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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 12, 2021 14:03:38 GMT
About time they returned. I mean, they've been absent from the series for, what, three or four stories? And they've been completely misused in every single one for the last 14 years, with a single exception. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 14:08:20 GMT
About time they returned. I mean, they've been absent from the series for, what, three or four stories? And they've been completely misused in every single one for the last 14 years, with a single exception. In my head, all of the Cybermen were destroyed in Silver Nemesis just like the Daleks were in Remembrance. Nothing after matters to me. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 12, 2021 14:19:50 GMT
WT actual F???
There simply are not enough fokks or canutes to adequately respond to this statement...
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 12, 2021 14:23:50 GMT
First time I've liked every post in a thread LOL. I can't really add to what everyone else has said.
It seems that after New Who got shat on for using the Daleks Every. Single. Year. Their response wasn't "okay let's come up with new monsters." It was lets just reuse the Cybermen and the Master.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 12, 2021 14:38:52 GMT
lets just reuse the Cybermen and the Master. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 12, 2021 14:49:28 GMT
"...WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS!!!"
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 12, 2021 15:19:55 GMT
WT actual F???
There simply are not enough fokks or canutes to adequately respond to this statement...
I was going to react to that myself before I got temporarily sidetracked- f.uck me, how the man has the audacity to make that kind of statement is beyond me. Who does he think he is? Does he think he's filming a re-rendition of Solaris (1972) or 2001: A Space Odyssey? When has New Who ever given its audience time to think? It's got no interest in ambiguity because it's so preoccupied with its abject pandering. This is probably the most Orwellian thing he's ever come out with. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 12, 2021 15:23:15 GMT
"...WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS!!!" What was it Barry Letts used to say about his tenure? "All we were trying to do was get it out on a Saturday". It summarises the difference in ego and humility between the two of them- one wonders what he'd have made of Chibnall... |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 12, 2021 15:33:07 GMT
First time I've liked every post in a thread LOL. I can't really add to what everyone else has said. It seems that after New Who got shat on for using the Daleks Every. Single. Year. Their response wasn't "okay let's come up with new monsters." It was lets just reuse the Cybermen and the Master. I'd love it if they went into genuinely ambitious conceptual territory, as with much of season 18, Kinda, Ghost Light etc (even the Fox superhero series "Legion" is far more Kubrickian in its aesthetic and narrative structure than this rubbish), yet they seem to have no clue how to do it. They have absolutely no sodding choice whatsoever but to replicate the same ideas and conceits every season, never veering into new territory and never altering the aesthetic of the programme. It doesn't need to be masterful- just halfway competent and creative, but they can't even muster the will to think of a different bloody monster! This is the epitome of manufactured TV. Pump out the same shit every year, and hope the audience are gullible enough to not notice. I haven't known a series this bereft of ideas before. It's honestly staggering. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2021 19:03:48 GMT
I just read that apparently this story and the next reveal that there is a planet called time and that is where all of time comes from. LMAO this is honestly sub bad fan fic. If thats true then the writing staff for this show are even more intellectually bankrupt then I thought. I mean ok, there is some silly stuff in the classic era, but there's a big fing difference between a bit of silly 60's sci-fi and utter rubbish a child could come up with for free. |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 12, 2021 19:24:21 GMT
I just read that apparently this story and the next reveal that there is a planet called time and that is where all of time comes from. LMAO this is honestly sub bad fan fic. If thats true then the writing staff for this show are even more intellectually bankrupt then I thought. I mean ok, there is some silly stuff in the classic era, but there's a big fing difference between a bit of silly 60's sci-fi and utter rubbish a child could come up with for free. It is true. At least the planet time bit. It's already appeared from what I'm told. www.inverse.com/entertainment/doctor-who-flux-time-travel-canon#:~:text=What%20is%20Doctor%20Who's%20planet,creation%20within%20the%20show's%20universe. |
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Post by iank on Nov 12, 2021 21:01:27 GMT
Capaldi's been taking shots at New Poo again, noting that the Doctor is now a "cosmic imp" and that he doesn't think the brand supports his (and the original) style of Doctor anymore. He's going to do an Eccles one of these days.  |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 13, 2021 14:04:10 GMT
Capaldi's been taking shots at New Poo again, noting that the Doctor is now a "cosmic imp" and that he doesn't think the brand supports his (and the original) style of Doctor anymore. He's going to do an Eccles one of these days. Yeah, i think this has been on the cards for a while. He's clearly not happy. His idea of how to play the Doctor (well, Colin Baker's, really  ) was never supported by the scripts and was abandoned after five minutes. That and the fact that Big Finish have resorted to hiring a Twelfth Doctor impersonator is pretty revealing.
Bring on the dirt, i say; it's about time Moffat got a good kicking. Aside from the Dracula viewing figures....
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Post by Monster X on Nov 13, 2021 15:47:18 GMT
Capaldi's been taking shots at New Poo again, noting that the Doctor is now a "cosmic imp" and that he doesn't think the brand supports his (and the original) style of Doctor anymore. He's going to do an Eccles one of these days.
"I wanted to be a more distant and alien Doctor. Because that’s how I remember [first Doctor] William Hartnell, being a kid in Glasgow on dark winter nights when this strange figure with the white hair and slightly irate voice could open this portal to a magical world. The default now is a kind of cosmic imp. Which is great. But I wanted to touch the dark winter nights. I’m not sure whether the brand supports that any more, but that’s what I was interested in.”I agree with PC on (most of) this, but 'cosmic imp' sounds far more interesting/fun/appealing than the standard wacky, zany, fast-talking Tennanty stereotype of the modern series. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 13, 2021 15:47:30 GMT
It'd be good if Matt Smith started taking potshots as well, although he's wisely divorced himself from NuWho altogether for quite some time now. I liked his Doctor, his first series (with some obvious exceptions) and the odd instalment that followed (discounting the appalling arcs that dominated later on), but he got utterly shafted too in the long stretch with some painful low points. Similar to Eccleston (who I maintain was more miscast than Moffat's Doctors, however), I reckon both Smith and Capaldi are highly principled individuals (and good actors in their own right), and it'd be interesting if they both aired their true thoughts.
It's interesting how toxic the environment surrounding NuWho seems to generally be. You have Noel Clarke behaving like an abject predator and Barrowman behaving like a sleazy twat, both of which very likely encouraged Eccleston's departure, and you have Smith and Capaldi effectively leaving unceremoniously despite initially wanting to commit to several more seasons, suggestive that there was more going on there than initially apparent.
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) was never supported by the scripts and was abandoned after five minutes. That and the fact that Big Finish have resorted to hiring a Twelfth Doctor impersonator is pretty revealing.