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Post by cyberhat on May 14, 2022 2:57:06 GMT
"Everybody likes to attack it until we have a pandemic or a massive war and then everyone asks, ‘Can you tell us the truth, please?’ and the BBC does that.” - Chibnall defending the BBC www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-centenary-special-preview-newsupdate/The BBC tell the truth during wars according to Chris. Whereas I always thought it was a propaganda outlet there to manufacture consent for western imperialism myself. When any of the locals fight back against our slaughter it's "terrorism", whenever we commit atrocities against them it's "clashes". Then again Chris is a man that commissions stories where Amazon is the hero and workers standing up for themselves the villain. Here's the BBC telling "truth" about war
About 3:05 in
And Chris, a Chomsky/Andrew Marr interview section I recommend you watch
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Post by iank on May 14, 2022 4:01:53 GMT
lols They're so full of shit it hurts.
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Post by Bernard Marx on May 14, 2022 6:23:18 GMT
"Everybody likes to attack it until we have a pandemic or a massive war and then everyone asks, ‘Can you tell us the truth, please?’ and the BBC does that.” - Chibnall defending the BBC www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-centenary-special-preview-newsupdate/The BBC tell the truth during wars according to Chris. Whereas I always thought it was a propaganda outlet there to manufacture consent for western imperialism myself. When any of the locals fight back against our slaughter it's "terrorism", whenever we commit atrocities against them it's "clashes". Then again Chris is a man that commissions stories where Amazon is the hero and workers standing up for themselves the villain. Here's the BBC telling "truth" about war
About 3:05 in
And Chris, a Chomsky/Andrew Marr interview section I recommend you watch
Yep. That’s because Chibnall’s era (and understanding of politics) is actually rooted in pro-authoritarian and pro-consumerist thinking. If you protest against big corporations, you’re apparently “using and exploiting the systems”, which themselves are supposedly perfect. Seems to bely the anti-neoliberal subtext of stories like Revelation of the Daleks, whereby Davros, the story’s central antagonist, declares his opposition to “consumer resistance” whilst declaring himself a “Great Healer”... Chibnall ought to take notes from Gramsci on that score. He's just perpetuating the BBC's hegemonic influence. The BBC claim to hold the powerful to account, but it’s bollocks. They routinely feature news presenters who mindlessly regurgitate headlines from tabloid newspapers as evidence of “impartiality” whilst nary bothering to challenge them. One need only turn to someone like Laura Kuenssberg for proof of that, or their depiction of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as “aggressors on both sides”, their lionisation of war (The Day Today looks ever more prescient with every passing day) and demonisation of left-wing figures (just ask Barnaby Raine, a Jewish activist who was constantly interrupted when speaking out against their narrative on Corbyn). Most people who operate within the BBC are preoccupied with materialist media-management, triangulation and careerism. As Chomsky alludes to, journalists don’t need to phone each other to coordinate a media attack or narrative because they already understand how the game works. |
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Post by burrunjor on May 14, 2022 7:52:22 GMT
I knew it. I f*cking knew it. Didn't I always say he is a Frankie Boyle type? Someone without a genuine left wing bone in his body, who only latches onto the most shallow woke, SJW fads because he thinks it will put him ahead?
PS I found this on Claudia Boleyn's twitter feed, she was outraged of course at this and rightfully so. Another example of the BBC's totally unbiased and fair reporting.
You know that journalist Shireen Abu Akleh that was murdered? Well Israeli forces attacked the pall bearers at her funeral. Armed forces with body armour beating civilians mourning their friend who was butchered by Israeli forces.
This meanwhile is how the BBC described it.
Violence breaks out at funeral of reporter Shireen Abu Aqla in East Jerusalem
Her coffin was jostled as Israeli police and Palestinians clashed as it left hospital
A f*cking disgrace. It's not a clash if one side have battons and are beating the other. I guess though if Shireen had diddled some kids then they'd have given her a Christmas tribute?
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Post by cyberhat on May 15, 2022 11:49:54 GMT
New Who was never left wing, it was always shitlib. As Eccleston found out when he saw the way workers were treated on set.
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Post by Bernard Marx on May 15, 2022 12:05:40 GMT
New Who was never left wing, it was always shitlib. As Eccleston found out when he saw the way workers were treated on set. NuWho's main political audience are essentially social liberals/Blairites, and always has been. The programme has never had any interest in making any kind of multi-faceted political commentary. I hear people routinely describe RTD as a left-wing writer, yet I don't see the evidence for this. Put it this way: You'd be hard-pressed to ever countenance someone like Malcolm Hulke contributing to the programme, not that he'd think remotely highly of such a series anyway. |
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Post by cyberhat on May 15, 2022 13:22:39 GMT
New Who was never left wing, it was always shitlib. As Eccleston found out when he saw the way workers were treated on set. NuWho's main political audience are essentially social liberals/Blairites, and always has been. The programme has never had any interest in making any kind of multi-faceted political commentary. I hear people routinely describe RTD as a left-wing writer, yet I don't see the evidence for this. Put it this way: You'd be hard-pressed to ever countenance someone like Malcolm Hulke contributing to the programme, not that he'd think remotely highly of such a series anyway. Selling the Torified history of World War II, identity politics obsessed, hiring centrist Twitterers like Gatiss and Cornell. The only voice dissenting from the Fitzroy clan being Gareth bleeding Roberts, who's even further to the right than they are.
Hulke saw art as complexity, New Who sees it as a platform to give a shallow lecture.
PS My experience of Blairites is they're almost always culturally Naoist (a portmanteau between Maoist and now). People who obsessively worship the present. Can't stop talking about the latest American bullshit streaming show. Can't wait to shit on Play For Today's or old Python shows or anything else from the past which is intellectually their superior. New Who in a nutshell.
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Post by UncleDeadly on May 15, 2022 14:16:32 GMT
The only voice dissenting from the Fitzroy clan being Gareth bleeding Roberts, who's even further to the right than they are.
Nah, the only real dissenting voice is Lawrence Miles and he deserves the credit as he f*cked himself over severely in the process of telling the truth about those people. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on May 15, 2022 14:34:49 GMT
Put it this way: You'd be hard-pressed to ever countenance someone like Malcolm Hulke contributing to the programme, not that he'd think remotely highly of such a series anyway. Oh, he'd never be invited. Straight on the "Ming-Mong" list. Anything genuinely left-wing is "loony" and anything resembling criticism or a contentious opinion is "negative" thus rendering you a "negative person". Imagine anyone on Graham Norton's Friday Night Kiss-Arse daring to utter anything like "Actually, i didn't think it was very good..."
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Post by ClockworkOcean on May 15, 2022 15:07:06 GMT
I'm not the least bit surprised. His co-producer Matt Strevens is a hardcore Blairite and anti-Corbyn obsessive.
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Post by cyberhat on May 15, 2022 16:52:40 GMT
The reason liberals are so obsessed with identity politics is because it's the one left wing issue that doesn't mean you get taxed more. At least that's the way they see it.
I always thought the most appallingly immoral piece of centrism in Nupoo was the end of Rosa. Where the highlight of Rosa Parks life was apparently Bill Clinton giving her a medal. The same Bill Clinton that gave us the 1994 Crime Bill, that put more black people in prison than there were slaves.
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Post by burrunjor on May 15, 2022 17:28:21 GMT
The reason liberals are so obsessed with identity politics is because it's the one left wing issue that doesn't mean you get taxed more. At least that's the way they see it. I always thought the most appallingly immoral piece of centrism in Nupoo was the end of Rosa. Where the highlight of Rosa Parks life was apparently Bill Clinton giving her a medal. The same Bill Clinton that gave us the 1994 Crime Bill, that put more black people in prison than there were slaves. Thank you for pointing that out. Don't why I missed that considering my hatred of the Clintons LOL. I guess I was too busy rolling my eyes watching Jodie gurn "Roza parks endet racism ya know Yaz." Also as someone pointed out the idea that Rosa Parks getting an asteroid named after her is some huge kind of honour that demonstrates her place in history is hilarious, when you consider that Sheldon Cooper got one named after him. Bazinga Chibnall. I think a lot of them turn to identity politics because it's easy. It doesn't take much to say "I'm against racism, sexism and homophobia." In the 2020s that's kind of the bare minimum to being a decent human being. I'd expect someone on the left or who is really invested in politics to make a slightly more meaningful statement than that. Also don't forget Yaz saying Barack Obama was a step forward for her, a Muslim woman. Leaving aside how dishonest it is to compare the current situation with Islam in the UK to America in the 70s. That would be Obama who helped overthrow a secular Muslim leader in Gaddaffi and helped create a massive Muslim refugee crisis? But hey he's black so there. |
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 14, 2022 19:11:30 GMT
I'm not the least bit surprised. His co-producer Matt Strevens is a hardcore Blairite and anti-Corbyn obsessive. I can only imagine his thought-processes. "How dare someone suggest that systemic inequality, and the continuation of a 40-year long failed economic project which revels in persecuting the poorest in society, is a bad thing? Marxist loony! Racist!" "What we really need is a script where the Doctor uses the Master's race against him, becomes a tool to the Gallifreyan establishment, champions pro-corporate and anti-worker rhetoric, and all whilst warbling on about Ed 'God save the Queen' Sheeran. That's bound to reinforce my progressive credentials." "After all, it's clearly what my audience wants. Why should I assume they'd be interested in anything more respectful of their intelligence, or true to the ethos of a fundamentally anti-establishment character in fiction?" |
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