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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 22:15:31 GMT
I think Renard from TWINE is probably the worst. He's bigged up to be this dangerous terrorist but he's pretty lame in the scenes he's in and not very threatening.
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Post by rushy on Aug 9, 2022 1:17:29 GMT
I think Renard from TWINE is probably the worst. He's bigged up to be this dangerous terrorist but he's pretty lame in the scenes he's in and not very threatening. I have a big soft spot for Renard, as Robert Carlyle is one of my favourite actors ever. I'd argue that his talent actually helps to sell the Elektra twist, as it might have been more obvious if the villain was a henchman type. Carlyle is good enough to have been the main antagonist. As for my least favourite, my candidates would be Largo, Stromberg, Kristatos (Julian Glover is another actor who should've been given a much better character), the two nitwits in Daylights and Christoph Waltz's version of Blofeld. |
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Post by Brian MK.II on Aug 9, 2022 1:37:15 GMT
Blofeld (Charles Gray): Massive let down after Pleasance and Savalas's interpretations, Gray seems like an evil Mr Humphries in comparison.
Kamal Khan: Non of the Moore era villains were terrible but Khan, despite his cool endangered species line, is the most forgettable and nondescript.
Brad Whittaker: Koskov, although a mild irritant at times, is at least interesting at how he plays both sides off against each other. Whittaker on the other hand, is a pillock who despite an cool final battle with Bond and subsequent death scene, mostly stands round barking and being an nuisance.
Elliot Carver: Jonathan Pryce's performance is entertaining in the right mood and in today's times, can be viewed as an prophetic satire piece, but at the same time, he's possibly the most ineffectual Brosnan villain, mostly mincing about before getting turned into mincemeat.
Gustav Graves: Graves is a good villain on his own but the whole DNA alteration subplot is f**king dunderheaded that he loses credibility.
Dominic Green: Non entity who I can barely even remember what happened to him (providing I can stay awake long enough to find out).
Blofeld/ Franz Oberhauser: As with Graves, I'd say in the performance stakes, he's good but is let down by a shitty plot twist and to cap it off, an unceremonious death that's glossed over.
Safin: He should be an significant villain as he's the one who succeeds in doing what all the other villains failed to do, but he's just there for the most part and as with Oberhauser, suffers from a tacked on unnecessary subplot.
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 9, 2022 7:59:13 GMT
Blofeld (Charles Gray): Massive let down after Pleasance and Savalas's interpretations, Gray seems like an evil Mr Humphries in comparison. Kamal Khan: Non of the Moore era villains were terrible but Khan, despite his cool endangered species line, is the most forgettable and nondescript. Brad Whittaker: Koskov, although a mild irritant at times, is at least interesting at how he plays both sides off against each other. Whittaker on the other hand, is a bit of a pillock who despite an cool death scene, mostly stands round barking and being an nuisance. Elliot Carver: Jonathan Pryce's performance is entertaining in the right mood and in today's times, can be viewed as an prophetic satire piece, but at the same time, he's possibly the most ineffectual Brosnan villain, mostly prancing about before getting turned into mincemeat. Gustav Graves: Graves is a good villain on his own but the whole DNA alteration subplot is f**king dunderheaded that he loses credibility. Dominic Green: Non entity who I can barely even remember what happened to him (providing I can stay awake long enough to find out). Blofeld/Oberhauser: As with Graves, I'd say in the performance stakes, he's good but is let down by a shitty plot twist and to cap it off, an unceremonious death that's glossed over. Safin: He should be an significant villain as he's the one who succeeds in doing what all the other villains failed to do, but he's just there for the most part and as with Oberhauser, suffers from a tacked on unnecessary subplot.I agree with all of those. Especially Pryce. Good actor, but he played that almost like a comedy character and his plan to take control of a tv station for 100 years is laughable. I also agree with Maxil to some extent that Robert Carlyle's villain was a bit underwhelming. You guys know I love Carlyle as an actor and he makes an amazing villain normally, but this one, it's hard to say. It's not bad, but it just doesn't really feel like anything special. Maybe the hype of it being Robert Carlyle and a bond villain was too much for me, but overall I don't think they knew what they really wanted with him. He's neither cool, suave or a match for Bond intellectually like Stromberg, nor is he much of a physical menace like Jaws, nor does he go all out crazy like Christopher Walken or Donald Pleasance. It seems like they try to go for all of them, but don't master any. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 16:53:17 GMT
Blofeld (Charles Gray): Massive let down after Pleasance and Savalas's interpretations, Gray seems like an evil Mr Humphries in comparison. Kamal Khan: Non of the Moore era villains were terrible but Khan, despite his cool endangered species line, is the most forgettable and nondescript. Brad Whittaker: Koskov, although a mild irritant at times, is at least interesting at how he plays both sides off against each other. Whittaker on the other hand, is a pillock who despite an cool final battle with Bond and subsequent death scene, mostly stands round barking and being an nuisance. Elliot Carver: Jonathan Pryce's performance is entertaining in the right mood and in today's times, can be viewed as an prophetic satire piece, but at the same time, he's possibly the most ineffectual Brosnan villain, mostly mincing about before getting turned into mincemeat. Gustav Graves: Graves is a good villain on his own but the whole DNA alteration subplot is f**king dunderheaded that he loses credibility. Dominic Green: Non entity who I can barely even remember what happened to him (providing I can stay awake long enough to find out). Blofeld/ Franz Oberhauser: As with Graves, I'd say in the performance stakes, he's good but is let down by a shitty plot twist and to cap it off, an unceremonious death that's glossed over. Safin: He should be an significant villain as he's the one who succeeds in doing what all the other villains failed to do, but he's just there for the most part and as with Oberhauser, suffers from a tacked on unnecessary subplot.I love Graves a lot. "Oh look, parachutes for the both of us!" Throws one out of the window... "Whoops! Not anymore"  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 16:57:13 GMT
I think Renard from TWINE is probably the worst. He's bigged up to be this dangerous terrorist but he's pretty lame in the scenes he's in and not very threatening. I have a big soft spot for Renard, as Robert Carlyle is one of my favourite actors ever. I'd argue that his talent actually helps to sell the Elektra twist, as it might have been more obvious if the villain was a henchman type. Carlyle is good enough to have been the main antagonist. As for my least favourite, my candidates would be Largo, Stromberg, Kristatos (Julian Glover is another actor who should've been given a much better character), the two nitwits in Daylights and Christoph Waltz's version of Blofeld. I find Elektra to be a much better villain in that film. Sophie really makes the character come across as a real cold hearted person when she's revealed to be the villain. I have nothing against Carlyle, I just think the character isn't that well written. I agree with Whittaker and to some extent Koskov. I think the bloke playing Whittaker is much better as a comical character like Wade from the Brosnan films. He doesn't cut it as the villain. It's a shame because the henchman of the film, Necros, is one of the very best in my opinion. |
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Post by iank on Aug 9, 2022 21:02:58 GMT
The boring dude from Octopussy. Berkoff's mad Russian General should have been the main villain.
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Post by burrunjor on Aug 9, 2022 22:10:49 GMT
The boring dude from Octopussy. Berkoff's mad Russian General should have been the main villain. I honestly don't even remember the villain from Octopussy. Coming after so many memorable villains like Stromberg, Christopher Lee, Nik Nak, Jaws, Drax, Julian Glover and coming before Walken and Grace Jones, it just makes him even more forgettable. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 22:49:29 GMT
Greene from Quantum of Solace. I was amazed at how terrible he was when I watched the film last night. What the f*ck did he even do? He's the least threatening weasel I've ever seen in a movie. The acting is abysmal too. What was all that screaming at the end of the film when he's fighting Bond? Embarrassing, just like the putrid movie he's in.
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