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Post by RobFilth on Jun 14, 2022 0:19:56 GMT
Sorry, but no. Sophie's sold out bigtime. Nothing's tricking me into watching Pisstaker. Nor me.
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Post by zarius on Jun 14, 2022 9:54:29 GMT
Sorry, but no. Sophie's sold out bigtime. Nothing's tricking me into watching Pisstaker. Noone's 'sold out' or a 'traitor', Sophie has always been supportful of Doctor Who regardless of who stars in it or who runs it. Cast members are not interested in these nerdish grudges against the programme, all they see is an opportunity to entertain generations young and old, you'd have said the same bollocks if she had signed up for Sarah Jane Adventures like RTD had originally planned back in the day.
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Post by cyberhat on Jun 14, 2022 10:26:42 GMT
...and this is the same guy who hit the headlines for kicking up a fuss behind the scenes of Netflix's A Series of Unfortunate Events because he apparently thought the writers were crossing a line by asking him to speak a few lines in a mock Indian accent. They are trend chasers by nature. Now with this in mind, back in the late 00s it was trendy to show how edgy you were by being nasty to people. I blame South Park for this in all honesty. South Park's humour can get nasty and pathetic like their jokes against Barbara Streisand, but they do at least go after targets other people are not willing to go after, so I wouldn't call them trend chasers or cowards. Still yeah that became the trend, and as Amy was the medias punching bag, and thanks to actual misogyny and bigotry over mental health, morons thought she was fair game. Then she was a favourite for these trend chasers to go after, and as they wanted to out do all of the other trend chasers, they'd be utterly vile to her in the most insanely over the top ways. Flash forward to the 2010s however when it's now the trend to show how politically aware you are and white knight for trans people and all of Amy's most vicious critics are now woke feminists. This hits a nerve with me. Last year I found an old VHS tape from the early 2000's. Just had a random selection of entertainment from that time. Had a look out of curiosity, had to switch it off. Just relentless nastiness under the guise of light entertainment, The Weakest Link, X-Factor, Big Brother, They Think It's All Over, sadists becoming national treasures. And who was the most fiercest defender of this poison while all this was going on? RTD. The man that wanted to fight people who criticised Big Brother breaking people who've never been in the spotlight before. That told the BBC apologising for fixing Blue Peter competitions that they should "get a spine". He claimed at one point that there was not a single bad person working in the media.
A lot of these SJW people are really authoritarians. Which is why they have such a hard time when the little people complain. Most of whom aren't even left-wing, especially the ones in the media. As they all proved when we had a chance of getting a socialist in 10 Downing Street and they all wet their knickers trying to stop it for four years.
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Post by burrunjor on Jun 14, 2022 11:18:25 GMT
They are trend chasers by nature. Now with this in mind, back in the late 00s it was trendy to show how edgy you were by being nasty to people. I blame South Park for this in all honesty. South Park's humour can get nasty and pathetic like their jokes against Barbara Streisand, but they do at least go after targets other people are not willing to go after, so I wouldn't call them trend chasers or cowards. Still yeah that became the trend, and as Amy was the medias punching bag, and thanks to actual misogyny and bigotry over mental health, morons thought she was fair game. Then she was a favourite for these trend chasers to go after, and as they wanted to out do all of the other trend chasers, they'd be utterly vile to her in the most insanely over the top ways. Flash forward to the 2010s however when it's now the trend to show how politically aware you are and white knight for trans people and all of Amy's most vicious critics are now woke feminists. This hits a nerve with me. Last year I found an old VHS tape from the early 2000's. Just had a random selection of entertainment from that time. Had a look out of curiosity, had to switch it off. Just relentless nastiness under the guise of light entertainment, The Weakest Link, X-Factor, Big Brother, They Think It's All Over, sadists becoming national treasures. And who was the most fiercest defender of this poison while all this was going on? RTD. The man that wanted to fight people who criticised Big Brother breaking people who've never been in the spotlight before. That told the BBC apologising for fixing Blue Peter competitions that they should "get a spine". He claimed at one point that there was not a single bad person working in the media.
A lot of these SJW people are really authoritarians. Which is why they have such a hard time when the little people complain. Most of whom aren't even left-wing, especially the ones in the media. As they all proved when we had a chance of getting a socialist in 10 Downing Street and they all wet their knickers trying to stop it for four years.
The 2000s I think represented the ultimate regression of all the progress that we made in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Not saying those decades were perfect, but when you look at them you can see society, slowly, but surely improving. Homosexuality is legalized in the 60s. Now okay it should have been legalized LOOOOONG before that, but still at least by our own low standards that was a step forward. The 70s meanwhile built on that, with homosexuality/bisexuality even becoming a cool, trendy thing with the likes of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury and Lou Reed with his openly transgender girlfriend, singing songs about her like Walk on the Wild Side. Obviously the civil rights movement and women's lib made a lot of progress in those decades too, and economically things like the roads, the trains and resources were owned by the government and had to work for the people, rather than being owned by a monopoly. The NHS wasn't under constant attack. Winston Churchill, a right wing piece of shit still didn't try and destroy the NHS in the 50s. I know people are hot on the 80s now, and in terms of entertainment it was great. (Same in some respects with the 2000s which had the last great period of British music like Amy, Paloma etc.) Politically however the 80s was when it all started to fall apart for this country. It's when the poseurs like (P)Rick took over the left and made it a joke. It's when the right achieved huge victories in pretty much every area. Thatcher came along and introduced the most Draconian and Ayn Randian policies that attacked the most vulnerable in society, and even in terms of social attitudes, the acceptance of Homosexuality and transgender people took a nose dive back with the aids crisis being blamed on "deviant" homosexuals and Section 28 the first homophobic law passed in this country for over 100 years. It also marked the beginning of cancel culture, with Benny Hill being our first casualty. It also marked the beginning of mainstream feminism embracing the bullshit idea of any woman in power is good for women, with Thatcher, who despite being as right wing, and hawkish as any man actually got support from some feminists, on the virtue of being the first female prime minister. (This tactic has since been used to support other hawkish bastards like Obama, the Blair babes, Madeline Albright and Hillary Clinton.) It was also when sci fi was deemed uncool, pathetic, and something for sad basement dwellers and anything even remotely imaginative or thought provoking on British tv was to be sneered at and humiliated like DW. The 90s meanwhile would build upon this and destroy any kind of political comedy. Gone were the Rik Mayalls, the Monty Python types, who would actually push the boundaries. In their place were panel show c*nts, who would make the likes of Bo Jo look cuddly, and appear edgy by bullying media approved targets like Classic Who and Amy Winehouse. Then of course New Labour, a right wing alternative to leftist politics emerged throughout the 90s, and made sure that your choice really was "whoever you vote for the government gets in." It all reached a nadir in the 00s, which gave us the Iraq war, that was launched by former f*cking hippies like Blair, people with mental health problems like Amy being sneered at in public, sci fi only being allowed back on mainstream tv as long as it showed that it wasn't sci fi anymore, comedy being both more toothless and nastier than it had ever been before, and the gap between the rich and the poor ever widening. Believe it or not as bad as the 10s were with the SJW crap, I think in some ways it did see a few improvements. The fact that Corbyn was the leader of the Labour party and did get genuine support showed that perhaps things could change. Sadly however it wasn't to last and it looks like it was only a temporary lapse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 12:04:32 GMT
I want NuWho to be shit. It's better that way. I hope it continues to spiral to unprecedented levels of embarssemenet. Sorry, but as a McCoy fan who has had to put up with so much shit from people, particularly NuWho fans using it as a scapegoat, I want to see it all to suck.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2022 12:06:44 GMT
Sorry, but no. Sophie's sold out bigtime. Nothing's tricking me into watching Pisstaker. Noone's 'sold out' or a 'traitor', Sophie has always been supportful of Doctor Who regardless of who stars in it or who runs it. Cast members are not interested in these nerdish grudges against the programme, all they see is an opportunity to entertain generations young and old, you'd have said the same bollocks if she had signed up for Sarah Jane Adventures like RTD had originally planned back in the day. Hmmm that sounds a lot like traitor talk to me, Zarius. What else are you hiding from us?
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Post by cyberhat on Jun 14, 2022 16:33:59 GMT
Not saying those decades were perfect, but when you look at them you can see society, slowly, but surely improving. Homosexuality is legalized in the 60s. Now okay it should have been legalized LOOOOONG before that, but still at least by our own low standards that was a step forward. The 70s meanwhile built on that, with homosexuality/bisexuality even becoming a cool, trendy thing with the likes of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury and Lou Reed with his openly transgender girlfriend, singing songs about her like Walk on the Wild Side. Obviously the civil rights movement and women's lib made a lot of progress in those decades too, and economically things like the roads, the trains and resources were owned by the government and had to work for the people, rather than being owned by a monopoly. The NHS wasn't under constant attack. Winston Churchill, a right wing piece of shit still didn't try and destroy the NHS in the 50s. I know people are hot on the 80s now, and in terms of entertainment it was great. (Same in some respects with the 2000s which had the last great period of British music like Amy, Paloma etc.) Politically however the 80s was when it all started to fall apart for this country. It's when the poseurs like (P)Rick took over the left and made it a joke. It's when the right achieved huge victories in pretty much every area. Thatcher came along and introduced the most Draconian and Ayn Randian policies that attacked the most vulnerable in society, and even in terms of social attitudes, the acceptance of Homosexuality and transgender people took a nose dive back with the aids crisis being blamed on "deviant" homosexuals and Section 28 the first homophobic law passed in this country for over 100 years. It also marked the beginning of cancel culture, with Benny Hill being our first casualty. It also marked the beginning of mainstream feminism embracing the bullshit idea of any woman in power is good for women, with Thatcher, who despite being as right wing, and hawkish as any man actually got support from some feminists, on the virtue of being the first female prime minister. (This tactic has since been used to support other hawkish bastards like Obama, the Blair babes, Madeline Albright and Hillary Clinton.) It was also when sci fi was deemed uncool, pathetic, and something for sad basement dwellers and anything even remotely imaginative or thought provoking on British tv was to be sneered at and humiliated like DW. The 90s meanwhile would build upon this and destroy any kind of political comedy. Gone were the Rik Mayalls, the Monty Python types, who would actually push the boundaries. In their place were panel show c*nts, who would make the likes of Bo Jo look cuddly, and appear edgy by bullying media approved targets like Classic Who and Amy Winehouse. Then of course New Labour, a right wing alternative to leftist politics emerged throughout the 90s, and made sure that your choice really was "whoever you vote for the government gets in." It all reached a nadir in the 00s, which gave us the Iraq war, that was launched by former f*cking hippies like Blair, people with mental health problems like Amy being sneered at in public, sci fi only being allowed back on mainstream tv as long as it showed that it wasn't sci fi anymore, comedy being both more toothless and nastier than it had ever been before, and the gap between the rich and the poor ever widening. Believe it or not as bad as the 10s were with the SJW crap, I think in some ways it did see a few improvements. The fact that Corbyn was the leader of the Labour party and did get genuine support showed that perhaps things could change. Sadly however it wasn't to last and it looks like it was only a temporary lapse. This post is so good I may have a T-shirt printed of it.
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Post by burrunjor on Jun 14, 2022 18:49:12 GMT
Not saying those decades were perfect, but when you look at them you can see society, slowly, but surely improving. Homosexuality is legalized in the 60s. Now okay it should have been legalized LOOOOONG before that, but still at least by our own low standards that was a step forward. The 70s meanwhile built on that, with homosexuality/bisexuality even becoming a cool, trendy thing with the likes of David Bowie, Freddie Mercury and Lou Reed with his openly transgender girlfriend, singing songs about her like Walk on the Wild Side. Obviously the civil rights movement and women's lib made a lot of progress in those decades too, and economically things like the roads, the trains and resources were owned by the government and had to work for the people, rather than being owned by a monopoly. The NHS wasn't under constant attack. Winston Churchill, a right wing piece of shit still didn't try and destroy the NHS in the 50s. I know people are hot on the 80s now, and in terms of entertainment it was great. (Same in some respects with the 2000s which had the last great period of British music like Amy, Paloma etc.) Politically however the 80s was when it all started to fall apart for this country. It's when the poseurs like (P)Rick took over the left and made it a joke. It's when the right achieved huge victories in pretty much every area. Thatcher came along and introduced the most Draconian and Ayn Randian policies that attacked the most vulnerable in society, and even in terms of social attitudes, the acceptance of Homosexuality and transgender people took a nose dive back with the aids crisis being blamed on "deviant" homosexuals and Section 28 the first homophobic law passed in this country for over 100 years. It also marked the beginning of cancel culture, with Benny Hill being our first casualty. It also marked the beginning of mainstream feminism embracing the bullshit idea of any woman in power is good for women, with Thatcher, who despite being as right wing, and hawkish as any man actually got support from some feminists, on the virtue of being the first female prime minister. (This tactic has since been used to support other hawkish bastards like Obama, the Blair babes, Madeline Albright and Hillary Clinton.) It was also when sci fi was deemed uncool, pathetic, and something for sad basement dwellers and anything even remotely imaginative or thought provoking on British tv was to be sneered at and humiliated like DW. The 90s meanwhile would build upon this and destroy any kind of political comedy. Gone were the Rik Mayalls, the Monty Python types, who would actually push the boundaries. In their place were panel show c*nts, who would make the likes of Bo Jo look cuddly, and appear edgy by bullying media approved targets like Classic Who and Amy Winehouse. Then of course New Labour, a right wing alternative to leftist politics emerged throughout the 90s, and made sure that your choice really was "whoever you vote for the government gets in." It all reached a nadir in the 00s, which gave us the Iraq war, that was launched by former f*cking hippies like Blair, people with mental health problems like Amy being sneered at in public, sci fi only being allowed back on mainstream tv as long as it showed that it wasn't sci fi anymore, comedy being both more toothless and nastier than it had ever been before, and the gap between the rich and the poor ever widening. Believe it or not as bad as the 10s were with the SJW crap, I think in some ways it did see a few improvements. The fact that Corbyn was the leader of the Labour party and did get genuine support showed that perhaps things could change. Sadly however it wasn't to last and it looks like it was only a temporary lapse. This post is so good I may have a T-shirt printed of it. Haha thanks. I think the 70s acceptance of homosexuality being followed by the homophobia of the next few decades is something that really needs to not be forgotten about. Everybody likes to paint the 70s as the worst post war decade and being full of homophobia, misogyny and racism, and yeah by today's standards it was. Still at the time it actually represented many significant steps forward, and the fact that within ten years we went back the way on this very serious issue shows that we don't always just progress. Of course the fall of the Roman Empire is probably a bigger example of humanity going back the way LOL, but that was obviously much more dramatic. The difference in attitudes towards gays and transgender people in the 70s compared to the 80s and the 90s shows you how humans don't need a big, catastrophic fall to regress. People who go "oh they'd never get away with that now." Actually maybe in ten years they will? We like to think "Oh someone like Amy Winehouse wouldn't get bullied for her mental health, you wouldn't see trans characters portrayed as limping, freaky comedy characters anymore." But how do people know that in ten years all this SJW crap might not push people back the way? It made me laugh when there was a meltdown from conservatives like that vile Candace Owens woman over Harry Styles wearing a dress being awful and threatening to destroy men. Yeah because rock stars were never girly or wore dresses or subverted gender stereotypes did they? Lou Reed and his transgender girlfriend that he lived with for four years and wrote classics like walk on the wild side about "shaved her legs and now he was a she." Freddie Mercury being the manliest man of all time LOL. David Bowie being even manlier! Ironically one could argue that we're still not as okay with this kind of stuff as we were in the 70s in some ways, as if any of these guys were around now, they'd get called woke morons and be the subject of a shouty Paul Joseph Watson video. "This new song walk on the wild side is a classic example of stupid, whiny butt hurt marxists trying to brainwash us into thinking that gender is just a social construct!" I hate SJWs and poseur lefties as much as the next guy and will always call them out, but things like this I think should always serve as a lesson to never let the backlash get too far which sadly I've seen happen with a lot of people. I'm not directing this at anyone here in particular by the way LOL, it's just something I think we could all remember and the SJWs themselves don't help it with their crap about "Jodie is the first female hero, this show is the first transgender led bit of entertainment." etc. You cannot erase the past.
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Post by burrunjor on Jun 14, 2022 20:31:21 GMT
Mr Tardis is being a little turd again. He is going after Mecha Random, accusing her of being homophobic because she called this vile Harris a diversity hire. Now I admit I don't think he is, but still isn't it funny how this little turd is choosing to pick on her, and sending his followers after her because he can make out she is homophobic, but when I bring up his hypocrisy over Gina Carano and Neil Patrick Harris, he deletes my comment pointing it out? Yeah shilbee what about when I brought up that this guy you are championing and going out of your way to defend, posted this? Whilst you were jumping for joy at a woman who at worst made a "this is how Nazi Germany started" post getting fired and blacklisted? Why did you delete that post from your channel instead of taking a screenshot, showing it to your followers and owning me with that legendary wit of yours? Could it be because I had you by the balls and you know what a hypocritical little shit you are, and like Neil Patrick Harris you're a bully who loves to use identity politics to further your career and try and humiliate other people? That's it isn't it?
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Post by iank on Jun 14, 2022 21:16:43 GMT
The latest set photos from Bristol (of a Toymaker's Emporium set) seem to pretty much confirm who Harris is playing!
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Post by cyberhat on Jun 14, 2022 21:43:55 GMT
I hate SJWs and poseur lefties as much as the next guy and will always call them out, but things like this I think should always serve as a lesson to never let the backlash get too far which sadly I've seen happen with a lot of people. I'm not directing this at anyone here in particular by the way LOL, it's just something I think we could all remember and the SJWs themselves don't help it with their crap about "Jodie is the first female hero, this show is the first transgender led bit of entertainment." etc. You cannot erase the past. I think a lot of daftness on the left is down to infiltration by the security services. Getting in to positions of influence and pushing idiotic stances to devalue the movement as a whole.
There is a great people fighting for social change. I have huge admiration for the gay rights groups that joined up with striking miners in the 80's. In fact, it should be a template. Social issues matched with economic issues. Separating them is just establishment poodlism. You end up with, well..
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Post by burrunjor on Jun 15, 2022 9:43:58 GMT
I hate SJWs and poseur lefties as much as the next guy and will always call them out, but things like this I think should always serve as a lesson to never let the backlash get too far which sadly I've seen happen with a lot of people. I'm not directing this at anyone here in particular by the way LOL, it's just something I think we could all remember and the SJWs themselves don't help it with their crap about "Jodie is the first female hero, this show is the first transgender led bit of entertainment." etc. You cannot erase the past. I think a lot of daftness on the left is down to infiltration by the security services. Getting in to positions of influence and pushing idiotic stances to devalue the movement as a whole.
There is a great people fighting for social change. I have huge admiration for the gay rights groups that joined up with striking miners in the 80's. In fact, it should be a template. Social issues matched with economic issues. Separating them is just establishment poodlism. You end up with, well..
Personally I don't think we need the CIA to infiltrate leftist cliques. Sadly I think a lot of people are just so tribal that they will jump to the worst extremes on their own. There was a youtuber by the name of Simon Harris who I watched a while back. He started out reasonable. He was critical of Islam and the left's molly coddling of it compared to their edge lord stance against Christianity, but he never tarred all Muslims as being terrorists or anything like that in the beginning. However within a year as he started to read more from genuinely racist critics of Islam, he dove head first into race realism, Jewish communists wanting to take over the world, Nelson Mandela being the bad guy against the Apartheid regime, interracial couples being disgusting. He even mentioned watching a young interracial couple with disgust in one video. Can you imagine being a young couple in love and having this random middle aged guy staring at you disapprovingly because he thinks your corrupting the gene pool LOL. Funny thing is he mentioned when he was younger in the 80s being in a reggae band. He was clearly one of these insufferable twats who thought that because he had a black girlfriend that made him Martin Luther King, or because he loved soul music that made him a soul brother, a black man in a white man's body. Flash forward thirty years however and he's now joined another tribe that tells him that black people have on average lower IQs and should be shunned from the rest of us. Sadly I think a lot of people are like him. They genuinely don't question what they are told, and they are so desperate to belong to a little tribe, and prove that their tribe is the best one. Tribalism is the real enemy of humanity more than anything else. That's why I am neither on the left or the right, and I am NOT a centrist either as they are all tribes. If I had to describe myself for practicality sake, I'd say left, but ultimately, tribes are never a good idea when it comes to politics. Simone Harris shows you how quick and easy it can be to radicalise some people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2022 11:30:51 GMT
It was fine for MrTARDIS to tear Hell Bent a new arse, but now he's so defensive about the show getting any sort of criticism. Hypocrite.
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Post by zarius on Jun 15, 2022 12:58:17 GMT
Noone's 'sold out' or a 'traitor', Sophie has always been supportful of Doctor Who regardless of who stars in it or who runs it. Cast members are not interested in these nerdish grudges against the programme, all they see is an opportunity to entertain generations young and old, you'd have said the same bollocks if she had signed up for Sarah Jane Adventures like RTD had originally planned back in the day. Hmmm that sounds a lot like traitor talk to me, Zarius. What else are you hiding from us? Sorry guys, sometimes my enthusiasm makes me act rather prickly, I love the place really on a clear day.
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Post by zarius on Jun 15, 2022 19:40:08 GMT
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