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Post by zarius on Nov 1, 2023 8:23:05 GMT
Just finished the Earthshock one
The linking material book-ends a pretty standard uninterrupted omnibus version of the serial that's highlighted...but Russel (who wrote this) really doesn't put his best foot forward giving Tegan anything too insightful, she becomes an environmentalist (which I think Janet is in real life) and she's apparently dating Nyssa.
The ship Five and Tegan inhabit is a TARDIS connected to the web of memory and time, it reaches out and collects Five and Tegan, and they gather they have to tell the story of how Adric died and come to terms with it. It's a nice premise, and could have a lot more raw meat on the bone, but it's a bit like how they acted in Time Flight...they acknowledge it was a sad event, that Adric was a kid that admired The Doctor, but they never looked back on it and continued to run
Will watch the Colin and Nichola one next.
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 8:57:03 GMT
Why is Russell so desperate to have Nyssa and Tegan be a couple? It's an odd pairing.
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Post by iank on Nov 1, 2023 8:59:49 GMT
Cause he's a weirdo.
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 9:44:10 GMT
Fitzroy Crowd 2014-2020
Doctor Who is all about change. The people criticizing Missy and Jodie are exactly the type of people who years ago would have criticized Hartnell changing into Troughton. You have to accept that DW has only survived as long as it has because it is willing to throw EVERYTHING about its past in the bin. Those of you who say that the Doctor and the Master have core characterisations, and are upset at them being completely thrown in the bin to the point where they are now a literal parody of themselves "Curse of Fatal Death." Are just trying to impose limits on the show, and our writers creativity is simply too big to be restrained by things that happened in the 1970s. You have to remember not that many young people will have watched classic who either and that it was always terribly sexist, doesn't hold up and celebrated the male gaze. Also most of its fans were sad basement dwelling Dinosaurs and virgins anyway who hurt the brands image. We're reaching out to a new audience of young, hip, sexy, activist millennials and gen z kids here, look at our new diverse time team, that is the future of who fandom rather than stuffy old neck beards. Also I don't know about you but I think it is high time that women got a chance to be the hero for once in all of sci fi and fantasy.
Viewers crash to 2 million, who fandom becomes a battle ground of everyone's political hang ups, one of their new time team is fired by DW magazine for the crime of having opinions in a way that stigmatizes her mental health and is misogynistic "she wanted to talk about wimmins issues rather than compliment our fabulous female characters, so we dumped that crazy biatttchhh." DW using this new approach after 2014 produces a grand total of 4 complete series in 9 years. The same amount that the show produced from 1986=1995 when it was you know actually cancelled for most of that time.
Fitzroy Crowd 2022 = present
All of DW matters. We need to honor its huge past. Lets bring back every living companion we can in a final doctors story, even Ian Chesterton whose actor is now 100 years old. Lets do an entire mini series about all the old companions and Doctors, lets actually make the 14th Doctor an old Doctor, for the first time in its history, lets have the same leading man, leading lady, same director, same producer, same writer, same composer, same supporting cast (including a 95 year old man) from 2008, let's carry on story arcs from 2008, lets bring back old companions as recurring characters, even the ones whose eras didn't do well like Bonnie Langford. Gotta grab those nostalgia points and squeeze every last drop from the member berries. Let's bring back an old obscure one off villain from a crappy, wiped 60s story that actually uses the N-word.
Its important that DW honors its past at all times and that we show the fans that they are important, even those from the Hartnell era.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 10:14:31 GMT
I watched some of the Steven/Vicki one. It's quite sweet to be honest. It warms my heart to see them rejoice at seeing each other. They've also retained their tongue in cheek responses from their stories. This is actually a terrific idea and from what I've seen very well executed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 10:49:13 GMT
DW using this new approach after 2014 produces a grand total of 4 complete series in 9 years. The same amount that the show produced from 1986=1995 when it was you know actually cancelled for most of that time. I rolled my eyes at the hyperbole before realising that this is actually true, holy shit. Series 9 in 2015, series 10 in 2017, series 11 in 2018, series 12 in 2020, series 13 (which, as you point out, barely counts as a complete series) in 2021, and the next series won't start until 2024. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 11:18:39 GMT
DW using this new approach after 2014 produces a grand total of 4 complete series in 9 years. The same amount that the show produced from 1986=1995 when it was you know actually cancelled for most of that time. I rolled my eyes at the hyperbole before realising that this is actually true, holy shit. Series 9 in 2015, series 10 in 2017, series 11 in 2018, series 12 in 2020, series 13 (which, as you point out, barely counts as a complete series) in 2021, and the next series won't start until 2024. Haha I know right. I was even shocked to learn that. Really I know COVID was there in the middle of it, but that should only account for one year. Even then btw, lots of shows didn't miss a season, it was just that the season was a bit delayed for months like Supernatural that was in the middle of a much longer season yet still managed to get through it without a you know 4 year gap. Ditto Umbrella Academy (really good show btw.) That's what it will be next year. 4 years since a full season of DW was on the air by the time Ncuti airs. That's almost as long as the gap between McCoy and McGann. That was 6 years. Of course you might say well there were specials, but to be fair there was also Dimensions in Time in between McCoy and McGann. Hilariously enough Dimensions in Time got higher viewers than anything in Jodie's time too, and with the show getting a new lease of life on video, you could say that DW was in a much healthier state in the early 90s. Its arguably already had a hiatus. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 11:41:18 GMT
Why is Russell so desperate to have Nyssa and Tegan be a couple? It's an odd pairing. Tegan gave Nyssa her first orgasm. This is canon, bro. Get with the times. I don't get why fans get so hysterical at the thought of Tegan sitting on Nyssa's face from time to time. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 12:06:10 GMT
Why is Russell so desperate to have Nyssa and Tegan be a couple? It's an odd pairing. Tegan gave Nyssa her first orgasm. This is canon, bro. Get with the times. I don't get why fans get so hysterical at the thought of Tegan sitting on Nyssa's face from time to time. Your fantasies aside LOL, I don't have any issue with it, I was just commenting that it seems to be something RTD is desperate to push, even when Power of the Doctor and that recent season 20 Blue ray debunked it he still goes back to it. |
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Post by zarius on Nov 1, 2023 12:36:41 GMT
Mind Robber
I love that there's mystery to the memory TARDIS, with what it can do surprising those that accompany it. Zoe and Jamie's memories are restored permanently just by being inside of it. Jaime tells Zoe of his five daughters and Zoe has become a three-term President on her home colony
Vengeance on Varos
Now here is where the 'Tales' could be setting up something else Sixth Doctor is canonically a much older version, indicating he's a 'revisited' face. Peri is now widowed and requests The Doctor take her back to Thorus Beta every year to pay tribute to Ycarnos. The Doctor and Peri rechristen themselves the 'warriors of the universe' and start using the memory TARDIS for exploration.
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 12:50:59 GMT
Mind Robber I love that there's mystery to the memory TARDIS, with what it can do surprising those that accompany it. Zoe and Jamie's memories are restored permanently just by being inside of it. Jaime tells Zoe of his five daughters and Zoe has become a three-term President on her home colony Vengeance on Varos Now here is where the 'Tales' could be setting up something else Sixth Doctor is canonically a much older version, indicating he's a 'revisited' face. Peri is now widowed and requests The Doctor take her back to Thorus Beta every year to pay tribute to Ycarnos. The Doctor and Peri rechristen themselves the 'warriors of the universe' and start using the memory TARDIS for exploration. Nice, thanks for these. Just to be clear whilst I might be grump about the "ALL CHANGE IS GOOD" "LETS MILK THE PAST" switch, I don't want to let that ruin these for anyone who does enjoy them, or the actors who get to revisit old times. I like Jamie being married with kids, Zoe's ending is a bit too much. Meanwhile I'm glad that RTD kept the Ycarnos ending. As terrible as it was, her first ending would still have been worse. Incidentally I always had a head canon that Pertwee went back for Jamie and Zoe after Jo left at the end of season 10. After all they were ripped from him, and that they all went on adventures with him before leaving at their own leisure. Obviously this writes that out, but not in my alternate sequel series LOL. I did think it was a bit funny that he never revisited them. Meanwhile I doubt the Doctor would ever call himself a warrior of the universe. |
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Post by zarius on Nov 1, 2023 14:10:41 GMT
Mind Robber I love that there's mystery to the memory TARDIS, with what it can do surprising those that accompany it. Zoe and Jamie's memories are restored permanently just by being inside of it. Jaime tells Zoe of his five daughters and Zoe has become a three-term President on her home colony Vengeance on Varos Now here is where the 'Tales' could be setting up something else Sixth Doctor is canonically a much older version, indicating he's a 'revisited' face. Peri is now widowed and requests The Doctor take her back to Thorus Beta every year to pay tribute to Ycarnos. The Doctor and Peri rechristen themselves the 'warriors of the universe' and start using the memory TARDIS for exploration. Meanwhile I doubt the Doctor would ever call himself a warrior of the universe. It might be in reference to that alternate unbound universe from Big Finish where Colin became the War Doctor. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 14:13:16 GMT
I watched bits of the McCoy one. Oh, it's magical to see them together. Can't we have a spin off series with just the two of them?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 14:18:04 GMT
I downloaded a few episodes of the classic series from the Iplayer onto my Sky box. All good, though I seem to keep getting the "sign language" version. I'm unsure how to change it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 14:19:09 GMT
The Visitation seems to be the SD version rather than the HD version Britbox have on their site.
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