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Post by burrunjor on Jan 19, 2022 13:43:34 GMT
Brilliant post. I didn't want to join in the Rob and Rani argument not only because it is amusing from the sides, but also because I didn't want it to seem like GB where everybody dogpiles on someone. I know no one has acted like anyone on GB. (Even when Rob intentionally trolls Rani, claiming that David Tennant is carrying out incest by marrying Georgia Moffat LOL, he STILL isn't as unreasonable as the likes of Loonyboyx, Culfy, and Peter Nolan.) Still given my experiences I am always conscious of that, but still I have to say brilliant list of Blair's many, many failures, many of which are often overlooked because the Iraq War naturally tends to dominate all discussions about him. Even without the war he'd still be among the worst Prime Ministers this country ever had. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jan 19, 2022 13:50:17 GMT
Brilliant post. I didn't want to join in the Rob and Rani argument not only because it is amusing from the sides, but also because I didn't want it to seem like GB where everybody dogpiles on someone. I know no one has acted like anyone on GB. (Even when Rob intentionally trolls Rani, claiming that David Tennant is carrying out incest by marrying Georgia Moffat LOL, he STILL isn't as unreasonable as the likes of Loonyboyx, Culfy, and Peter Nolan.) Still given my experiences I am always conscious of that, but still I have to say brilliant list of Blair's many, many failures, many of which are often overlooked because the Iraq War naturally tends to dominate all discussions about him. Even without the war he'd still be among the worst Prime Ministers this country ever had. Thanks, burrunjor. To be fair, I do like Rani and I find his presence on here highly amusing, charming and amiable (despite disagreeing with him on many things). I wouldn't ever want to discourage him from posting. The post was mostly just a repudiation of the prevailing narrative that the Blair government was somehow radical, divorced from the neoliberal consensus or helped the vulnerable within society, because it openly went out of its way to discredit or demonise such people, even when it had the chance to change the prevailing narrative when in power, hence the dramatically reduced electoral turnout during his tenure as PM. |
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Post by RobFilth on Jan 20, 2022 10:26:52 GMT
Even when Rob intentionally trolls Rani, claiming that David Tennant is carrying out incest by marrying Georgia Moffat LOL Cosplaying incest, there IS a difference. |
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Post by RobFilth on Jan 20, 2022 10:29:24 GMT
Hooray! Rani's finally made the post count to reach "Regular Weirdo" ranking!  Congratulations my dear Rani! See? With a little bit of effort you CAN make a difference on here! Just think, you only now need to DOUBLE the nonsense you spout on here to join the ranks of being a "Certified Mob Rallying Heretic Crank"! Fill your boots. A bit rich coming from someone who is beyond creepy It's " *beyond* creepy " actually, there IS a difference. I dunno, that's the gratitude I get for offering postal encouragement to Rani! Charming! |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jan 20, 2022 10:54:50 GMT
It's " *beyond* creepy " actually, there IS a difference. I dunno, that's the gratitude I get for offering postal encouragent to Rani! Charming! Did he ever get his Jodie socks...? |
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Post by RobFilth on Jan 20, 2022 14:30:51 GMT
It's " *beyond* creepy " actually, there IS a difference. I dunno, that's the gratitude I get for offering postal encouragement to Rani! Charming! Did he ever get his Jodie socks...? The offer transpired when he snubbed my kind generous offer, the ingrate! |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jan 20, 2022 15:41:30 GMT
Did he ever get his Jodie socks...? The offer transpired when he snubbed my kind generous offer, the ingrate! Typical. I still haven't received any thanks for my open-minded attitude to Rani's right-wing convictions...! |
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Post by RobFilth on Jan 20, 2022 15:54:20 GMT
The offer transpired when he snubbed my kind generous offer, the ingrate! Typical. I still haven't received any thanks for my open-minded attitude to Rani's right-wing convictions...! Me neither, I've been completely open to the fact that he thinks International Law Breaking and murdering over a million brown people is perfectly acceptible so long as you repeatedly yell, "Sure Start" |
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Post by mistressrani on Jan 20, 2022 16:30:04 GMT
The offer transpired when he snubbed my kind generous offer, the ingrate! Typical. I still haven't received any thanks for my open-minded attitude to Rani's right-wing convictions...! That's because I suspect you're so far right you'd probably make Thatcher blush  |
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Post by mistressrani on Jan 20, 2022 16:32:50 GMT
Typical. I still haven't received any thanks for my open-minded attitude to Rani's right-wing convictions...! Me neither, I've been completely open to the fact that he thinks International Law Breaking and murdering over a million brown people is perfectly acceptible so long as you repeatedly yell, "Sure Start" He hasn't been found to have broken any 'international law' that I'm aware of. I agree he f*cked up on Iraq and should have resigned but I don't buy these black and white interpretations of politicians like Blair. You clearly are incapable of shades of grey and looking at people's record more broadly. Sir Tony's record - both good and bad - can be debated but it is never going to be as simple as many make out. |
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Post by mistressrani on Jan 20, 2022 16:35:04 GMT
Did he ever get his Jodie socks...? The offer transpired when he snubbed my kind generous offer, the ingrate! Didn't want to get involved with any of Filth's clothing related shennanigans after his white gym short escapades on the late 2000s. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jan 20, 2022 17:03:22 GMT
Typical. I still haven't received any thanks for my open-minded attitude to Rani's right-wing convictions...! That's because I suspect you're so far right you'd probably make Thatcher blush So, i'd have to be extreme-right in order to be accommodating enough to find your views acceptable? Got it, Rani. |
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Post by RobFilth on Jan 20, 2022 18:07:41 GMT
Me neither, I've been completely open to the fact that he thinks International Law Breaking and murdering over a million brown people is perfectly acceptible so long as you repeatedly yell, "Sure Start" He hasn't been found to have broken any 'international law' that I'm aware of. I agree he fokked up on Iraq and should have resigned but I don't buy these black and white interpretations of politicians like Blair. You clearly are incapable of shades of grey and looking at people's record more broadly. Sir Tony's record - both good and bad - can be debated but it is never going to be as simple as many make out. He didn't bother to wait for a UN resolution to authorize force, therefore he broke International Law, the Chicott Report makes that quite clear. You probably approve of North Koreas International Law Breaking too. You're right, on domestic policy Blair was probably worse, saddling the NHS budgets with private debt from loan sharks, academising schools, making higher education unaffordable for the least well off with tuition fees, failure to build any social housing(less builds than Thatcher), overseeing an artificially inflated property boom, locking whole generations out of mortgages and making rents unaffordable, blowing great chunks out of the welfare state with benefit sanctions and cruel exploitative workfare, hiring ATOS to persecute the sick and disabled, overseeing control freakery with the surviellance state and orwellian type hyper spin-doctoring with complete media compliance whereby no one can trust a f*cking word any politician says these days either side of the political spectrum now. Never mind, if we all repeat "Sure start" enough times, a magical fairy will come out of the mirror wave her magic wand and magic away a million brown people being murdered and make it all alright again. |
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Post by mistressrani on Jan 21, 2022 10:19:20 GMT
He hasn't been found to have broken any 'international law' that I'm aware of. I agree he fokked up on Iraq and should have resigned but I don't buy these black and white interpretations of politicians like Blair. You clearly are incapable of shades of grey and looking at people's record more broadly. Sir Tony's record - both good and bad - can be debated but it is never going to be as simple as many make out. He didn't bother to wait for a UN resolution to authorize force, therefore he broke International Law, the Chicott Report makes that quite clear. You probably approve of North Koreas International Law Breaking too. You're right, on domestic policy Blair was probably worse, saddling the NHS budgets with private debt from loan sharks, academising schools, making higher education unaffordable for the least well off with tuition fees, failure to build any social housing(less builds than Thatcher), overseeing an artificially inflated property boom, locking whole generations out of mortgages and making rents unaffordable, blowing great chunks out of the welfare state with benefit sanctions and cruel exploitative workfare, hiring ATOS to persecute the sick and disabled, overseeing control freakery with the surviellance state and orwellian type hyper spin-doctoring with complete media compliance whereby no one can trust a f*cking word any politician says these days either side of the political spectrum now. Never mind, if we all repeat "Sure start" enough times, a magical fairy will come out of the mirror wave her magic wand and magic away a million brown people being murdered and make it all alright again. You dismiss and mock Sure Start but I know people who said that made a real difference in transforming their lives. See also: Introduced the National Minimum Wage Increased school funding Writing off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries. Devolution Paternity leave Restored city-wide government to London. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission. Winter fuel payment to pensioners First ever Climate Change Act. Northern Ireland peace. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships. Banned fox hunting. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution. Free TV licences for over-75s. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70. Free eye test for over 60s. Free entry to national museums and galleries. Overseas aid budget more than doubled. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds. You could thank Sir Tony for these but clearly would have preferred John Major and William Hague leading a Tory government. |
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Post by RobFilth on Jan 21, 2022 21:42:42 GMT
He didn't bother to wait for a UN resolution to authorize force, therefore he broke International Law, the Chicott Report makes that quite clear. You probably approve of North Koreas International Law Breaking too. You're right, on domestic policy Blair was probably worse, saddling the NHS budgets with private debt from loan sharks, academising schools, making higher education unaffordable for the least well off with tuition fees, failure to build any social housing(less builds than Thatcher), overseeing an artificially inflated property boom, locking whole generations out of mortgages and making rents unaffordable, blowing great chunks out of the welfare state with benefit sanctions and cruel exploitative workfare, hiring ATOS to persecute the sick and disabled, overseeing control freakery with the surviellance state and orwellian type hyper spin-doctoring with complete media compliance whereby no one can trust a f*cking word any politician says these days either side of the political spectrum now. Never mind, if we all repeat "Sure start" enough times, a magical fairy will come out of the mirror wave her magic wand and magic away a million brown people being murdered and make it all alright again. You dismiss and mock Sure Start but I know people who said that made a real difference in transforming their lives. See also: Introduced the National Minimum Wage Increased school funding Writing off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries. Devolution Paternity leave Restored city-wide government to London. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission. Winter fuel payment to pensioners First ever Climate Change Act. Northern Ireland peace. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships. Banned fox hunting. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution. Free TV licences for over-75s. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70. Free eye test for over 60s. Free entry to national museums and galleries. Overseas aid budget more than doubled. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds. You could thank Sir Tony for these but clearly would have preferred John Major and William Hague leading a Tory government. No, I would have prefered a proper Labour Government which closed the gulf between rich and poor rather than widen it further. All that gumpf is just trimmings around the edges. www.theguardian.com/society/2004/aug/02/socialexclusion.politics |
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