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Post by zarius on Jul 22, 2022 14:56:08 GMT
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 22, 2022 15:37:54 GMT
Said it before and I'll say it again. Why can't these bastards move on? To think they were once they little turds bitching in DWB about how JNT is staying on too long as the producer.
What's Moffat going to do now? Bring back Missy, or butcher another classic character that way to show how he is totally a feminist writer. Only good thing is that they STILL call him a misogynist.
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Post by cyberhat on Jul 22, 2022 18:45:51 GMT
I'd feel aggrieved if I was Moffat, he did more than RTD to drag DW into the 7th level of woke helldom. Wasn't it him that wrote that "too much testosterone" line? Then everyone calls him a misogynist!! Poor fella, he does all that work to push misandry, then to get labelled a woman hater. I'd actually cry about this injustice, that's if I could care less and didn't consider every bit of moralising in Who for the past 20 years beneath contempt and from a totally phoney place several galaxies away from a heart. Apart from that.
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Post by iank on Jul 22, 2022 22:14:50 GMT
He's still less shit than Davies, and if not running the show he might be able to come up with a decent script or two.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 22, 2022 22:44:56 GMT
I'd feel aggrieved if I was Moffat, he did more than RTD to drag DW into the 7th level of woke helldom. Wasn't it him that wrote that "too much testosterone" line? Then everyone calls him a misogynist!! Poor fella, he does all that work to push misandry, then to get labelled a woman hater. I'd actually cry about this injustice, that's if I could care less and didn't consider every bit of moralising in Who for the past 20 years beneath contempt and from a totally phoney place several galaxies away from a heart. Apart from that. This recent article is a prime example of how Moffat is still viewed as misogynistic and problematic. www.polygon.com/23172599/steven-moffat-tv-doctor-who-sherlockI don't feel bad for him though as he completely and utterly sold classic era fans, his own fans and even the legacy of New Who as a show in itself down the river to try and win favour with what he thought was the cool, young, hip millenial crowd. He destroyed other people's iconic characters like the Master, and then hid behind PC bullshit to make that abomination Missy untouchable. (We're still suffering from that shit now.) He also pushed the idea that the show had no constants and identity even further than RTD. Case in point, RTD refused to do a spin off called Young DW because he thought it would ruin the character, whilst Moffat went ahead and did his god awful hybrid origin story, which wasn't much better than the Timeless Children Retcon. He also brought the whole show to the brink of cancellation too, viewers down at 2 million, year long gaps etc, those all started with that clown before Chibnall. Then there is the fact that he chose Chibnall, which I still think was the pricks attempt to not go down as the worst showrunner. (Do you really think he would have wanted to hand it over to someone like Peter Jackson who would have done a successful, big budget sci fi show that would have further shown up Pissy Missy, the Impossible Girl, the Hybrid as the moronic dribble it was to an even greater extent? Nope, like Tiberius before him, he chose the absolute worst guy he could.) Thankfully however all his arse kissing, and dirty tricks and bullying he just ended up destroying his reputation among people who did respect him, whilst the woke crowd still hate his guts. |
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Post by cyberhat on Jul 22, 2022 22:55:36 GMT
And what's with his petty hatred of William Hartnell? It's as if he likes old school eccentricities, his cool friends won't like him.
Moffat seems to have this self image of himself being The Fonz when he's really Dwayne Dibley.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 22, 2022 23:01:03 GMT
And what's with his petty hatred of William Hartnell? It's as if he likes old school eccentricities, his cool friends won't like him. Moffat seems to have this self image of himself being The Fonz when he's really Dwayne Dibley. His hatred of William Hartnell sums up why his approach to the show is all wrong. Even when he was trying to kiss Hartnell's arse during the 50th through gritted teeth, he went on about how nothing about the Doctor came from Hartnell. It was all Troughton. Really if you can't see how there is any of Hartnell's performance in the Doctor at all, you clearly don't get the character. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 13:42:51 GMT
I didn't know Moffat hated Hartnell. The awfully written portrayal of the First Doctor in Moffat's last story makes so much sense now.
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Post by rushy on Jul 23, 2022 14:30:57 GMT
I'm terrified of Steve coming back. RTD at least takes his writing seriously. Moffat started out well, but by Capaldi's era, had completely run out of f*cks to give and spent years just toying around with the audience.
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Post by Spark Doll King on Jul 25, 2022 8:47:57 GMT
FFS
The longer nuwho goes on for, the more it exceeds my worse expectations. What the f*ck is going on? How can it possibly have gotten this bad?
I used to say that the show was stuck, unable to move on from Tennent, but I see now it’s even worse then that. The show is paralysed. Stuck in and in an unending loop of decay. It can’t die, but canopy get better either.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Jul 25, 2022 14:31:46 GMT
FFS The longer nuwho goes on for, the more it exceeds my worse expectations. What the f*ck is going on? How can it possibly have gotten this bad? I used to say that the show was stuck, unable to move on from Tennent, but I see now it’s even worse then that. The show is paralysed. Stuck in and in an unending loop of decay. It can’t die, but canopy get better either. Yeah, it's sort of been stricken with a comorbid case of entropy and chronic hysteresis. It would appear that in its death throes nuwho is trying to tun into season 18.
How ironic...
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Post by cyberhat on Jul 25, 2022 20:00:01 GMT
FFS The longer nuwho goes on for, the more it exceeds my worse expectations. What the f*ck is going on? How can it possibly have gotten this bad? I used to say that the show was stuck, unable to move on from Tennent, but I see now it’s even worse then that. The show is paralysed. Stuck in and in an unending loop of decay. It can’t die, but canopy get better either. On the optimistic side, maybe this had to happen. Hopefully New New Who will die on it's arse, killing New Who's outrageously undeserved legend in the process. Only then can a phoenix rise from the ashes. |
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Post by rushy on Jul 25, 2022 20:22:36 GMT
FFS The longer nuwho goes on for, the more it exceeds my worse expectations. What the f*ck is going on? How can it possibly have gotten this bad? I used to say that the show was stuck, unable to move on from Tennent, but I see now it’s even worse then that. The show is paralysed. Stuck in and in an unending loop of decay. It can’t die, but canopy get better either. On the optimistic side, maybe this had to happen. Hopefully New New Who will die on it's arse, killing New Who's outrageously undeserved legend in the process. Only then can a phoenix rise from the ashes. That reminds me, Tennant is 100% going to make a "New New New Doctor" joke RTD's era had so many f*cking memes and he probably has a checklist ready for them. Molto bene! |
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Post by iank on Jul 25, 2022 20:54:38 GMT
New Who is a metaphor the decaying 21st century west. Riddled with corruption from the top down.
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