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Post by rushy on May 9, 2024 17:18:06 GMT
I want to see western and mafia cinematic universes for a change.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 17:58:07 GMT
Well you know me, I just want a season of Talons of Weng-Chiangs with lavish historical locations and villains who are troubled human characters with maybe some slight alien influence.
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Post by burrunjor on May 9, 2024 18:38:00 GMT
Well you know me, I just want a season of Talons of Weng-Chiangs with lavish historical locations and villains who are troubled human characters with maybe some slight alien influence. Oh nothing wrong with that (even if I think Talons is overrated LOL.) My LOOOONG post wasn't saying bring recurring villains back every year. It's just as always have a healthy balance. Have a few years where they're a big deal, then give them all a rest for a few years, and if you create new recurring foes in the mean time don't be afraid to explore them. That was basically the formula they had in the 60s and 70s and it worked well enough. Daleks were big in Hartnell's time, then given a rest for 5 years, Cybermen big in Troughton then given a rest for 5 years, Master big in Pertwee's time then given a rest for 4 years etc. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 18:39:55 GMT
My little rant is 100% predicated on my own idiosyncrasies, though I do objectively believe that having a fanboy in the pilot seat is a recipe for disaster.
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Post by burrunjor on May 9, 2024 18:39:58 GMT
I want to see western and mafia cinematic universes for a change. Yes to the former. I'm fed up with the Mafia being fetishized, though if it's a more truthful take on them I'd be happy. There was a docu series I watched called Mafia's greatest hits which despite the naff title was fascinating. Meanwhile Terror on the Prairie is a good western. Leave aside all the drama one way or another about Gina Carano, it's a really good, solid film. It's a bit slow at first, but honestly closest thing I've seen to a Spaghetti western in a long while. (Also again unlike St Jodie it IS actually more unusual to see a female led western.) |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on May 9, 2024 19:53:33 GMT
I read an interview in which RTD talked about the reaction to the Whittaker era and said he didn't think it was fair for him to comment on it, but that the showrunner was his good friend. The issue I think is that they're too scared to say, "I don't think that works" to one another because they're all mates. I would have told Chibnall that the fans were right on this occasion and that I thought the Timeless Child revelation was too controversial to carry on with.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on May 9, 2024 20:04:16 GMT
It's a bit like the Simpsons with the Seymour/Armin Tamzarian revelation. At least the writers of that show were smart enough never to mention it again. Even then, it did nothing but make a respectable man a complete fraud.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2024 20:18:51 GMT
Exactly. There is no reason to continue with the Timeless Child thing. No one liked it, not even the die-hard Jodie stans, and the normies will just be confused. I guess RTD is using it as traumabait much like he did the Time War with all those mysterious and aloof "I don't know who I am anymore"s. YAWN. I just hate that stuff, in the Matt Smith era it became insufferable but it was present in the RTD era too.
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Post by rushy on May 10, 2024 6:09:04 GMT
Wasn't the whole point of Ncuti to move past the trauma?
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Post by iank on May 10, 2024 6:14:42 GMT
Exactly. There is no reason to continue with the Timeless Child thing. No one liked it, not even the die-hard Jodie stans, and the normies will just be confused. I guess RTD is using it as traumabait much like he did the Time War with all those mysterious and aloof "I don't know who I am anymore"s. YAWN. I just hate that stuff, in the Matt Smith era it became insufferable but it was present in the RTD era too. Hunh? It was far more present (and insufferable) in the RTD era than it was in Smith. Moffat largely forgot about all that stuff until the 50th. Tennant never stopped f*cking whining about it. |
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Post by rushy on May 10, 2024 6:49:04 GMT
I think it was worse in the Smith era because it fitted less. It stood out much more. Especially in godawful episodes like A Good Man Goes to War where they try to have him act like a tough badass. And it looks exactly like what it is - an eccentric professor trying to act like a tough badass. It's embarrassing. But that's obviously not what the script is trying to convey.
Matt Smith can be intimidating in stuff like House of the Dragon, so I'm putting it down to Moff just not being able to commit to a tone.
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Post by iank on May 10, 2024 7:36:26 GMT
Again, don't see how that equates to him whining all the time like Tennant did...
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Post by burrunjor on May 10, 2024 8:58:19 GMT
Again, don't see how that equates to him whining all the time like Tennant did... To be fair whilst I vastly prefer Matt Smith to David Tennant in every way, the obnoxious trend of the Doctor beating the villain by them both whipping it out and measuring it and the Doctors is bigger was more prominent in Matt's time. It began in Tennant's in that Library two parter, no doubt about that, but it was more present in Matt's. Other than that though Tennant's Doctor was far mopier. My dad used to call Tennant two things. The spunk haired Doctor and the blubbing Doctor LOL. (I think the former came from the Hive that I told him? Not sure, but the latter was definitely his and f*ck was he right.) |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 9:04:59 GMT
Again, don't see how that equates to him whining all the time like Tennant did... All the "question that must never be asked" bullshit. The whole thing was just a mystery box inside a mystery box inside a mystery box, etc. I do respect Moffat for trying to take DW to the next level, but it just didn't have the gas to compete with real prestige television. RTD Who was competing with Merlin and Primeval, Moffat's Who aspired to compete with Game of Thrones and the Walking Dead, but it fumbled its way along and never really had the reach for it. |
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Post by zarius on May 10, 2024 11:22:28 GMT
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