Favourite NuWho TARDIS Crews

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11 and Clara (only half a series with both of them together, but they were still good)




13, Yaz and Dan

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Oh come on Maxil LOL. I know you like Jodie and Yaz but the second one is a joke pairing. Plus Yaz's mother should have been the companion. Give us a glam older lady already New Who, we've had one with Donna in like what almost 20 years. Ageist pigs!

Meanwhile I'd say that the best three for me are

Matt, Amy and Rory.

Peter, Pearl and Nardole.

Ten Inch, Freema (oh god Freema) and former national treasure, turned unspeakable one these days LOL.

I quite like 11 and Clara too, but they were there for such a short time sadly.

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I like 11/Clara and 10/Bill/Nardole, but they had very few good stories together and they don't really factor into my DW nostalgia much. I'd say 9/10/Rose/Mickey/Jackie, that sort of era, but nothing absolute.

[rushy]

9, Rose and Jack are probably my favourite.

11, Amy and Rory are a classic though.

11 and Clara were alright. I liked Clara in series 7 much more than I did later. I think her lack of depth actually helped in an odd way, as I was getting tired of companions with emotional backstories and recurring family members. Clara reminded me of Classic Who. She was just there to have fun, and the actress made that character who she was. AND THEN THE CAPALDI ERA HAPPENED and Clara from that era can f*ck off.

12, Bill and Nardole are underrated (with Missy as far away from them as possible, thanks)

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Nov 3, 2023 17:05:34 GMT @theyakemperor said:

I like 11/Clara and 10/Bill/Nardole, but they had very few good stories together and they don't really factor into my DW nostalgia much. I'd say 9/10/Rose/Mickey/Jackie, that sort of era, but nothing absolute.

I've met the actress who plays Jackie and f*ck me is she adorable. 

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11/Amy(Rory)

The rest suck

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Nov 3, 2023 17:08:44 GMT rushy said:

9, Rose and Jack are probably my favourite.

11, Amy and Rory are a classic though.

11 and Clara were alright. I liked Clara in series 7 much more than I did later. I think her lack of depth actually helped in an odd way, as I was getting tired of companions with emotional backstories and recurring family members. Clara reminded me of Classic Who. She was just there to have fun, and the actress made that character who she was. AND THEN THE CAPALDI ERA HAPPENED and Clara from that era can f*ck off.

12, Bill and Nardole are underrated (with Missy as far away from them as possible, thanks)

Yeah, 12, Bill and Nardole were brilliant. Matt Lucas surprised me quite a bit actually.

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Nov 4, 2023 10:41:09 GMT @kengrubshaw said:

Nov 3, 2023 17:08:44 GMT rushy said:

9, Rose and Jack are probably my favourite.

11, Amy and Rory are a classic though.

11 and Clara were alright. I liked Clara in series 7 much more than I did later. I think her lack of depth actually helped in an odd way, as I was getting tired of companions with emotional backstories and recurring family members. Clara reminded me of Classic Who. She was just there to have fun, and the actress made that character who she was. AND THEN THE CAPALDI ERA HAPPENED and Clara from that era can f*ck off.

12, Bill and Nardole are underrated (with Missy as far away from them as possible, thanks)

Yeah, 12, Bill and Nardole were brilliant. Matt Lucas surprised me quite a bit actually.

He's a very talented actor, though his appearance gets him typecast quite a bit. I would actually really enjoy him as Judge Holden in Blood Meridian.

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Whittaker, Yaz and Dan were quite fun together. I liked their Sheffield v Liverpool banter.

Jenna and Smith were a nice duo for the brief time they had together. I think Tennant/Martha is probably my favourite though mainly because I grew up with them and Martha is the greatest NuWho companion.

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11 and Clara really was the worst missed opportunity there ever was. Looking at that picture of her and Matt, there's more chemistry in that one shot than 2 years she spent with Capaldi.

Their Doctor/companion romance could have finally worked with those two. Again I don't want Doctor/companion romances for the classic Doctor, but since New Who is an alternate universe for me, then I don't mind it in that show. It's part of the new who Doctors character to be romantic and tragic. Clara is a much better candidate for the Doctor to fall in love with than Rose, simply because she has seen all of his lives, actually been to the time war. She knew him more intimately during Matt's time than any other companion and at that point he was at the end of his life so it might be more believable that he would think he could be with someone.

Also would have made a change from the constant will they won't they dynamic.


Matt really threw a spanner in the works by leaving. He should have stayed 7 years in all honesty. He was genuinely that good and maybe with him in the role we could have ridden out the female Doctor craze, though that said I wouldn't have wanted Matt to star in Death in Heaven.

Moff should have left at the end of Time of the Doctor. He was clearly out of ideas. Toby Whitehouse, the only writer to have the balls to not want a female Doctor should have taken over after Time of the Doctor that rather than kill Matt should have resolved the Silence arc.

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I disagree with 11/Clara romance. I never liked the idea of Clara somehow knowing all his incarnations to begin with, but after all the flirtiness and cuddly attitude the Doctor had with the previous few companions, what I enjoyed about 11 and Clara was that there was a certain level of mistrust.

Not the toxicity of 12/Clara, but the fact is that the Eleventh Doctor mainly picked Clara as his companion because he was interested in her as a temporal anomaly. And you see it best in Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, when he roughly interrogates her. That's his cold scientific side coming out, and it made the character more interesting. It was especially sweet when he realised he was scaring Clara and then tried to comfort her. It felt more real.

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Aug 22, 2024 17:21:39 GMT rushy said:

I disagree with 11/Clara romance. I never liked the idea of Clara somehow knowing all his incarnations to begin with, but after all the flirtiness and cuddly attitude the Doctor had with the previous few companions, what I enjoyed about 11 and Clara was that there was a certain level of mistrust.

Not the toxicity of 12/Clara, but the fact is that the Eleventh Doctor mainly picked Clara as his companion because he was interested in her as a temporal anomaly. And you see it best in Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, when he roughly interrogates her. That's his cold scientific side coming out, and it made the character more interesting. It was especially sweet when he realised he was scaring Clara and then tried to comfort her. It felt more real.

That's how it began with him investigating her, but by the end of that arc he knows the truth and trusts her and she knows him arguably more than anyone. She is able to talk to the Doctor about the Time War in a way he only could with another time lord because she's seen it. 

This coupled with Matt and Jenna's natural chemistry and fondness for one another in real life meanwhile would have allowed 11/Clara to have an amazing dynamic together in s8. Sadly Matt left and they brought in Peter who had 0 chemistry with Jenna in any way shape or form. 

They couldn't carry on the romance with 12/Clara because of the age gap. 

They couldn't have the classic father/daughter dynamic like Ace/7,  Zoe/2 etc because again Matt's Doctor wanted to nob her. 

They couldn't have them just be friends who were on a similar wavelength like 5/Tegan, Jamie/2 as Jenna and Peter had 0 in common as people and actors. Indeed Jenna and Capaldi are almost the opposite in every way. She was famous when she was a teenager, he famously struggled for years to the point where he almost had to give up acting. He is very intense and serious and known for playing mad bad and dangerous to know characters, she is known for being bubbly and sparky. He made it big in edgy, offbeat dramas and comedies, she made it in mainstream soap operas, also again there was a huge age gap. Whilst I don't doubt that Peter and Jenna got on very well as both are nice people from what I've heard, they obviously didn't click as well as she and Matt who did come from similar backgrounds, were similar ages and had similar acting styles (FFS Moffat cast her specifically because she reminded him of a female Matt.)

Just the other month Jenna went to see a play Matt was in. See for yourself.



To be honest that's pretty incredible to still be that close to someone you worked with for a very small time 11 years ago. Some people who work together for years and are genuinely friends don't see each other as soon as they've stopped working together. Shatner said as much about James Spader who he was good friends with on Boston Legal for 5 years, but hasn't seen since it ended. 

Again Capaldi and Jenna in contrast despite doing two years together clearly aren't that close. Any picture of them together is from a convention or the show itself. 



As a result of this they overwrote the Clara/12 relationship to overcompensate, making it both toxic in order to be "edgy" and mind numbingly pretentious like in Hellbent to try and make it deep. Ironically the only times they sort of work together are in the few stories they just let them be a traditional duo, but even then 

In all honesty they should have just dumped Jenna after 1 season with Capaldi. I get keeping her for one year for the transition, but ultimately she was Matt's companion. They should have made Missy that Clara splinter on Gallifrey that had escaped Gallifrey (rather than the Master obviously) who had regenerated into a new form and had gone mad during the war and created the nethersphere from stolen time lord tech in order to cast judgement on the universe. The promised land would be the planet she had placed the nethersphere on (explaining why some aliens though they could get to it.) She'd not only be draining stars to power it, but she'd also be making humans she felt were undeserving suffer in hell (in a twist Danny could be there) and after seeing how bad her other self had become Clara decides to return home after Missy is defeated. 

Then for Capaldi's second series they should have given him a new companion that was cast for him or developed for him. Whoever that would have been. 

Personally I would have liked Journey Blue. The actress is great and having a character come from a Dalek war would be cool and might give us a great Dalek arc showing the war unfold over years when they return to it, whilst she and Capaldi could also have a Leela/4 dynamic sometimes clashing over different methods. I'd also have liked Osgood to join them. I understand people being wary of Osgood due to the meta crap, and I would have dropped that and revealed that she looked up to the Doctor not because she was a tumblr fangirl with a crush, but because her mother was Laird from Resurrection of the Daleks who was killed by the monsters and she looks up to the man who is their worst enemy. (Osgood even looks like Laird.)

Osgood and Journey would be a good double act with 12, the sweet one who looks up to him and who he could have a Jo dynamic with and the rough and tough one, though both ladies could bond with each other over losing loved ones to the Daleks. (Hell maybe even have them fall in love. That would be a better way of having a diverse cast and NOT f*cking with Time Lord lore. Granted I can understand you lot thinking I have less than noble reasons for wanting to see Ingrid Oliver and Zawe Ashton kiss LOL, but in all seriousness that kind of diversity with NEW characters and not rewriting the past is fine.)



I can definitely see that being a relationship that would have softened 12 up in a more natural way than having him forgive Clara after she tried to murder suicide him, or apologised for not paying her to hang out with him after she slapped him. 

Still Osgood and Journey or not, they definitely should have given Peter a companion that suited him. It's funny his companion was a hand me down from his predecessor, whilst his nemesis also wasn't cast to match him either, because Moffat was too busy focusing on ensuring that his successor would be a woman. He really was f*cked the most of any Doctor since Colin Baker wasn't he?  

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Capaldi followed Tennant in having far more chemistry with his second companion than his first. Bill always felt like his companion. Clara I always thought was designed for Smith and Smith only.

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Aug 22, 2024 21:38:15 GMT Cherry Pepsi Maxil said:

Capaldi followed Tennant in having far more chemistry with his second companion than his first. Bill always felt like his companion. Clara I always thought was designed for Smith and Smith only.

Yes shame Bill was only there for a short while. Again she was cast for him and he had a more natural, father/daughter Ace/7 type relationship with her. 

[rushy]

You should see the chemistry Matt Smith has with Milly Alcock in interviews. Woof.

She looks like she wants to jump his bones. It's quite lovely.