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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 8:55:58 GMT
Ian Levine has linked an article about this from The Mary Sue, a site that's just as delightful as Stef. I think everyone is losing the plot now.
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 21, 2023 9:07:26 GMT
This is one of those annoying things that's just going to drag on and on. I'm sure fandom's resident prat in a hat will poke his head into all this somehow. There is a rumor that there are missing episodes in private collectors hands and they hate fandom like Mr TARDIS, Josh Snares, Gallifrey Base, so much that they want to deprive them of it. Again as Iank said Ian Levine, for all his faults, found something like 60 episodes and saved many more, but gets told he is DW's resident c*nt, jokes about his weight and people laughing at having a stroke. To be honest private collectors might just not want to come to the attention of this insane fandom. Imagine if it's someone who has voted brexit or is a Trumper who found one of the tapes? They'll get insane abuse as a c*nt from the BeKind mob, told to go kill themselves, any type of income they had could be affected by these people boycotting etc. It's a very risky thing to get involved with the current iteration of Who fandom. What's even more funny is that for the older posters remember in the 00s when the Fitzroy Crowd took over the show and tried to justify their changes with "this will give DW back to mainstream audiences, and stop it from being just a niche thing for sad loser nerds. We need to fix DW's fandom's image." Ironically thanks to new who's influence the fandom has never been a more niche, exclusive little club that people actively want to avoid because it is dangerous.
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 21, 2023 9:09:18 GMT
Ian Levine has linked an article about this from The Mary Sue, a site that's just as delightful as Stef. I think everyone is losing the plot now. To be honest I hate the Mary Sue more than Stef. They did way more damage to Doctor Who and its fandom long term, and certainly to the genre. They are the c*nts who got Gina Carano fired too. All Coburn has done is block four episodes, which is annoying, but honestly they are far worse. It's hard to know who to root for. Where are all the good guys?
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Post by burrunjor on Oct 21, 2023 10:53:49 GMT
Ian has apologised now so we'll see if anything comes of that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 12:32:22 GMT
Ah f*ck he lives near me, and of course he advertises that he can play pretty much every instrument under the sun f*cking please He's absolutely f*cking lost it, like he probably has advanced psychosis or schizophrenia or something You guys should really read this Bandmix profile, it's a right treat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2023 12:57:26 GMT
This is one of those annoying things that's just going to drag on and on. I'm sure fandom's resident prat in a hat will poke his head into all this somehow. There is a rumor that there are missing episodes in private collectors hands and they hate fandom like Mr TARDIS, Josh Snares, Gallifrey Base, so much that they want to deprive them of it. I love this idea tbh, I know it's still a selfish act but I can't help thinking that I'd do the same. The world of art collectors is almost entirely removed from ours so I'm not surprised that they wouldn't want to bequeath elements of their collection to a bunch of sneering peasants who don't "appreciate film". On the other, and more likely, hand, most missing tapes are probably either rotting away in some long forlorn attic or gone entirely. I personally think the whole "private collector" aspect is overstated, promulgated disproportionally on forums to maintain current Dr Who fandom's "anti-authoritarian/rich white male" stance. There are probably 3 or 4 in the hands of collectors, but that still leaves about 90 completely off the map. Even if Philip Morris brings in another haul, which seems very unlikely, there'll always be huge gulfs in the 1st and 2nd Doctors' outputs. The fact of the matter is that most of these episodes are gone for good, or at least might as well be. I don't doubt that there are a bunch still out there, but the simple fact is that there just isn't enough of a global effort to bring them home. DW fandom is small, and a large swathe of it don't even know about let alone care for the classic era and its missing episodes. It's like a legless midget trying to find a needle in a barn full of haystacks. I also think a large part of the mystique of the 60s era is due to the missing episodes and sparse documentation, so there's always that to fall back on.
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Post by Spark Doll King on Oct 21, 2023 20:55:09 GMT
Here's an idea if this guy really wants to get one over on the BBC and not be a colossal c*nt to fans of the show. Take the rights and put them in the public domain. Then anyone can use the episodes and the BBC can do bugger all about it. I said that to him dozens of times but he insists he couldn't do that as they own the character of the Doctor. Still if he owns the story I think there must be some kind of wiggle room he could exploit, but he's not interested in that. He just cares about his daddy issues and now f*cking over Ian Levine who has managed to insert himself into the centre of this. I've got no idea how the whole thing works legally, but if he's got enough weight to stop the BBC from using those episodes, when they own the writes to the show and characters, then he shorly has enough right to chuck them into the public domain. His response reminds me of this moment from Watership Down... "At that moment, in the sunset on Watership Down, there was offered to General Woundwort the opportunity to show whether he was really the leader of vision and genius which he believed himself to be, or whether he was no more than a tyrant with the courage and cunning of a pirate. For one beat of his pulse the lame rabbit's idea shone clearly before him. He grasped it and realized what it meant. The next, he had pushed it away from him."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 19:18:44 GMT
Stef said he wasn't a fan of the show, but didn't "object" to the series until the "wokies reboot."
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2023 10:25:59 GMT
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Post by Spark Doll King on Oct 29, 2023 13:57:18 GMT
Tell the world to download them online and f*ck the this petty git and the BBC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2023 18:45:19 GMT
Not good enough, simply put. 3?? What prevents the BBC from putting them all up? This shit's been on YouTube for decades. Is it really so hard?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 14:32:26 GMT
The Beginning boxset can't be bought on Amazon at all. You can't even get a used copy, which is most unusual.
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Post by RobFilth on Nov 1, 2023 17:42:02 GMT
The Beginning boxset can't be bought on Amazon at all. You can't even get a used copy, which is most unusual. Is it worth money then? Is it worth me putting mine up on ebay?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 17:47:29 GMT
The Beginning boxset can't be bought on Amazon at all. You can't even get a used copy, which is most unusual. Is it worth money then? Is it worth me putting mine up on ebay? I'm not quite sure. According to HMV at least it will be back in stock soon on their site.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2023 17:48:29 GMT
The Beginning boxset can't be bought on Amazon at all. You can't even get a used copy, which is most unusual. Is it worth money then? Is it worth me putting mine up on ebay? Actually, some people on Ebay are selling their copies for £30-£40
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