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Post by burrunjor on Mar 14, 2021 13:15:56 GMT
Yeah I got a gig writing for this site recently. I hoped it might be a good opportunity, but I was soon kicked off for the hideous crime of having an opinion. Basically what happened was they went on about how Gina Carano was an anti semitic bitch and mocked her openly as a stupid bitch that deserved to get fired. I of course defended her and was given a warning not to provoke people or talk about politics. Later one of them praised Missy and Michelle Gomez and when I let it be known what I think of that insult to Roger Delgado. They called me a disgusting sexist, insulted me, said I was a crushing bore and dogpiled on me. I was called a prick and a moron, but for saying that you can't say Missy is like Delgado, I was told not to be so personal and given another warning.. So today the subject of Supergirl came up and I voiced my opinions that female heroes these days aren't written as well, as a lot of the writers behind them are desperate to make female heroes into trophies rather than actual fleshed out characters like Xena and Buffy. I hardly thought that was a controversial stance. One of the cucks on the page sent me a PM calling me a disgusting prick, Another then said I was xenophobic and anti semitic. So I called their bluff in the usual way and said that ironically I probably like more female led things than they do and I posted a link to the article I wrote about female singers like Dionne Bromfield, Paloma Faith, V V Brown and Shingai Shoniwa and their response was to tell me that I was xenophobic and nobody who has even the slightest bit of interest in British music would like those stupid bitches. After that, they told me I was a horrible, horrible, disgusting person and banned me. Needless to say I'm feeling really, really, really depressed right now.
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 14, 2021 13:21:59 GMT
Sounds like it went well then?
Why did they bother to ask you to write for them if they had such tunneled vision as toward opinion pieces? Didn't they bother to give you any guidelines?
Is there any main person you can inform of your experiences and say that you neither received guidance or support, only abuse?
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 14, 2021 13:40:19 GMT
If it's any consolation Burrunjor, (which it probably isn't). I got through to the interview stage for a job application for a position in Carlisle last autumn which I got terribly excited about, because had I got it, it would've meant I could've moved from the big smoke to an area where at least property is affordable and rents aren't crippling.
I felt fairly confident before the interview as I've almost 14 years present experience in a similar role, and swotted up beforehand too. However, the interview was the disaster from hell! Things were going smooth until half way through when I suddenly started to be asked what largely seemed irrelevant questions, or open ended non-specific ones seemingly designed to deliberately trip me up. I enquired why this was and they then took an effrontery to being asked such a question and it was down hill all the way from then.
Of course I was naturally a bit deflated and pissed from the experience when I was subsequently turned down, but then I figured if these things are meant to be then they will be. If those idiots couldn't take advantage of close on 14 years experiences, then it was their own loss, not mine.
Whilst it was obvious HR liked me to have granted me the interview in the first place, it was also apparent that the internal interview staff already had someone in mind for the job anyway and were just going through the application/interview process to satisfy a funding criteria, which is unfortunately an all too regular occurrence in far too many supposedly open vacancies.
The overall message is what the hell, there's always tomorrow and other opportunities.
You just need to see their loss as being your own gain, as you might end up with something fall in your lap which makes Glasgow Comic Con look f*cking rubbish by comparison.
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Post by The Cryptic Fox on Mar 14, 2021 13:58:01 GMT
Yeah I got a gig writing for this site recently. I hoped it might be a good opportunity, but I was soon kicked off for the hideous crime of having an opinion. Basically what happened was they went on about how Gina Carano was an anti semitic bitch and mocked her openly as a stupid bitch that deserved to get fired. I of course defended her and was given a warning not to provoke people or talk about politics. Later one of them praised Missy and Michelle Gomez and when I let it be known what I think of that insult to Roger Delgado. They called me a disgusting sexist, insulted me, said I was a crushing bore and dogpiled on me. I was called a prick and a moron, but for saying that you can't say Missy is like Delgado, I was told not to be so personal and given another warning.. So today the subject of Supergirl came up and I voiced my opinions that female heroes these days aren't written as well, as a lot of the writers behind them are desperate to make female heroes into trophies rather than actual fleshed out characters like Xena and Buffy. I hardly thought that was a controversial stance. One of the cucks on the page sent me a PM calling me a disgusting prick, Another then said I was xenophobic and anti semitic. So I called their bluff in the usual way and said that ironically I probably like more female led things than they do and I posted a link to the article I wrote about female singers like Dionne Bromfield, Paloma Faith, V V Brown and Shingai Shoniwa and their response was to tell me that I was xenophobic and nobody who has even the slightest bit of interest in British music would like those stupid bitches. After that, they told me I was a horrible, horrible, disgusting person and banned me. Needless to say I'm feeling really, really, really depressed right now. You should be very proud of yourself for standing up to them instead of caving into the groupthink. The world needs people like you not them
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 14, 2021 14:00:40 GMT
If it's any consolation Burrunjor, (which it probably isn't). I got through to the interview stage for a job application for a position in Carlisle last autumn which I got terribly excited about, because had I got it, it would've meant I could've moved from the big smoke to an area where at least property is affordable and rents aren't crippling. I felt fairly confident before the interview as I've almost 14 years present experience in a similar role, and swotted up beforehand too. However, the interview was the disaster from hell! Things were going smooth until half way through when I suddenly started to be asked what largely seemed irrelevant questions, or open ended non-specific ones seemingly designed to deliberately trip me up. I enquired why this was and they then took an effrontery to being asked such a question and it was down hill all the way from then. Of course I was naturally a bit deflated and pissed from the experience when I was subsequently turned down, but then I figured if these things are meant to be then they will be. If those idiots couldn't take advantage of close on 14 years experiences, then it was their own loss, not mine. Whilst it was obvious HR liked me to have granted me the interview in the first place, it was also apparent that the internal interview staff already had someone in mind for the job anyway and were just going through the application/interview process to satisfy a funding criteria, which is unfortunately an all too regular occurrence in far too many supposedly open vacancies. The overall message is what the hell, there's always tomorrow and other opportunities. You just need to see their loss as being your own gain, as you might end up with something fall in your lap which makes Glasgow Comic Con look f*cking rubbish by comparison. Thanks for that Rob. It's all so disheartening. Also to know those articles I spent ages writing have been completely deleted. It makes me laugh when people complain about toxic fandom. I've honestly probably had a worse experience with toxic fandom than anyone else you know. I've been told to kill myself, smeared as the most disgusting things, dogpiled on 7 to one, had my work destroyed, taken down etc. And again I've not said anything even remotely bigoted or even right wing in my life. It does make me extremely bitter to think that I probably like more female entertainers than all of these clowns who attack me combined! Also maybe some of you can understand why I'm still bitter about the Amy Winehouse thing. I was the only person I know that was calling out that vile misogynistic treatment she got. (Which really WAS. Honestly I wonder how Meghan Markle that everybody loves to virtue signal about now would feel if people were setting up websites devoted to taking bets when she would die? That's just the tip of the iceberg to what Amy got and that's pretty f*cking vile. ) Yet after going through ALL of that. Now my fate is to be smeared as a misogynist and be blacklisted in sci fi fandoms and websites like TV Tropes because I criticised some crappy female versions of male characters and unlike the self loathing spineless fanboys, was consistent and called out both Mary Whitehouse and sjws when they got upset over nothing and changed the direction of the show. Honestly I think I might just quit all of this shit in trying to talk to people on other forums besides this one and the Buffy boards. It's not good for my mental health.
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Post by Brian MK.II on Mar 14, 2021 14:21:28 GMT
I wouldn't worry too much Burrun. Comic Con's are a load of money fleecing shit anyways. As Cryptic Fox said, at least you didn't sell out and give them what they wanted to hear. That alone proves you're worth 10 of them.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 14, 2021 14:27:10 GMT
Yeah I got a gig writing for this site recently. I hoped it might be a good opportunity, but I was soon kicked off for the hideous crime of having an opinion. Basically what happened was they went on about how Gina Carano was an anti semitic bitch and mocked her openly as a stupid bitch that deserved to get fired. I of course defended her and was given a warning not to provoke people or talk about politics. Later one of them praised Missy and Michelle Gomez and when I let it be known what I think of that insult to Roger Delgado. They called me a disgusting sexist, insulted me, said I was a crushing bore and dogpiled on me. I was called a prick and a moron, but for saying that you can't say Missy is like Delgado, I was told not to be so personal and given another warning.. So today the subject of Supergirl came up and I voiced my opinions that female heroes these days aren't written as well, as a lot of the writers behind them are desperate to make female heroes into trophies rather than actual fleshed out characters like Xena and Buffy. I hardly thought that was a controversial stance. One of the cucks on the page sent me a PM calling me a disgusting prick, Another then said I was xenophobic and anti semitic. So I called their bluff in the usual way and said that ironically I probably like more female led things than they do and I posted a link to the article I wrote about female singers like Dionne Bromfield, Paloma Faith, V V Brown and Shingai Shoniwa and their response was to tell me that I was xenophobic and nobody who has even the slightest bit of interest in British music would like those stupid bitches. After that, they told me I was a horrible, horrible, disgusting person and banned me. Needless to say I'm feeling really, really, really depressed right now. You should be very proud of yourself for standing up to them instead of caving into the groupthink. The world needs people like you not them Thanks man that means a lot. Honestly though it's not even as though I was kicked off for my principles. I literally didn't say anything even remotely controversial. I would have thought my complaints about Supergirl were feminist complaints. If anything maybe I was being a bit right on, by saying this is a crappy way to write female characters. I've made those same posts on the Buffy board and everyone has agreed with me! As for the Gina Carano situation, all I can say is it is hilarious that the super feminist BGCP are taking the side of a company that stops a grieving father from putting a Spider-Man picture on his 4 year old sons grave. Disney forces grieving father to remove Spider-Man picture LINK TO ARTICLE
Over an ACTUAL strong independent, inspirational woman. Yeah we wouldn't want her making a company that bullies grieving fathers because they can't milk SOMEONE ELSE'S character for all its worth, or who are okay with modern day concentration camps. Disney criticised LINK TO ARTICLE
Yeah they have an image to maintain. Oh and lets not forget their treatment of Stan Lee himself. Even his own f*cking daughter hates them. Stan Lee's Daughter Condemns Disney LINK TO ARTICLE
I'm with her. I don't even care at this stage if Sony never make another Spider-Man movie. Just to stop Disney from doing one is enough for me LOL. Apparently though siding with that company over a genuinely inspirational and successful female entertainer, and insulting the likes of Emeli Sande and V V Brown and Shingai Shoniwa as stupid bitches is the feminist thing to do.
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 14, 2021 14:29:56 GMT
I wouldn't worry too much Burrun. Comic Con's are a load of money fleecing shit anyways. As Cryptic Fox said, at least you didn't sell out and give them what they wanted to hear. I remember Comic Cons were incredibly cliquey even as far back as the 90's, where everyone had to be given the heads-up to what the next trending items were and all enthusiastically parrot together how wonderful it all was. I used to catch half of them out all jumping on trends saying how marvelous they were and the best thing ever when they hadn't even seen the film or read the f*cking comic to begin with! They can't stand it if someone actually says, "Hmmm, well actually it's a bit rubbish" to a majorly trending and heavily promoted item.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 14, 2021 14:54:31 GMT
I wouldn't worry too much Burrun. Comic Con's are a load of money fleecing shit anyways. As Cryptic Fox said, at least you didn't sell out and give them what they wanted to hear. I remember Comic Cons were incredibly cliquey even as far back as the 90's, where everyone had to be given the heads-up to what the next trending items were and all enthusiastically parrot together how wonderful it all was. I used to catch half of them out all jumping on trends saying how marvelous they were and the best thing ever when they hadn't even seen the film or read the f*cking comic to begin with! They can't stand it if someone actually says, "Hmmm, well actually it's a bit rubbish" to a majorly trending and heavily promoted item. What is it with sci fi and fantasy fandoms being so f*cking cliquey and cult like. I used to think it was just Doctor Who, but this shows you it's everywhere. Why do they feel they need to belong to a stupid little tribe?
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Post by Brian MK.II on Mar 14, 2021 14:55:03 GMT
I wouldn't worry too much Burrun. Comic Con's are a load of money fleecing shit anyways. As Cryptic Fox said, at least you didn't sell out and give them what they wanted to hear. I remember Comic Cons were incredibly cliquey even as far back as the 90's, where everyone had to be given the heads-up to what the next trending items were and all enthusiastically parrot together how wonderful it all was. I used to catch half of them out all jumping on trends saying how marvelous they were and the best thing ever when they hadn't even seen the film or read the f*cking comic to begin with! They can't stand it if someone actually says, "Hmmm, well actually it's a bit rubbish" to a majorly trending and heavily promoted item. Can't really speak for big mainstream ones but I did attend a few small Dr Who ones in the 90s and even then, you only had to pay for entry and even on the rare chance they did charge for autographs, they were usually at a cheap price compared to nowadays when even the third Cyberman on the right in a deleted scene will try and part you from a twenty. That said, I'll agree that even then with fandumb, there was an air of elitism among some sticking rigidly to Fuhrer Cornell's wise words.
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 14, 2021 15:43:11 GMT
What is it with sci fi and fantasy fandoms being so f*cking cliquey and cult like. I used to think it was just Doctor Who, but this shows you it's everywhere. Why do they feel they need to belong to a stupid little tribe? I think it's the media in general, mate. It doesn't matter what part of it you hang out, they're all a bunch of f*cking luvvies.
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Post by iank on Mar 14, 2021 20:53:38 GMT
No one needs losers. They're losers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 21:56:24 GMT
You have to play the game to stay in the game.
There's no such thing as integrity in writing gigs these days. Who you work for determines how you write.
It's a poison that runs through all journalism and criticism now. Nearly all media is access media, whether that be in politics, sport or whatever.
Everyone is stymied when they brush against the grain. Doesn't matter what the ideology of the organisation is. One of the most egregious examples is how Robert Peston and Laura K suck our lunatic government's teat in order to be the first to get exclusives on initiatives, policies, etc.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 15, 2021 9:09:52 GMT
You have to play the game to stay in the game. There's no such thing as integrity in writing gigs these days. Who you work for determines how you write. It's a poison that runs through all journalism and criticism now. Nearly all media is access media, whether that be in politics, sport or whatever. Everyone is stymied when they brush against the grain. Doesn't matter what the ideology of the organisation is. One of the most egregious examples is how Robert Peston and Laura K suck our lunatic government's teat in order to be the first to get exclusives on initiatives, policies, etc. 100 percent right, but what is hilarious about this is that it wasn't even as though I was standing up for my principles. I was booted for pointing out how badly a lot of female heroes are written these days, because writers tend to focus on "OH MY GOD LOOK HOW AMAZING IT IS HAVING A WOMAN" than in actually giving them proper, three dimensional characters like Xena, Buffy, the Charmed ones etc. I would have thought that was ironically a feminist complaint? Entire f*cking channels have been set up by feminist authors to talk about how badly written female characters are in the mainstream media, about some female characters are just fantasies etc. I guess the guys who ran BGCP must be so cucked, so spineless, that literally ANY criticism of a female character from a guy. Even if it's the same type of criticism you see from feminist channels is seen as a misogynist dude bro attacking the womenz. Funny thing is I said that exact same complaint on the Buffy board earlier (where the majority are women) and I got an overwhelmingly positive response LOL. Female dominated fandoms are better sadly because they aren't so cucked. (Though that's NOT to say that there aren't awful, awful women in sci fi fandoms too. There were some really nasty women on that page calling me a misogynist, but in a female dominated fandom they'll generally tend to get called out more, because again they're not so pathetically desperate to be seen as right on and not a sad anorak that they treat them like the bullies they are.)
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 12, 2021 8:59:35 GMT
Katee Sackhoff a famous and respected genre leading lady has said EXACTLY the same thing about female heroes that I did and that got me banned/fired, slandered, and insulted by the gits at Big Glasgow Comic Con. (They also destroyed articles I'd spent ages writing too. Modern day book burning.) f*cking hysterical. I guess these wankers will have to ban Katee Sackhoff from all future events and call her a baw bag and a garbage human being who should be thrown in the trash then? Clearly she knows less about female empowerment than these guys. (PS I'd rather be a bawbag than be someone who traded my balls along with my credibility to be accepted by a bunch of upper middle class career feminists.) UGH this just proves what I'm saying. There is nothing worse than a self loathing fanboy desperate to show how much more progressive he is than the other apes in fandom. See also Paul Cornell and Mr Tardis. Ironically female led series where these gits are least likely to be, (as they can't lord it over others there.) Are the only series with decent fandoms anymore.
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