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Post by RobFilth on Mar 18, 2021 18:42:19 GMT
Okay Bad man, my man 'ere not sure if we even gonna still be 'ere tomorrow morning once Proboards naughty step deadline expires, so me rushin' wid haste troo deez dam polls to get da dam posse up to Season 20.
If we go down, we go down on da round number innit brudders?
Yo know da score, three votes for three bestest dan best stories.
If we get no further dan dis, I jus' wanna say, it's been fun guys.
Much respects blud.
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 18, 2021 21:26:40 GMT
Hmmm this one looks more of a mixed bag so far
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2021 21:44:33 GMT
Five Docs/Enlightenment/Mawdryn
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Post by mott1 on Mar 18, 2021 22:34:38 GMT
Not the strongest season. Terminus might actually win!
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 19, 2021 1:02:05 GMT
Not the strongest season. Terminus might actually win! No it isn't. It's probably my least favourite pre-hiatus JNT season. How the hell Terminus is beating Snakedance or Arc of Infinity is beyond me though. |
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Post by iank on Mar 19, 2021 3:33:31 GMT
Um, Terminus pwns Arc by a looooooong way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 6:20:40 GMT
Terminus is my runner up, after Mawdryn.
I quite like it.
If it wasn't for the waste of space that is King's Demons, Arc would definitely be bottom placed for me.
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 19, 2021 6:25:12 GMT
Um, Terminus pwns Arc by a looooooong way. You think so? Both stories have their good episodes(Episode 1 for Terminus and episode 4 for Arc), both have ridiculous stupid looking monsters in that Terminus has a giant mouse and Arc has a spindly Giger chicken. Arc has the disadvantage in some truly rubbish acting from the two twats in Amsterdam, and Terminus has the disadvantage of really poorly choreographed fights and some boring poorly directed long full waffly scenes confined to a cramped incredibly cheapie looking studio setting with crappy backdrops and hazard tape. Terminus has the advantage with more intrigue at the start, but Arc has the advantage of lots of nice looking foreign location setting footage. Arc also has the slight advantage over Terminus in containing some good use of continuity, it's the best Gallifrey based story we've seen since Deadly Assassin even if the "hidden" villains are too obvious and the resolution predictable. Arc also has Michael Gough in it whereas all Terminus has is the woman who shagged both Grade and Colin Baker and probably agitated for the programmes demise. Orville the drip is bloody awful in Terminus too, he can't act to save his life and is too busy preening all the time. All in all, neither stories are classics, but I just find Arc less dull than Terminus(episode 3 of Terminus is incredibly meandering, dull and devoid of all excitement and action) and Arc also has a far more satisfactory resolution. I'm still not entirely convinced by Nyssa's departure just to help a load of drug addicts get their fix. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 19, 2021 10:48:31 GMT
'Old on,'old on. Surely Five Docs doesn't count as part of Season 20...?
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 19, 2021 11:00:50 GMT
'Old on,'old on. Surely Five Docs doesn't count as part of Season 20...? It was transmitted after the run of Season 20, but still considered part of Season 20's commissioned filming block. In fact had it not been for the bloody BBC axing 4 episodes(which would have been the 4 episode Dalek finale) we'd have had the equivalent of 30 episodes that year. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 19, 2021 11:18:47 GMT
'Old on,'old on. Surely Five Docs doesn't count as part of Season 20...? It was transmitted after the run of Season 20, but still considered part of Season 20's commissioned filming block. In fact had it not been for the bloody BBC axing 4 episodes(which would have been the 4 episode Dalek finale) we'd have had the equivalent of 30 episodes that year. Hmmm. I was gonna say fair do's on that, but this suggests otherwise:-
"Meanwhile, the anniversary special, which was originally envisaged as a part of season 21, was something quite separate from any season. Although it used a portion of the original money involved in the season 20 commission, it received a separate commission from Head of Series David Reid on 15 July 1982, long after season 20 had wrapped. Indeed, it only received this commission because JNT had been able to secure co-production money from the main Australian network. Moreover, The Five Doctors, as the production was eventually called, didn't begin principal photography until early March 1983 — just when season 20 was wrapping transmission on television.[1]
The Five Doctors, though often said to be a part of season 20, was therefore not a part of season 20 in any production or broadcast sense. Indeed, it's doubtful that any contemporary viewer thought of it as a part of the season, since it came almost eight months after the closing scene of The King's Demons. Instead, it had much greater production and broadcast proximity to season 21."
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 19, 2021 11:22:23 GMT
Fair enough.
I think most people consider it a tack-on story to Season 20 purely because Season 20 was cut short by 4 episodes and The Five Doctors makes up the handy shortfall.
It's purely for a balanced out convenience rather than anything set in stone. There IS the "Eye Of Orion" establishing continuity link between the Kings Demons and Five Doctors too.
But yeah in production and transmission terms, it is closer to Season 21 I agree.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 19, 2021 16:40:04 GMT
Fair enough. I think most people consider it a tack-on story to Season 20 purely because Season 20 was cut short by 4 episodes and The Five Doctors makes up the handy shortfall. It's purely for a balanced out convenience rather than anything set in stone. There IS the "Eye Of Orion" establishing continuity link between the Kings Demons and Five Doctors too. But yeah in production and transmission terms, it is closer to Season 21 I agree. Yeah, it's gotta go somewhere i suppose, but it's a really boringly predictable poll-winner for Season 20. It's holding Terminus back...  |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jul 16, 2021 4:35:34 GMT
Fair enough. I think most people consider it a tack-on story to Season 20 purely because Season 20 was cut short by 4 episodes and The Five Doctors makes up the handy shortfall. It's purely for a balanced out convenience rather than anything set in stone. There IS the "Eye Of Orion" establishing continuity link between the Kings Demons and Five Doctors too. But yeah in production and transmission terms, it is closer to Season 21 I agree. Yeah, it's gotta go somewhere i suppose, but it's a really boringly predictable poll-winner for Season 20. It's holding Terminus back... I'm surprised to see Terminus doing so well on here- I thought it was typically maligned! So many seem to hate it. Refreshing to see a different set of takes on here. I don't mind the story myself (it's consistently grim and atmospheric as well as rarely light on ideas, albeit not necessarily as daring as Gallagher's Warriors' Gate previously), although I've only actually seen it once before. That said, I voted for Mawdryn, Enlightenment and Five Doctors in the end. Fairly obvious choices, yeah.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 9:04:13 GMT
Mawdryn, Enlightenment and The Five Doctors. Terminus and Arc are two of my least favourite JNT era stories and I'm not big on Snakedance either. Not the best season, but some really good stuff in there all the same.
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