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Post by burrunjor on Nov 25, 2023 21:50:28 GMT
All I've heard is how amazing it was. To be honest, and I say this somewhat begrudgingly, Day of the Doctor was a much better experience than this. Even if it did feel like the eighth anniversary, it still had a bit of scale to it. Despite an upgrade in visuals, The Star Beast feels quite small and static. Tennant's return doesn't feel special because we've had years of Whittaker playing the role the exact same way. Gold's music hasn't improved either. He still can't resist placing "farty comedy" music over the funny scenes. Someone (it might have been Zarius) said last year that Power of the Doctor would probably be "our" anniversary special and that these ones would be more focused on NuWho/Davies. Whoever said it was absolutely 100% correct. Really, awwwwwww that's depressing that it's getting a warm reception. It was a f*cking disaster in every way. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 25, 2023 21:59:38 GMT
I mentioned that I’d avoid this without the family taking interest. Sadly, they got curious in the end and put it on.
To summarise succinctly, my Dad thought it was shite. My Mum was more forgiving. The only passable thing about that episode was the TARDIS interior. Everything else was banal bollocks, no better than the Chibnall era, and in some respects, far worse.
Who is this programme for?
I’ll give a more thorough breakdown of my thoughts later, but I don’t think this even warrants an excoriation. It just left me thoroughly apathetic.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Nov 25, 2023 22:06:12 GMT
Despite an upgrade in visuals, The Star Beast feels quite small and static. I (and my Dad) thought it looked staggeringly cheap. The series frankly looked more convincing back in 2010. That Disney money has done precisely sod all as far as I’m concerned. |
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Post by mott1 on Nov 25, 2023 22:08:32 GMT
This Tennant/Tate return still feels desperate by RTD. A bit like Spinal Tap putting out the SOS for the guitarist to come back!
Good news tho! I'm just watching an old episode of Minder and the Brigadier has just appeared (and Grandad from Only Fools And Horses). A more enjoyable way to spend an evening, rather than listening to Davies telling us how he knows more about gender than us...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 22:09:28 GMT
"Tennant makes every other Doctor an imposter"
Funny, you lot weren't saying that in 2018. I see you've dropped your fake support for Jodie.
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Post by mott1 on Nov 25, 2023 22:10:53 GMT
"Tennant makes every other Doctor an imposter" And I used to quite like reading the i... 🤢 |
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Post by rushy on Nov 25, 2023 22:15:57 GMT
Power was even worse than this. At least this one has the Meep, and Tennant in the starring role. I'll take that over old Doctor cameos any day of the week.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 22:17:30 GMT
Fans (in the UK, anyway) were treated to this 40 years ago to the day. Lucky, lucky bastards.  |
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Post by RobFilth on Nov 25, 2023 22:18:21 GMT
Okay, I watched this and to be fair, I quite enjoyed it for what it was, which was RTD by numbers.
I liked the faithful design of the Wrarth Warriors and the Meep, but thought it shame that RTD dispensed with the escape by double-decker bus and the Doctor building the fizgig and the classic line, "Mrs Higgins...there are Aliens at the bottom of your garden", however it was nice to see Pat Mills finally get his name in the tv series and I liked the reference to the Mills/Wagner foundary too.
The identity politics didn't bother me, in fact I thought it funny a load of gammons seething over a transperson character, and okay, the non-binary thing was corny as hell but at least quite good for Fathead and his usual crassness.
The revelation of the Meeps true nature was clumsily handled compared to the comic strip however and Fudges character had been downgraded so much than he might as well have not been there. It was also disappointing that considering the Wrarth Warriors looked so faithful to their comic strip characters that their exo-skeleton attributes, removable limbs and extending tongues were not featured and they became bog-standard accessories. Their voices should have been more gruffer and gutteral too.
Quite liked this actually being filmed in London too, rather than Cardiff pretending to be London and the new TARDIS interior was a definite improvement.
All in all, this was back to Capaldi/Matt Smith levels, although I dare say Tennant fans would have been in their element over this. I think that had it not been for the nostalgia of the comic strip "Star Beast" I'd have probably have thought this like a normal substandard Tennant/Fathead episode, however the original source element elevated it a little above this.
Not a classic, fairly unintelligent and typical Fathead type runaround, but gotta be better than frigging Jodie and Chinballs surely?
I'd elevate this slightly above an average 5 out of 10, maybe a 6?
That's only because it didn't really hugely annoy me in the offensive ways Fathead and NuWho usually does, but it didn't surprise me or do anything unexpected either.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 22:23:33 GMT
Power was even worse than this. At least this one has the Meep, and Tennant in the starring role. I'll take that over old Doctor cameos any day of the week. Power was much better and a far worthier celebration of Doctor Who. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 22:25:56 GMT
Okay, I watched this and to be fair, I quite enjoyed it for what it was, which was RTD by numbers. I liked the faithful design of the Wrarth Warriors and the Meep, but thought it shame that RTD dispensed with the escape by double-decker bus and the Doctor building the fizgig and the classic line, "Mrs Higgins...there are Aliens at the bottom of your garden", however it was nice to see Pat Mills finally get his name in the tv series and I liked the reference to the Mills/Wagner foundary too. The identity politics didn't bother me, in fact I thought it funny a load of gammons seething over a transperson character, and okay, the non-binary thing was corny as hell but at least quite good for Fathead and his usual crassness. The revelation of the Meeps true nature was clumsily handled compared to the comic strip however and Fudges character had been downgraded so much than he might as well have not been there. It was also disappointing that considering the Wrarth Warriors looked so faithful to their comic strip characters that their exo-skeleton attributes, removable limbs and extending tongues were not featured and they became bog-standard accessories. Their voices should have been more gruffer and gutteral too. Quite liked this actually being filmed in London too, rather than Cardiff pretending to be London and the new TARDIS interior was a definite improvement. All in all, this was back to Capaldi/Matt Smith levels, although I dare say Tennant fans would have been in their element over this. I think that had it not been for the nostalgia of the comic strip "Star Beast" I'd have probably have thought this like a normal substandard Tennant/Fathead episode, however the original source element elevated it a little above this. Not a classic, fairly unintelligent and typical Fathead type runaround, but gotta be better than frigging Jodie and Chinballs surely? I'd elevate this slightly above an average 5 out of 10, maybe a 6? That's only because it didn't really hugely annoy me in the offensive ways Fathead and NuWho usually does, but it didn't surprise me or do anything unexpected either. I think Yasmin did fine to be honest. She was my favourite part of the story. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 25, 2023 22:27:05 GMT
Power was even worse than this. At least this one has the Meep, and Tennant in the starring role. I'll take that over old Doctor cameos any day of the week. Power was much better and a far worthier celebration of Doctor Who. Absolutely not! Brief old Doctor cameos? The Master larking about in a mixed Doctor cosplay? That waste of Rasputin? The complete incoherence of the entire plot? Say what you will about Star Beast, but you could make out what was going on and it had a decent lead and villain. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2023 22:31:42 GMT
Power was much better and a far worthier celebration of Doctor Who. Absolutely not! Brief old Doctor cameos? The Master larking about in a mixed Doctor cosplay? That waste of Rasputin? The complete incoherence of the entire plot? Say what you will about Star Beast, but you could make out what was going on and it had a decent lead and villain. I personally prefer Ace whacking a Dalek with a baseball bat than RTD whacking off to his own era for an hour. Each to their own, though. |
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Post by RobFilth on Nov 25, 2023 22:32:01 GMT
Power was much better and a far worthier celebration of Doctor Who. Absolutely not! Brief old Doctor cameos? The Master larking about in a mixed Doctor cosplay? That waste of Rasputin? The complete incoherence of the entire plot? Say what you will about Star Beast, but you could make out what was going on and it had a decent lead and villain. Plotwise Star Beast was far superior, for ClassicWho nostalgia Power was better, but I had to skip all the Jodie bits with Power. |
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Post by rushy on Nov 25, 2023 22:36:39 GMT
I personally prefer Ace whacking a Dalek with a baseball bat than RTD whacking off to his own era for an hour. Each to their own, though. That's a perfect example of the show being careless though. She could only get away with it originally because the (metal) baseball bat was supercharged with whatever energy the Hand of Omega possessed. Having her do it with a regular one makes a mockery of the Daleks. |
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