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Post by burrunjor on Jul 31, 2022 17:39:18 GMT
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 31, 2022 17:40:45 GMT
Sorry for some reason I thought that it was Ncutti rather than Ncuti. Wasn't having a go at the guy. He seems like a nice guy, the same of which can safely NOT be said about Harris.
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Post by iank on Jul 31, 2022 20:58:56 GMT
I think it's fairly obvious the actor is gay, and I assume that's all he's saying. If the character is, I won't be watching.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 31, 2022 21:18:06 GMT
I think it's fairly obvious the actor is gay, and I assume that's all he's saying. If the character is, I won't be watching. You were planning on watching it anyway? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 21:19:53 GMT
I'm uncomfortable with Neil Patruck Harris being attached to the series. All these "be kind" messages the show promotes and they cast someone as nasty as that.
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Post by iank on Jul 31, 2022 21:27:31 GMT
I think it's fairly obvious the actor is gay, and I assume that's all he's saying. If the character is, I won't be watching. You were planning on watching it anyway? I'm willing to have an open mind. It's not looking good, though, I'll grant you. |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 31, 2022 22:11:41 GMT
You were planning on watching it anyway? I'm willing to have an open mind. It's not looking good, though, I'll grant you. They don't deserve your time. When you think what they have actually done to this series, yet people still come back simply because it bares the name of something that was once good, which they have shown nothing but disrespect too. Missy alone should have been enough to make us leave. That was utterly unforgivable. |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 31, 2022 22:22:08 GMT
I'm uncomfortable with Neil Patruck Harris being attached to the series. All these "be kind" messages the show promotes and they cast someone as nasty as that. It's not even so much casting a nasty guy. Sadly the industry is full of c*nts. However the fact that DW fandom is so full of righteous c*nts who order the makers to do things like fire James Dreyfus and Gareth Roberts for doing so much less than Harris is proof of how hollow the c*nts that make this show and its fandoms politics are.     www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48526656Oh and then there is Peter Davison that they chased off for being toxic www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-07-24/doctor-who-star-peter-davison-calls-it-a-day-on-twitter-after-toxicity-around-female-doctor-comments/Meanwhile here is the guy who they are enthusiastic about, or haven't shown any concern over being cast.  Face facts, DW fans are by and large, hysterical, bullying, hypocritical, freaks and morons. I don't like to say I am a DW fan anymore. For the first time I am deeply embarrassed. |
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Post by rushy on Jul 31, 2022 22:36:03 GMT
I don't mind this, mainly bc of my headcanon that the Doctor isn't one person. Every time he regenerates, he truly dies and becomes someone else, and has to decide what to make of several hundred years' worth of memories.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 31, 2022 22:49:54 GMT
I don't mind this, mainly bc of my headcanon that the Doctor isn't one person. Every time he regenerates, he truly dies and becomes someone else, and has to decide what to make of several hundred years' worth of memories. Sorry but that's the opposite of what it should be for me. When you do that, then all of the main story arcs in the classic era are destroyed. His feud with Davros, the Master, the Daleks, his friendship with the Brig, all of his companions, his relationship with the Time Lords etc. NONE of them make any lick of sense if the Doctors are different people. Why does Peter Davison feel guilty over not destroying the Daleks in Genesis? Why do later Doctors talk to Davros about past events as though they were there? "Every time our paths have crossed I have defeated you! Last time we met your ship blew up? Your conversations totally predictable." Why do later Masters hate the Doctor for past defeats? Why is the Master trying to get new regenerations when he is scared of death? He'll regenerate and die anyway? Why does the Doctor act like the Brig is an old friend? It's just not written or acted where they are all different people linked by memories, like say the Slayers in Buffy or the Trill in Star Trek. Watch Star Trek, and you'll see that the narrative makes it very clear that it is just the memories that carry on with Trills hosts. They outright state the new host of the Trill is not the same person to someone who knew the previous host even if they have the memories. If DW wanted regeneration to be that, we would have Jon Pertwee saying "Brigadier, I know you from my predecessors memories." Rather than "Ah it's good to see you again Brigadier. I can't have changed that much." The Doctor just wasn't designed for that, and that's why all this nonsense with New Who, making him a womanizer, a woman, and a furry etc, has turned it into a parody of itself. |
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Post by rushy on Jul 31, 2022 23:42:59 GMT
I don't mind this, mainly bc of my headcanon that the Doctor isn't one person. Every time he regenerates, he truly dies and becomes someone else, and has to decide what to make of several hundred years' worth of memories. Sorry but that's the opposite of what it should be for me. When you do that, then all of the main story arcs in the classic era are destroyed. His feud with Davros, the Master, the Daleks, his friendship with the Brig, all of his companions, his relationship with the Time Lords etc. NONE of them make any lick of sense if the Doctors are different people. Why does Peter Davison feel guilty over not destroying the Daleks in Genesis? Why do later Doctors talk to Davros about past events as though they were there? "Every time our paths have crossed I have defeated you! Last time we met your ship blew up? Your conversations totally predictable." Why do later Masters hate the Doctor for past defeats? Why is the Master trying to get new regenerations when he is scared of death? He'll regenerate and die anyway? Why does the Doctor act like the Brig is an old friend? I mean, he still has those memories. He chooses to continue being the same man, to carry on that legacy. And he judges the Brigadier as a good person and the Daleks as evil based on the experiences and viewpoints of his predecessors, which heavily inform his decisionmaking now. Again, I'm not saying it has to be canon, it's just how I choose to view the show, to get the most out of it. I like the idea that every Doctor's life matters, that changing is not just something he does to heal himself, but that there's a tangible sense of loss whenever he regenerates. The Tenth Doctor's desire to retain his particular identity is much more interesting to me than the "it's ok kids, he's fine" approach of the Moffat years. It was Power of the Daleks that gave me the idea, when Troughton's talking about the Doctor in third person. He says "The Doctor was a great collector, wasn't he?" as if he hadn't decided or realised he's the same person yet. |
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Post by rushy on Jul 31, 2022 23:46:24 GMT
He could also be acting like he's the same exact man simply to not confuse the Brigadier. "Hi, I've got a new face" is easier for him to understand than "Hi, I'm the Doctor, I have his memories, but also I'm not the Doctor".
The Master's incarnations always seem to fight in multi-Master stories, so it could be that he wants new regenerations only to absolutely ensure that his identity won't be lost forever, before focusing on protecting his current self. Beevers' Master in particular was motivated by a thirst for dark knowledge.
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