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Oh dear I see Glinner has well and truly put his foot in his mouth, calling RTD a sweaty groomer. What a f*cking idiot. 

We all know that there are some serious casting couch rumours about Russell and Ncuti being a twink of his (though even then it's not something you should ever state as fact in the public especially if you're in the industry without proof), but groomer implies children and that is certainly the context Glinner was using it in. Morally it's disgusting for Glinner to try and smear an innocent man as that, (he's now crossed into Mr Tardis territory) but from a practical point of view what a f*cking idiot! RTD could take him to the cleaners for slander. 



Only posting this here because I mentioned Linehan among my bad celeb encounters and honestly I don't think he deserves a thread of his own. 

It's a shame for the other people who worked on Father Ted. Poor old Dermot Morgan's legacy is being trashed for a lot of people by this. Still again my fave sci fi author Edgar Rice Burroughs was a raging racist so I can't throw stones too much LOL. 

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Sorry I don't see the problem. RTD is using his position to try and groom an entire generation of kids (not that any of them are watching) with his vile worldview. Seems like an accurate description to me for a man who boasts about having gay orgies in the pages of a magazine about a show supposedly at least partly aimed at kids.

And yes, I think we all know how Fruity got the job. Sure as f*ck wasn't down to talent or suitability for the character.

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If I'm being honest, both Father Ted and the IT Crowd struck me as being a great deal more trashy, juvenile and less intelligent than precursors such as Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, the Young Ones and Only Fools. That isn't to say they're not funny - they can be side-splitting at times - but they're definitely less prestige than the aforementioned. And given that something like Mrs. Brown's Boys was clearly not only inspired by, but directly derived from the comedy of Father Ted, it's hard to argue with that.

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Apr 27, 2024 10:18:37 GMT @theyakemperor said:

If I'm being honest, both Father Ted and the IT Crowd struck me as being a great deal more trashy, juvenile and less intelligent than precursors such as Blackadder, Fawlty Towers, the Young Ones and Only Fools. That isn't to say they're not funny - they can be side-splitting at times - but they're definitely less prestige than the aforementioned. And given that something like Mrs. Brown's Boys was clearly not only inspired by, but directly derived from the comedy of Father Ted, it's hard to argue with that.

Well I disagree somewhat. I mean I do think that The Young Ones and Blackadder are far better than Father Ted, but overall I think Ted has a lot of quite clever and inspired humour that still holds up decades on and Dermot Morgan's performance as Father Ted is as good as Cleese's as Basil and Rowan Atkinson's in Blackadder. 

Remember as I said before Ted also wasn't just Glinner. So much of it was taken from Dermot Morgan's stage act before of a priest who wanted to be famous (which drives so much of Father Ted) and Arthur Matthews who is a great comedy writer in his own right co wrote it with Glinner. 

My dad always hated Glinner. He felt he was a Ben Elton type, one who clung to the coat tails of others like Elton had with Rik Mayall, Rowan Atkinson etc. He said that guys like Elton and Glinner are middle of the road hacks, who can put together some decent stories, but ultimately most of the jokes come from the actors in these things who are comedy performers themselves. I think my dad was maybe being a bit hard on them, (especially Elton who was the one who made the positive change in Blackadder that he was to be the smart one and Baldrick the idiot) but there is an element of truth there in that a lot of the jokes do come from the actors improvising and often the stories are just designed to give them lee way to do their act. 

After all Rik and Ade had been doing the Young Ones stuff on stage for years and would continue to do so for years afterwards, Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie also basically recycled their double act in Blackadder, where Hugh is the stupid, lovable boffin who gets beaten up by a nasty, bullying Fry LOL, and similarly in the IT Crowd, the likes of Noel Fielding, Chris Morris and Matt Berry at least all play characters that they've been doing on stage for years, as did Dermot Morgan. 

The fact that Glinner would often get insecure about this and act as though Morgan had nothing to do with the success of Father Ted, even stating anyone could have played that part, just further convinces me that my dad was right. 

Incidentally I have always thought Armando Ianucci was a prime example of this too. Granted I just hate that little smug obnoxious shit anyway so maybe I'm biased? 

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Another underrated character is Tabetha Galavan from Gotham. She was one of my favourite characters. I am so f*cking pissed off how they ended her story (though it was hilarious and almost George Costanzaesque the way the Penguin's cheapness saved him LMFAO.) 

Still season 2 Tabetha is a f*cking badass. My favourite bit is when she captures Butch. God damn is that hot. 




Jump to 3:21. One of that comments is saying poor Butch. I assume they must be sarcastic? I'd have given anything to be in his shoes at that moment LOL. Best thing is even though Tabetha almost tortures Butch to death there, when they meet up later they get together and they are actually the sweetest, most genuine couples in the series. I was really rooting for them (though Butch's death was an absolute peak Penguin moment for me, but ah the sentimentalist in me was wanting to see the nice dumb guy settle down with his gorgeous dominatrix girlfriend. I wonder why?)

I totally need to give Gotham a rewatch again soon. It's by far the best DC show or thing in general apart from the Joker in the last 10 years easy. It was absolutely f*cking insane. 

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One of my favourite characters in the later seasons of the Flash was Kramer. She was gorgeous. From what I'm told she started out as an absolute bitch in season 7. I honestly don't remember that season at all LOL, but she seemed to go through a redemption arc as she was really cool in seasons 8 and 9. 





Yeah probably not surprising that I would like her. She's probably the most of my type woman who has ever lived. 

Honestly I wish she and Barry got together. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not saying I actually wanted that, as it would have been too out of character to have him leave Iris and unlike everyone else, I rather like Iris. (Again new who has ruined my ability to judge anything. Now I get bitter seeing sites like TV Tropes trash Iris as the worst, when they kiss the arse of shit like Missy, Jinx Monsoon, Donna, Ncuti etc. ) 

Still yeah I'd never have made Barry and Kramer actually get together, but if I could pick my ideal Flash team she'd be his girlfriend. (My ideal Flash team would be season 2 Wells, Cisco, reformed Captain Cold or citizen cold and Kramer, plus Barry obvs LOL. Sorry Caitlin became too much baggage.)

I'd like to see a romance between an older woman and a younger man. Obviously I do NOT mean like 18 and 40 as that is creepy. More like 30 and 50s, as if done right that can be quite sweet. I realise you might think I'm a hypocrite given I don't like Doctor/companion romances but that's different, also I admit to being a bit biased. I'll probably end up with an older woman as I don't want kids. I don't think I could ever cope with the anxiety of having kids. Obviously there are younger women who don't want kids, but to be fair they might change their mind and it would be selfish of me who obviously doesn't have a biological clock to deprive them of that.  Granted I'm not saying I'd get off with a 20 year old in my 50s. It does always make me laugh when these redpiller guys go on about how they can keep reproducing until their 70s, which yeah technically is true, but why do you think you'll get off with an 18 year old? 

Still for me older women are the best. 



They are my weird ship like Zarius' shipping Graham and Jodie haha. We all have them. 

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The presenter of Sky boxing, Anna Woolhouse. I'm not complaining about the price now 

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Pam Grier is a babe. 

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LMFAO I saw a conservative post this on social media as though it would be a bad thing. 




Jesus Christ sign me up for that future right away. I'd be a slacker every day to make sure I got the most punishment. 

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WOW, just wow how good does this woman look at 80. I mean don't get me wrong I'm not saying I fancy her LOL as that would be creepy. I think late 60s is the cut off for me at my current age.

Still f*ck me is this woman well kept. 

When she was in her 30s-60s she must have been f*cking gorgeous as can be. 




I know this thread is all about bigging women up and everything, but in this case, speaking as an out of shape 33 year who struggles to get up the steps. f*ck THIS BITCH lol She makes me feel a bit bad about myself. (When I'm not wondering how sexy she must have been in her 30s and 40s.)

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Was watching My Life is Murder (fantastic series) starring one of my favourites Lucy Lawless and who should show up but Simone Kessell. Why she wasn't a major movie star I really don't know? Her performance as an over the hill model that we thought had obviously killed the younger girl, but gradually came to feel sympathy for as always was excellent, particularly her accent.

She's definitely one that got sexier with age too. I mean she was always hot, but I don't know much like Alison King or Kramer from the Flash, greater age gave her face more character. 

Here she is now. 



When she was in Xena a few decades ago. 




Again she is f*cking sexy as can be in both, but honestly I prefer the top picture. The more mature look suits her fabulous face. 

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I'm undecided on which is my favourite of the following mad bitches who always kill guys in films and tv shows, Amanda Donohoe, Famke Janssen, Gina Carano, and Claire Stansfield. Obviously right now it is Gina, as her trial is fresh in my mind, though I think I've got over my obsession with that for now as it has gone quiet. Also yesterday I finally talked with some people who were willing to listen to me about it and not just delete my posts, specifically Claudia Boleyn and another Non Binary girl I know online, who both agreed I raised good points and that Gina was over hated. My god after all the insane shit it was such a relief. Still whilst Gina may be occupying my mind now, Big Fam and Alti are childhood favourites. 

Anyway as to which one is the biggest badass on screen well that's hard to say. (Obviously in real life it's Gina who could kill 99 percent of women and men in Hollywood, but still if we're just talking about their films?)

Big Fam has killed Patrick Stewart by blowing him to pieces, and tortured Owen Wilson and nearly chopped his winkle off. 

Gina has beat the shit out of Michael Fassbender and blew his head off, beat up and left Ewan McGregor to slowly drown and tortured Ryan Reynolds for months on end. (I will say of all their high profile victims he is the best choice as I can't stand the little shit.) 

Amanda Donohoe has meanwhile had her way with and eaten Peter Capaldi, beat up, tortured and killed Rik Mayall, and repeatedly tortured and beaten and made Matt Berry's life a misery. 

Claire meanwhile killed Xena and cut Karl Urban up into tiny bits, whilst having her way with him. (What a way to go.)

It's hard to say which is more impressive. On the one hand Gina's fights are obviously the best, and she usually wins. In fact I think she has only been killed in ONE movie? However Claire had the best and most badass character out of all of them with Alti. Sorry even Xenia can't match her. Big Fam meanwhile with having orgasms when she shoots people, trying to hump them while she eats them, all the ball busting in I Spy, turned hurting people in an art form LOL. Finally Amanda Donohoe is arguably the most impressive as unlike the others she isn't a big powerful looking lady. She's average height and build, but it's entirely through her sheer force of personality that she got typecast as man eaters, dominatrix's, psycho villains and her victims are arguably more impressive. Big Fam's might be the most high profile, but making Rik Mayall and Matt Berry who are known for playing threatening perverts that other female characters are scared of into your bitches is awesome haha. 

Overall I'm going to be loyal to my teenage self and say that for now Big Fam is still the best as she truly did make hurting people into art. Still they all have their eh good points. 

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Kari Wuhler definitely deserves more credit. Watched 8 Legged Freaks last night and she was amazing as the tough as nails, Ripleyesque, no nonsense Sheriff who saves the day. Again it always makes me laugh that people were ignorant enough to say a female Doctor was groundbreaking. Even little throwaway B-movie parodies like this gave women kick ass leading roles. 




I don't know why 8 Legged Freaks isn't more famous? It's an absolute riot. One of the better parodies. 

Kari meanwhile is extremely underrated as an actress. She's always been really good in everything I've ever seen her in. This character couldn't be more different to her role in Anaconda who is the most useless, screaming idiot there and gets the most undignified death of not even being killed by the Snake, but Jon Voight (who is one of the most appallingly acted villains in anything LOL) despite him being 30 years older than her, and tied down whilst she has a knife! You honestly don't even think of her as the same person, and indeed when I was a boy I never thought they were the same person. 

She definitely should have got more leading roles. Again it's funny how things work out. There are so many like her, Simone Kessel, Claire Stansfield etc who have everything going for them, fabulous voices, unusually gorgeous, incredible range, yet only get b-movie roles, or tv roles, whilst others like Scarlet Johanson and Gal Gadot become huge Hollywood A-listers. I mean not that I have anything against Scar Jo and Gal Gadot, but they certainly aren't better actresses. (Gadot in particular I think is very limited as an actress, but she does have a good screen presence.) It really is just who you know and luck in the industry. 

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Another kickass scene of Kari in action. 

I'm going to say Samantha is one of my favourite obscure female heroes. 

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Just saw her name is Kari Wuhrer NOT Wuhler. Honestly this is a Mandela effect thing as I could have sworn that was her name? I'm in another universe clearly where it was Kari Wuhrer.

I did want to change universes, but I want to go into one where RTD isn't the one who brought DW back.