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Post by iank on Nov 1, 2023 21:42:23 GMT
Ace notes that he looks old, and he says it's because there's many different timelines the TARDIS has access to, some in which he regenerated and some where he didn't (and thus has just gotten older). To me it's practically admitting that New Who could be a different timeline than the proper show. Again, thanks Rusty!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 21:42:32 GMT
I mean, sure, we don't have to count it as canon, but that's Russell's intention. And that's the part that confuses me. Does he want it to be a cozy comfy talk show where all the characters wax lyrical about the good old days, or does he want it to be a genuine continuation of these people's stories? You can't have it both ways lmfao. Steven wouldn't be talking about how much he misses the Doctor, he'd first struggle to remember who Vicki is (it's been 60 years!) and then go on the warpath to find the Doctor. Probably to yell at him. Of course he'd remember who Vicki was. Unless you've had your memory wiped, I don't know how you could forget someone you travelled in time and space with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 21:46:49 GMT
I know what I'll be buying you all for Christmas Pretty sure they illegalised that a long time ago...
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 21:48:29 GMT
Ace notes that he looks old, and he says it's because there's many different timelines the TARDIS has access to, some in which he regenerated and some where he didn't (and thus has just gotten older). To me it's practically admitting that New Who could be a different timeline than the proper show. Again, thanks Rusty! FANTASTIC! That's all I need. THANK YOU RUSTY! I may be pissed at NPH but this genius of a man has now given us all the perfect out. All is forgiven LMAO.
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Post by rushy on Nov 1, 2023 21:49:27 GMT
In all seriousness, I found them incredibly heartwarming. They're fun little nostalgia trips for classic fans. They're not even part of the show so it doesn't change anything. Yeah, I didn't go into them expecting them to be canon. But if that's the case, then why bother giving them all these emotional speeches, and a convoluted explanation for why they're together? I don't know how I'm meant to engage with this material. Am I here to give a shit or not? If I'm here to give a shit, have them talk and act like they're supposed to. And if I'm not, don't yammer on and just get to the point. Like, just have Ace and Seven in a room together. Don't bother to explain it. They just meet up, talk casually about old times, that's it. Same with Five and Tegan. Make them less cuddly, none of that "I think about you every day" baloney that these people would never say. Just a sweet hug is enough. I don't need sugary speeches to understand these people mean something to each other. We all know the context. We wouldn't be watching if we didn't.
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Post by iank on Nov 1, 2023 21:49:47 GMT
Must admit, didn't expect RTD to give us the option of decanonising the entirety of New Who, but I'll take it!
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Post by rushy on Nov 1, 2023 21:50:42 GMT
Of course he'd remember who Vicki was. Unless you've had your memory wiped, I don't know how you could forget someone you travelled in time and space with. He was a young girl when they last met, and he never expected to see her again. He wouldn't immediately assume "oh yeah, Vicki somehow escaped from Ancient Greece and ended up in this weird room I'm in".
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 21:59:48 GMT
Must admit, didn't expect RTD to give us the option of decanonising the entirety of New Who, but I'll take it! Yes he has. DW wiki will now have to write this in that there were many timelines, which means Classic Who can fit snuggly into the timeline where 7 didn't regenerate. That's the classic who universe Oh Russell you beautiful f*cking man, this has saved DW more than anything else, and I'm not being an asshole to new who here. DW lore is a f*cking joke with all the 6 different Ace endings, Shalka, Death Comes to Time. Now they all fit. Of course it was an idea I'd been pushing for f*cking years and again got trashed for, meaning I might be bitter when the euphoria fades LOL, but still right now Bad Wolf Productions I could kiss you!
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 1, 2023 22:00:48 GMT
Of course he'd remember who Vicki was. Unless you've had your memory wiped, I don't know how you could forget someone you travelled in time and space with. He was a young girl when they last met, and he never expected to see her again. He wouldn't immediately assume "oh yeah, Vicki somehow escaped from Ancient Greece and ended up in this weird room I'm in". Don't you dare insult the work of our lord and savior Russell T Davies. That man knows his DW. God damn it why do we even let negative Nancy's like Rushy in here anyway?
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Post by zarius on Nov 2, 2023 6:03:01 GMT
The Seventh Doctor/Ace 'tale' reveals That the two had fallen out after an adventure with The Rani!
Considering the last TV screen adventure for the pair in the classic era was the 30th anniversary special Dimensions In Time, that was quite the dive...obviously they didn't part on bad terms at the end of that though, so they must mean another unseen adventure.. There hasn't been a new Rani adventure from Big Finish in ages though, maybe this will give them new ideas? They already have established a different incarnation of The Rani for their range after Kate O'Mara died
Ace's departure is revealed to have been very much like Tegans'...she saw one innocent death too many, and usually ones the manipulative Doctor was responsible for, they point to the business with Fenric as a matter they never truly resolved between them and it fed into their disagreements
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Post by iank on Nov 2, 2023 6:15:50 GMT
Must admit, didn't expect RTD to give us the option of decanonising the entirety of New Who, but I'll take it! Yes he has. DW wiki will now have to write this in that there were many timelines, which means Classic Who can fit snuggly into the timeline where 7 didn't regenerate. That's the classic who universe Oh Russell you beautiful f*cking man, this has saved DW more than anything else, and I'm not being an asshole to new who here. DW lore is a f*cking joke with all the 6 different Ace endings, Shalka, Death Comes to Time. Now they all fit. Of course it was an idea I'd been pushing for f*cking years and again got trashed for, meaning I might be bitter when the euphoria fades LOL, but still right now Bad Wolf Productions I could kiss you! It is kinda perfect. It explains why the 7th Doctor in the TVM is so dumb that he walks out into a street gang fight without even checking the scanner. Because it's not the same uberschemer 7th Doctor from classic Who. As Hunter might say, "Works for me".
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Post by ClockworkOcean on Nov 8, 2023 0:57:54 GMT
I'm not really interested in seeing the omnibus editions, but I watched the new McCoy/Aldred scenes, and it's an absolute joy to see them together again. The further undermining of NuWho's canonical status was a nice bonus too.
Sylvester needs to be given his own full-length spinoff before it's too late. He's only improved as an actor in the decades since the show was canceled, and is unique among the remaining classic Doctors in that all of his key writers are still alive and working.
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Post by zarius on Jun 5, 2024 17:11:28 GMT
A 75 minute edition of Tales of the TARDIS is to be aired on BBC FOUR on Thursday the 20th of June, the night before "Empire of Death" is due to drop
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Jun 5, 2024 18:35:43 GMT
A 75 minute edition of Tales of the TARDIS is to be aired on BBC FOUR on Thursday the 20th of June, the night before "Empire of Death" is due to drop Wonder if it will be a Pertwee story? I have this feeling Omega is going to be the big baddie of the finale.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2024 18:53:46 GMT
A 75 minute edition of Tales of the TARDIS is to be aired on BBC FOUR on Thursday the 20th of June, the night before "Empire of Death" is due to drop Wonder if it will be a Pertwee story? I have this feeling Omega is going to be the big baddie of the finale. I imagine it's also because the Memory TARDIS will feature in some way in the finale, as we've seen in a leaked trailer. In the Three Doctors episode of TotT, Clyde finds the Trickster's cube onboard, sort of fondles it, and the theme tune plays (the one that sounds similar to what Ruby sings in Devil's Chord), but neither mention it. That's surely too big a coincidence. Realistically Omega has to feature because what other villain "lurking since the Third Doctor's era" would be an adequate finale threat? But I definitely wouldn't be surprised if the Trickster was also involved. Who knows, maybe they're one and the same creature, perhaps the Trickster is a shadow of Omega projected into N-Space from the antimatter universe.
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