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Post by burrunjor on Sept 30, 2024 13:21:52 GMT
It definitely does deserve to be held in a higher regard than anything since 2014. Even if you don't like those 7 years, everything since definitely deserves shat on to a greater extent LOL. Obviously your interpretation differs to mine. But aside from the caveats I made in my previous post I don't hold it in any significantly higher regard just because political correctness became a bigger driver in the late Moffat era. I just think it's two different variations of turd. A type 6 vs type 7 on the Bristol scale, you might say. As far as I'm concerned, it's been shit from the start. And that was all thanks to Davies. I think I understand you. You're saying that Davies era is like one of those turds that comes out of your arse, where as late Moffat era is like one of those moldy grey ones you get after an infection that has been left in the sun? |
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Post by rushy on Sept 30, 2024 14:06:37 GMT
at least we can all sniff at the Chibs era together (except for Pepsi, somehow)
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Post by burrunjor on Sept 30, 2024 14:29:53 GMT
at least we can all sniff at the Chibs era together (except for Pepsi, somehow) Yeah let's get Maxil. |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Sept 30, 2024 15:01:59 GMT
The Whittaker era was abysmal before Flux. I think her third series is slightly better with a few decent episodes and some welcome humour from John Bishop. I'm fond of two of the three specials that finish off the era.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Sept 30, 2024 15:37:04 GMT
And it's ironic that Chris Chibnall was the one who delivered a story that actually felt like a celebration of the series compared to Moffat's 50th special and the three RTD specials.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Sept 30, 2024 16:40:41 GMT
Obviously your interpretation differs to mine. But aside from the caveats I made in my previous post I don't hold it in any significantly higher regard just because political correctness became a bigger driver in the late Moffat era. I just think it's two different variations of turd. A type 6 vs type 7 on the Bristol scale, you might say. As far as I'm concerned, it's been shit from the start. And that was all thanks to Davies. I think I understand you. You're saying that Davies era is like one of those turds that comes out of your arse, where as late Moffat era is like one of those moldy grey ones you get after an infection that has been left in the sun? I believe that is the very definition of "Shit Relativism"...  |
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Post by Ludders II on Sept 30, 2024 22:12:38 GMT
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Sept 30, 2024 22:27:41 GMT
Aliens of London/World War Three
As a Girls Aloud fanboy with a fart fetish and a huge preference for aliens in modern day London stories I can't help but like this one. It isn't even close to being the worst of Series 1. I'm surprised by how much better it has aged compared to the universally praised Dalek. The music is better and there's a huge sense of fun about the thing.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Sept 30, 2024 23:33:45 GMT
I'm afraid i agree with Ian. He's a hack. You're right about him being obsessed with sex, but it's an echo of what you see on any Pride march of the last 3 decades. He has that unfortunate mentality which conflates acceptance of homosexuality with public displays of an overtly sexual nature. It hasn't grown up yet, and neither has he. My comment about his gay soaps was me taking the piss, because that's all he's worth. As far as I'm concerned, if there IS anything good about his era, it departed with Chris Eccleston. He may not have made a very good Doctor but he was the only person involved in RTD Who with any real class as an actor. I have no idea what people see in Tennant, even away from Dr Who he's not even average on the acting front in my opinion. I'm not at all convinced that the first 7 years of NuWho deserves to be on a higher level somehow. It might not be so overtly politically motivated as what came later, but it definitely paved the way for it, and at the end of the day it's just another type of shite hackery just as much as late Moff or Chibb eras were. The ONLY bit of improvement was during S5, and even that didn't last the course, so much so that I'm tempted to think it was accidental. For me it really comes down to S1 and S5, being the only seasons that managed to have a few small moments, and in the case of S5, two or three half decent stories. The rest is wank, and it was RTD that made that happen in the first instance. He's a terrible writer on all counts, and I consider talentless in every department bar none, just to make that clear. It definitely does deserve to be held in a higher regard than anything since 2014. Even if you don't like those 7 years, everything since definitely deserves shat on to a greater extent LOL. It not being as uber political is not nothing. That is a huge difference that bleeds into every aspect of it. For instance John Simm was cast because RTD genuinely thought he'd be the best choice. Obviously you can disagree with that, but that's not the same as Ncuti, Michelle Gomez and Jodie who were all at least partly cast for box ticking. Also at least in those first 7 years the writers were still trying to do a sci fi show, and drawing on things like 2000 AD, Spider-Man, Buffy, etc, where as post 2014 it is all just about let's get the message in there. To me that's not just a small difference. Yes you can say it that the move to politics exaggerated problems that were already there, but still. Also like I said the fact is that by 2014, the show had shaken off the excesses of the RTD era anyway. An older, more eccentric character actor had been cast, who had ideas about the show going back into the unknown depths of space and being scarier and edgier again. It also had undone the last of the time lords, Rose was long gone etc. There really was no reason that it couldn't have done a retro classic who style from then on, other than to pander to the political subset of fandom and the elites at the Beeb like Charlotte Moore. That is what truly took it to the point of no return. Series 8 was a massive con. Moffat even said the show would be more like classic who and that people would die, hinting at a more mature tone. Instead we got what we got. Series 7 isn't the best Moffat series, but it's my favourite because Matt and Jenna are such a beautiful match. Their energy made each production feel so warm. Even in clunkers like Nightmare in Silver it still has a whimsical feel to it. Death in Heaven in comparison is absolutely rotten. The script, the tone, the pretentiousness and of course the director herself. Imagine making something worse than Tank Girl. I hate Series 8 with a passion and I almost feel dirty even viewing it aside from Deep Breath. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Sept 30, 2024 23:43:05 GMT
 🎵 "Which do you like best..?" 🎵🎵 |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Sept 30, 2024 23:43:33 GMT
Mmm, nice. I'll have a Chibnall for one. With rice and Aloo Gobi. Yes, i know it's disgusting, but at least with Chibnall i'm likely to throw up halfway through rather than the morning after... |
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Post by RobFilth on Oct 1, 2024 2:20:01 GMT
I remember B uploading this graphic donkeys years back. I can't quite remember quite what prompted him to do so however.  |
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Post by Ludders II on Oct 1, 2024 2:28:21 GMT
I remember B uploading this graphic donkeys years back. I can't quite remember quite what prompted him to do so however. Yeah, this is the standard chart used in the care sector. He discovered it when he briefly worked at a facility caring for older alcoholics. I see this chart every day at work. It helps to keep me grounded when it comes to NuWho. 😆 |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Oct 1, 2024 18:19:23 GMT
at least we can all sniff at the Chibs era together (except for Pepsi, somehow) Yeah let's get Maxil. I have a big thing for Jodie and Mandip. It does make some of it far more watchable for me  |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Oct 1, 2024 21:31:08 GMT
Is this the best Steven Moffat script ever?
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