cock and all the other twats) were originally going to rescore the entire thing but Ayres made sure that some of the Cary cues were still included. Absolute nutters. If these idiots had their way they would probably remove Dudley's gorgeous piano pieces from City of Death and replace it with a Hollywood action movie soundtrack.
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Post by Ludders II on Aug 15, 2024 0:24:22 GMT
They're actually releasing the soundtrack for this on CD. What's the bloody point? Cary's original and superior music is already available. That'll be a big seller.  |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Aug 15, 2024 15:26:40 GMT
They're actually releasing the soundtrack for this on CD. What's the bloody point? Cary's original and superior music is already available. That'll be a big seller. 50+ people have bought it so far. More money than sense clearly. |
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Post by Ludders II on Aug 15, 2024 15:43:49 GMT
That'll be a big seller. 50+ people have bought it so far. More money than sense clearly. There's a lot of completists out there that just have to buy everything. Discernment doesn't come into it. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Aug 15, 2024 18:37:49 GMT
50+ people have bought it so far. More money than sense clearly. There's a lot of completists out there that just have to buy everything. Discernment doesn't come into it. What the f*ck can you do with someone like this..? |
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