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Post by burrunjor on Sept 24, 2021 14:47:12 GMT
Well I have officially given up on the franchise for good now. I can't be bothered with anything DW related now. What's the point? This is the final death knell for the classic era and I'll tell you why. This will probably be successful.
RTD at least can connect with the public, unlike Chibs or even Moffhack who by the end at least were both total disasters. Sadly RTD will win round the general fans and ensure this shit stain goes on for another ten years. With the writers having now done everything they could to destroy its continuity and character, RTD can get away with even more rubbish. One can only shudder to think what he'll do with the Master. This will ensure yet another generation is introduced to the show this way.
Sadly the original will be eclipsed by this sea of shit. And to think we were THIS close to New Who finishing and something new coming along. It also shows that we really will have to pry the show out of the cold dead hands of the Fitzroy Crowd too. Can't these canutes give someone else a go for once?
Really, really sad, not going to lie. This is the official death of DW now for me. Going to go watch Primeval later today. The closest there has been to proper DW since 1989 and sadly from the looks all we are ever going to get in terms of DW content.
I still hate Moffat the most. That fokking canute was the one who sold us out back in 2014 and now he will get away with it.
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Post by henshin on Sept 24, 2021 15:03:18 GMT
Well, RTD is my favourite showrunner of the revived era.
So, there's that.
I am curious to see how he handles the whole "Timeless Children" thing, along with Moffat's low-key reversal of the Time War.
Could be an all out pissing contest, a bit like the Abrams vs. Johnson slapping contest across the latest Star Wars trilogy.
I'm actually looking forward to this - that's something I haven't said since the casting of Capaldi.
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 24, 2021 15:13:09 GMT
Well, RTD is my favourite showrunner of the revived era. So, there's that. I am curious to see how he handles the whole "Timeless Children" thing, along with Moffat's low-key reversal of the Time War. Could be an all out pissing contest, a bit like the Abrams vs. Johnson slapping contest across the latest Star Wars trilogy. I'm actually looking forward to this - that's something I haven't said since the casting of Capaldi. Sadly RTD by this stage has been in the belly of the SJW, woke entertainment beast for so long, he'll continue all of the same crap that Chibbers did. Expect more female Doctors, Master/Doctor slash fest, and I doubt that he will do anything to the timeless children. He is Chibbers friend and mentor. He will just leave it and accept it as canon. The only difference is that now, as it's RTD who is more competent at winning round general audiences than Chinballs, it will be a success and the following things will happen. 1/ Timeless Children will just become an accepted part of the canon. 2/ Chibbers in time will just be thought as another showrunner, and with RTD making a lot of this crap popular, we will be seen as the people who were wrong. 3/ Another generation will grow up with "Doctor who can be anything." Attitude meaning that classic who's identity will just get pushed further and further into the past, rewritten and forgotten. 4/ The SJWs themselves grip around the fandom will tighten to an even greater extent. It's a sad day for any Classic who fan. |
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Post by henshin on Sept 24, 2021 15:16:58 GMT
Well, RTD is my favourite showrunner of the revived era. So, there's that. I am curious to see how he handles the whole "Timeless Children" thing, along with Moffat's low-key reversal of the Time War. Could be an all out pissing contest, a bit like the Abrams vs. Johnson slapping contest across the latest Star Wars trilogy. I'm actually looking forward to this - that's something I haven't said since the casting of Capaldi. Sadly RTD by this stage has been in the belly of the SJW, woke entertainment beast for so long, he'll continue all of the same crap that Chibbers did. Expect more female Doctors, Master/Doctor slash fest, and I doubt that he will do anything to the timeless children. He is Chibbers friend and mentor. He will just leave it and accept it as canon. The only difference is that now, as it's RTD who is more competent at winning round general audiences than Chinballs, it will be a success and the following things will happen. 1/ Timeless Children will just become an accepted part of the canon. 2/ Chibbers in time will just be thought as another showrunner, and with RTD making a lot of this crap popular, we will be seen as the people who were wrong. 3/ Another generation will grow up with "Doctor who can be anything." Attitude meaning that classic who's identity will just get pushed further and further into the past, rewritten and forgotten. 4/ The SJWs themselves grip around the fandom will tighten to an even greater extent. It's a sad day for any Classic who fan. See my response in the newly made RTD returning thread. Keeping in mind that I hadn't read your reply before posting in there, but I inadvertently respond to some of your points above in that thread. |
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 24, 2021 15:20:50 GMT
Haha that's okay. I hope you're right, but I honestly can't see RTD retconning any of the shit his successors have done. He will reinforce it, but with more appeal to the casual viewer, therefore cementing it.
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Post by iank on Sept 24, 2021 21:09:40 GMT
So this is true then?
Dear God. So glad I'm out.
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Post by mistressrani on Sept 28, 2021 19:30:49 GMT
This thread has aged VERY badly.
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Post by RobFilth on Sept 28, 2021 20:52:12 GMT
This thread has aged VERY badly. Not if Fathead reboots the whole franchise it hasn't. He likes reset buttons and non-continuations when he devises his spin-off fan-fic enterprises don't forget!  |
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Post by iank on Sept 28, 2021 20:53:13 GMT
Not really. Technically, it has been cancelled. What's coming next is New New Who. The BBC Wales production has shut down. New New Who is being made by two different production companies. Chinballs and Pisstaker killed the BBC Wales show, there's no denying it, Rani!
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Post by mott1 on Sept 28, 2021 21:10:50 GMT
Even if he does retcon it to get rid of Timeless Tripe, should it somehow be a success it'll end up in the same mess before very long.
Amongst the abysmal, fact-free articles about Fathead's return I did find one (on gizmos) with a quote, where His Shiteness RTD himself says he ran his TV empire '10 years too soon'. Basically he thinks it will be hard to run concurrent series like Torchwood etc alongside DW now due to the demands of modern TV. Thank fokk.
At least we were spared Rose Tyler: Earth Defence back in the day!
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 28, 2021 21:46:36 GMT
This thread has aged VERY badly. Not as badly as that Noel Clarke interview about John Barrowman and Eccelston and RTD's friendship though. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 29, 2021 9:18:32 GMT
This thread has aged VERY badly. Not as badly as that Noel Clarke interview about John Barrowman and Eccelston and RTD's friendship though. Yeah, the timing of that was amusing. Eccleston explicitly slags off RTD and the production team just before they end up returning to produce the programme- I wonder if he knew a thing or two? |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 29, 2021 9:23:53 GMT
As for the thread ageing badly- sure, it hasn't been cancelled, but it's been transferred to a different studio entirely (the first time this has happened since 2005), and is thus effectively becoming a new programme altogether. Technically, NuWho in its present iteration has died.
I suppose, on that score, I was wrong before, in that shifting studios implies that it might evolve and change enough to keep viewers interested to a greater degree than NuWho did during its waning years, but it's probably best to wait and see before anything happens.
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Post by iank on Sept 29, 2021 20:42:09 GMT
Doctor Who 3.0 would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't the same guy doing it that started 2.0...
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Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 29, 2021 21:45:30 GMT
Doctor Who 3.0 would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't the same guy doing it that started 2.0... Well, exactly. There's no real suspense or intrigue given how unvaried most of RTD's work is tonally- it's fairly predictable as to what'll follow stylistically, but I'm just wondering if the studio transition will usher in any changes that'll distinguish it enough from the last several years to keep a layman or a casual audience member more enthused about it. I doubt it, mind you. |
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