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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 0:36:00 GMT
Your top 5 from any medium, film, tv, comic, novels. 1) King Kong vs Tarzan  2) The Three Doctors  3) Superman vs Aliens  4) Predator vs Magnus, Robot Fighter  5) Cyborg 009 vs Devilman  |
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 30, 2022 19:01:05 GMT
Good question. 1/ Batman vs Hulk. I can't remember what this issue is called, but it's written by Len Wein and it is amazing. I'm not even that big of a Hulk fan, but this story brought them together brilliantly and the Joker is at his absolute best here. You can't beat the 70s Joker. Hilarious and cruel in equal measure. 2/ Spider-Man and Batman. Another great story. Joker and Carnage are two of my fave villains of all time and I think the story uses them both well. I always loved Carnage as a dirty coward underneath his symbiote which this story does, whilst the Joker is as crazy as ever. 3/ Alien Vs Predator. Shoot me but I loved this movie. It's great dumb fun, and it actually uses both monsters well. I despise a lot of the AVP media, because it completely and utterly undermines the Alien, turning it into a punching bag for the Predator. This movie however uses both monsters well. The Predator is the ultimately hunter, and has the best weapons and is smarter, whilst the Alien is the ultimate natural killer and thus is stronger, has more physical advantages like its acid blood and long tail etc. Therefore the Predators can kill dozens of aliens with their weapons, whilst in close quarters the alien tends to dominate and can mince multiple Predators. (Though even then the Alien is still smart and can outsmart the Predator, and the Predator can still fight the Alien and overcome it too.) All crossovers should do that. They should when pairing villains up, play to each others strengths. However sadly most fanboys will just have their fave thrash the other one. RTD did this with the Daleks and the Cybermen, and to show I'm not biased the DCAU did this with the Joker and Luther, with Lex being undermined completely for Mr J. This story however showed respect to both. 4/ Kong vs Godzilla. The 2021 version. I don't know if you could call this a crossover as they are in the same continuity, but what the hell normally they aren't. This is one of the best monster films of all time. It's a childhood dream to see Godzilla and King Kong as friends, and throwing in Mechagodzilla in for good measure and a land under the earth filled with giant monsters, and it's one of my fave films of the decade. Only knock a few points off as Kong is a bit undermined. He gets almost beaten to death by Godzilla, so unlike AVP it did kind of undermine one for the other. 5/ Loved the Angel episode In The Dark, which was a crossover with Buffy. Spike is at his best as a villain in that episode and his commentary about Angel on the roof is a classic. It's just so f*cking true! The bit with Angel and Fred in the cave when she's all "handsome man saved me from the monsters." Is just Spike's impression beat for beat.  Crossovers I'd like to see meanwhile include. Buffy and Xena. (The two big cheesy, 90s feminist icons have to meet! Someone at least cast Lucy Lawless and Sarah Michelle Gellar in something together. Even a cartoon!) Buffy and Evil Dead.) Now THIS one would work better than any other. They both have pretty much the same backstory and could a very similar style and the makers of both are huge fans of each other. I'm baffled it never happened? Doctor Who and Star Trek: I think this one would have worked if you had them both take place in alternate universes to each other, unlike Buffy and Evil Dead. Their universes are too big to exist in the same reality. Obviously however you wouldn't want it to happen now given the state of them both. Spock is a serial killer that wants to shag his sister, the Doctor is space Jesus ugh. Had they done it in the 70s with Jon Pertwee's Doctor and William Shatner that would have worked. I would have loved a fight between Pertwee and Kirk. What would triumph? The Kirk chop or Venusian karate? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 21:33:37 GMT
Some great ideas there burrunjor, and you’ve encouraged me to suggest some of my own.
Tarzan/Turok: In The Land That Time Forgot. Teaming up my favourite pulp and comic characters on the island of Caspak. Taking a little inspiration from another crossover, Tarzan vs Predator: At The Earths Core, it’s a team up between to very similar character from very different backgrounds. I picked Caspak as the location for the story as it’s sort of neutral ground for the pair, yet provides similar challenges the two would be familiar with. Tarzan has faced dinosaurs before, while Turok battles them every in the Lost Land. Another reason for picking Caspak is that it’s one of the few Burroughs locations Tarzan has not been to prior, as he has been to Pellucidar (the Earth’s Core) and Barsoom (Mars). Given how Caspak works, I foresee each character coming into conflict as a result of siding with the different tribes in a conflict caused by a disruption Caspak‘s balance, Tarzan siding with the more primitive tribes, while Turok sided with the more advanced ones. The main antagonist are the strange, winged humanoids of Caspak, the Weiroo.
Doctor Who - Phantasm. The Doctor faces the enigmatic Tall Man, a being who seems like dark reflection of himself. One a traveller through time and space, helping though she comes across. The other a mysterious entity who seeks to invade all parallel earths.
John Carter vs Aliens. Barsoom faces an terrible incursion after an unknown ship crash lands on Mars. Can the red planet’s superman unit it’s people against a common foe or will the divisions among its races insure their complete destruction at the hands of creatures from beyond the solar system?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2022 22:11:09 GMT
I wish they had done a Blake's 7/Doctor Who crossover back in the late 70s. Imagine the TARDIS materializing on the Liberator!
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 4, 2022 19:19:20 GMT
I wish they had done a Blake's 7/Doctor Who crossover back in the late 70s. Imagine the TARDIS materializing on the Liberator! They wanted to twice. Terry Nation wanted the andromeda aliens to be servants of the Daleks who would attack the base. It was vetoed by Chris Boucher who wanted B7 to be separate. Tom Baker and Gareth Thomas both wanted a crossover meanwhile, but they pitched a more comical, subdued idea. They wanted to do one where Blake and the Doctor would bump into each other in a corridor whilst both were on the run from different badguys. They'd explain who they were running from and wish each other luck before continuing to flee LOL. Apparently it was inspired by the fact that they kept bumping into each when filming in the same quarry LOL. |
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 4, 2022 19:20:36 GMT
Some great ideas there burrunjor, and you’ve encouraged me to suggest some of my own. Tarzan/Turok: In The Land That Time Forgot. Teaming up my favourite pulp and comic characters on the island of Caspak. Taking a little inspiration from another crossover, Tarzan vs Predator: At The Earths Core, it’s a team up between to very similar character from very different backgrounds. I picked Caspak as the location for the story as it’s sort of neutral ground for the pair, yet provides similar challenges the two would be familiar with. Tarzan has faced dinosaurs before, while Turok battles them every in the Lost Land. Another reason for picking Caspak is that it’s one of the few Burroughs locations Tarzan has not been to prior, as he has been to Pellucidar (the Earth’s Core) and Barsoom (Mars). Given how Caspak works, I foresee each character coming into conflict as a result of siding with the different tribes in a conflict caused by a disruption Caspak‘s balance, Tarzan siding with the more primitive tribes, while Turok sided with the more advanced ones. The main antagonist are the strange, winged humanoids of Caspak, the Weiroo. Doctor Who - Phantasm. The Doctor faces the enigmatic Tall Man, a being who seems like dark reflection of himself. One a traveller through time and space, helping though she comes across. The other a mysterious entity who seeks to invade all parallel earths. John Carter vs Aliens. Barsoom faces an terrible incursion after an unknown ship crash lands on Mars. Can the red planet’s superman unit it’s people against a common foe or will the divisions among its races insure their complete destruction at the hands of creatures from beyond the solar system? Cool ideas. Aliens vs Edgar Rice Burroughs characters would be an interesting mashup, even just visually. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 21:46:59 GMT
Some great ideas there burrunjor, and you’ve encouraged me to suggest some of my own. Tarzan/Turok: In The Land That Time Forgot. Teaming up my favourite pulp and comic characters on the island of Caspak. Taking a little inspiration from another crossover, Tarzan vs Predator: At The Earths Core, it’s a team up between to very similar character from very different backgrounds. I picked Caspak as the location for the story as it’s sort of neutral ground for the pair, yet provides similar challenges the two would be familiar with. Tarzan has faced dinosaurs before, while Turok battles them every in the Lost Land. Another reason for picking Caspak is that it’s one of the few Burroughs locations Tarzan has not been to prior, as he has been to Pellucidar (the Earth’s Core) and Barsoom (Mars). Given how Caspak works, I foresee each character coming into conflict as a result of siding with the different tribes in a conflict caused by a disruption Caspak‘s balance, Tarzan siding with the more primitive tribes, while Turok sided with the more advanced ones. The main antagonist are the strange, winged humanoids of Caspak, the Weiroo. Doctor Who - Phantasm. The Doctor faces the enigmatic Tall Man, a being who seems like dark reflection of himself. One a traveller through time and space, helping though she comes across. The other a mysterious entity who seeks to invade all parallel earths. John Carter vs Aliens. Barsoom faces an terrible incursion after an unknown ship crash lands on Mars. Can the red planet’s superman unit it’s people against a common foe or will the divisions among its races insure their complete destruction at the hands of creatures from beyond the solar system? Cool ideas. Aliens vs Edgar Rice Burroughs characters would be an interesting mashup, even just visually. Thanks One I’d also like to talk about was in Agents of Law, a Dark Horse original series that tied into their super hero line. Anyway to cut a long story short, the Predator actually wins the fight and kills the comics main character! The comic was cancelled so the creator just let the Predator off Law. That was it, no follow up, nothing, Law is dead, the series is dead, fokk you. It was part of an even called Hunting the Heroes: The Predators Attack, in which four comics had a Predator show up X, MotorHead (in his #1 issue no less), Agents of Law (with aforementioned results) and Ghost, which was a bit of a piss take since the Predator only appeared at the very end and the main character just fazed into its head and blew its brains out. |
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Post by rushy on Apr 16, 2022 20:21:59 GMT
Doctor Who - Phantasm. The Doctor faces the enigmatic Tall Man, a being who seems like dark reflection of himself. One a traveller through time and space, helping though she comes across. The other a mysterious entity who seeks to invade all parallel earths. I always found it really cool that Angus Scrimm was a spitting double of William Hartnell's Doctor. Terrific series! The original 1979 Phantasm is my favourite film of all time. Shame about the last one, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 20:56:02 GMT
Doctor Who - Phantasm. The Doctor faces the enigmatic Tall Man, a being who seems like dark reflection of himself. One a traveller through time and space, helping though she comes across. The other a mysterious entity who seeks to invade all parallel earths. I always found it really cool that Angus Scrimm was a spitting double of William Hartnell's Doctor. Terrific series! The original 1979 Phantasm is my favourite film of all time. Shame about the last one, though. Indeed it’s rather uncanny, made more so by how the Tall Man is in many was a horror version of the First Doctor. I actually thought it was ok, major production issues and low budget aside, it’s very interesting and manages to keep franchises flavour to a digree. It just sadly cannot live up to the other four films standards. |
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