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Post by zarius on Feb 15, 2023 15:46:52 GMT
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logopolitanicecream
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Post by logopolitanicecream on Feb 15, 2023 15:49:41 GMT
Quintessentially British to put forward an appeal to authority argument lol So you're prepared to take a contrary position to Rape Crisis UK, are you?
Tell you what, all you lot who reckon Barrowman's thoroughly normal and an all around "good egg", nip outside right now, find the nearest available female and flash your cock at her. You should feel comfortable doing this. If she objects, you can dismiss it as an "Appeal to Authority". 'So you're prepared to take a contrary position to this organisation that has a pretty serious and hardcore sounding name that I will now reiterate so as to make you sound like a nasty person?' Well, when you put it like that, I think it's only my duty that I should lol. And I didn't personally say any of that strawmanning you just did there, but whatever lol. I just think the appeal to authority fallacy (which is actually a thing, so I don't know why you're putting it in quotation marks as if I've just coined a new term lol) is so lame and it seems to be a fundamental aspect of modern British political and social discourse. Simply flashing someone, while not pleasant and not personally my idea of a good joke, is hardly on the level of rape. Sexual assault, sure, maybe, but even then it's on the far lower end of the scale. And I think if you were to ask the common man on the street, more people than you think would also agree with that. It's even less of a big deal in a situation where the vast majority of the people on-set go into the industry with the understanding that at some point they're going to encounter some measure of nudity. After a certain point it does indeed become a part of the job. I also love how we live in a culture where we empower women and tell them they're strong and powerful and indeed wiser than men, and then we simultaneously treat them with kid gloves and act like they must be protected by the slightest and most mundane unpleasantness. Pick one. |
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Post by Spark Doll King on Feb 15, 2023 16:32:20 GMT
Gatwa dosen’t look like he’s having fun. Eccles 2.0? |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Feb 15, 2023 17:15:16 GMT
'So you're prepared to take a contrary position to this organisation that has a pretty serious and hardcore sounding name that I will now reiterate so as to make you sound like a nasty person?' Rape Crisis UK is the leading UK charity working with victims of sexual assault. So, you don't recognise that they have any authority in these matters?
No. it isn't. Unless you're a rapist. LOL.
No, you didn't, i did. It was my recommendation to those of you who feel so morally secure in your defence of Barrowman. If you think it's all cool, fill yer boots. What are you waiting for..?
I put it in quotes because i was quoting you. Is this confusing?
No-one said it was. But it is a crime. You can, of course, feel free not not to recognise the authority of the law but that is the sort of attitude that tends to cause people trouble at some point or another.
Pick one what? This isn't just about mollycoddling women. This is about protecting people from sexual assault. Which cock would you like in your face..?
That's cock btw, not cork...
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Post by iank on Feb 15, 2023 21:12:12 GMT
Again, no one was being assaulted. Stop being ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 21:30:52 GMT
Is he running away from John Barrowman in that first photo? |
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 15, 2023 21:44:03 GMT
Quintessentially British to put forward an appeal to authority argument lol So you're prepared to take a contrary position to Rape Crisis UK, are you?
Tell you what, all you lot who reckon Barrowman's thoroughly normal and an all around "good egg", nip outside right now, find the nearest available female and flash your cock at her. You should feel comfortable doing this. If she objects, you can dismiss it as an "Appeal to Authority". That is an absolutely absurd strawman. Okay Uncle Deadly are you going to say Pat Troughton sexually assaulted Wendy Padbury by pulling down her skirt? That Colin physically assaulted Nicola Bryant by biting her arse? I believe you excused that by saying that they knew each other, why not give Barrowman the same luxury? I also guess Rik and Ade assaulted the crew by regularly mooning each other in front of them? That Will Mellor sexually assaulted Kathryn Drysdale? That Sarah Michelle Gellar is a pervert for exposing James Marsters? That Roger Moore should be condemned for dropping his pants to make his co-stars laugh? Matt for slapping Jenna Coleman on the bum? As I have said dozens of times, all of these instances we have actors who have to get intimate with each other in front of an entire crew, get naked in front of dozens of people, get very comfortable with each other for love scenes, fight scenes etc, and who joke around with each other in a way that would seem inappropriate in other environments, but not on a set where they've already in some instances had to get naked in front of each other, kiss each other etc. Barrowman's actions aren't even the worst as far as practical jokes go on set! He is only singled out because A/ the toxic DW fandom loves having the power to finish people over nothing B/ the show is run by sad middle aged men who want to get in with them and will throw anyone under the bus, C/ the only people not part of the toxic fandom, hate Barrowman for being part of the RTD mob and want to stick it to him to take down RTD, so they are calling him an abuser for things that other actors, including ones they admire have done dozens of times on sets. |
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 15, 2023 21:49:54 GMT
Again, no one was being assaulted. Stop being ridiculous. Agreed and if Barrowman is axed for this, other actors will be axed for similar things. For instance Ade Edmondson. All it will take is for someone to dig up an interview about him mooning Rik Mayall on the set of fittingly Bottom LOL, and he'll get the same treatment. That's why I defend Barrowman. It's not because I like him. I mean I thought he was quite good, but it's not even like he was one of my faves. Hell I used to love Allison Mack, but obvs I didn't even attempt to defend her. Barrowman however, by letting him be finished over this, you are helping to set a dangerous precedent. It's why I even said that NPH shouldn't be cancelled, (just that it is hypocritical of the Mary Sue to kiss his arse and cancel people for less.) Again I can't stand practical jokes, if I ran a set I'd stop that shit right away, but fact is actors joke around with each other as they have a very weird job, and get comfortable with each other more than other professions. It's not the same thing if Sarah Michelle Gellar tugs on James Marsters codpiece when she has had to roll around naked with him for literally hours, than if a woman just grabbed a guys dick at the office, and similarly if Barrowman shows his dick off as a joke, well it's not the same thing when he has already been naked for hours for a love scene, and again had to roll around with some of his co stars and had the crew watch him do all that for hours, as if I just walked around with my dick out in an office. Again I'd argue that what Barrowman did isn't even as much as picking Deborah Watling up and throwing her into foam, or actually BITING someone on the arse! Try doing those things in an office, or to some random person on the street. |
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Post by rushy on Feb 16, 2023 8:02:42 GMT
Gatwa dosen’t look like he’s having fun. Eccles 2.0? I think he's just freezing |
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logopolitanicecream
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Post by logopolitanicecream on Feb 16, 2023 10:32:20 GMT
'So you're prepared to take a contrary position to this organisation that has a pretty serious and hardcore sounding name that I will now reiterate so as to make you sound like a nasty person?' Rape Crisis UK is the leading UK charity working with victims of sexual assault. So, you don't recognise that they have any authority in these matters?
No. it isn't. Unless you're a rapist. LOL.
No, you didn't, i did. It was my recommendation to those of you who feel so morally secure in your defence of Barrowman. If you think it's all cool, fill yer boots. What are you waiting for..?
I put it in quotes because i was quoting you. Is this confusing?
No-one said it was. But it is a crime. You can, of course, feel free not not to recognise the authority of the law but that is the sort of attitude that tends to cause people trouble at some point or another.
Pick one what? This isn't just about mollycoddling women. This is about protecting people from sexual assault. Which cock would you like in your face..?
That's cock btw, not cork...
Now you're just being childish, as are the two twonks who upvoted you lol. |
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Post by RobFilth on Feb 16, 2023 10:51:19 GMT
Gatwa dosen’t look like he’s having fun. Eccles 2.0? Why have they made him look like Lenny Henry in that 80's sketch? |
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Post by RobFilth on Feb 16, 2023 10:53:45 GMT
Now you're just being childish, as are the two twonks who upvoted you lol. So long as twonks aren't bragging publically about sticking their cocks in my food, pissing in my garden and standing on a stage spraying their shite all over me, a bit of childishness is somewhat forgivable. |
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Post by RobFilth on Feb 16, 2023 11:00:04 GMT
I think his behaviour was lewd, immature and crass and not particularly funny but I'm not aware anyone claims to have been abused. I think we need to be fair in our use of language. Rani my good friend, the next time I decide to stand on a stage, bend over and spray shite all over you and brag about it to everyone afterwards, I'll remind you to be fair about the usuage of your responsive langugage afterwards. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Feb 16, 2023 11:24:37 GMT
Rape Crisis UK is the leading UK charity working with victims of sexual assault. So, you don't recognise that they have any authority in these matters?
No. it isn't. Unless you're a rapist. LOL.
No, you didn't, i did. It was my recommendation to those of you who feel so morally secure in your defence of Barrowman. If you think it's all cool, fill yer boots. What are you waiting for..?
I put it in quotes because i was quoting you. Is this confusing?
No-one said it was. But it is a crime. You can, of course, feel free not not to recognise the authority of the law but that is the sort of attitude that tends to cause people trouble at some point or another.
Pick one what? This isn't just about mollycoddling women. This is about protecting people from sexual assault. Which cock would you like in your face..?
That's cock btw, not cork...
Now you're just being childish, as are the two twonks who upvoted you lol. So, a complete failure to engage with or refute any of my points and immediate recourse to insults. The last refuge of a lost argument.
You're the only underdeveloped one here, mate.
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Post by logopolitanicecream on Feb 16, 2023 11:57:58 GMT
But there weren't any point made, just wisecracks and sarcasm...
I mean you're the one who here took on a needlessly antagonistic tone right from the start. All I did was point out that an appeal to authority is not the slam dunk argument you seemed to think it was.
Peace out.
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