mistressrani
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Post by mistressrani on Mar 11, 2022 18:54:08 GMT
Hmmmm "but to pretend that they were proper versions of the Doctor and the Master" is simply disturbing. Who is the cultural guardian of what is deemed a 'proper version'?
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 11, 2022 19:13:44 GMT
Hmmmm "but to pretend that they were proper versions of the Doctor and the Master" is simply disturbing. Who is the cultural guardian of what is deemed a 'proper version'? Well try people who actually tried to play the character and didn't either just play the role they always play, or Moffat's god awful River Pong character repackaged again, or well to be honest I don't even know what Jodie's was meant to be LOL. Only in the Doctor Who fandom where there is such a lack of respect for the original, thanks partly to the Fitzroy Crowd, would anyone even make the argument you're making. I can't imagine if someone played a version of the Joker who wasn't even a clown, wasn't insane, didn't live in Gotham, was Batman's best friend and wasn't even the right gender that anyone would say "well who gets to say what the Joker is?" |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2022 20:58:26 GMT
Where’s the guy who quit because of unprofessional behaviour, the man who refused day of the Doctor because the person he wanted wasn't part of it? Is he hard up for money, drunk the coolaid or just lost his edge? Or maybe he was just full of shit to begin with. The man's been a through a lot coping with anxieties, depression, and mental illness. I don't blame him at all for 'losing his edge', not that I think you need an edge after a while, nobody can keep that up and stay healthy. What else can he do? If he says Jodie is naff, it sours his relations with the fans in attendance and clouds their whole day, and it also validates all the worse aspects of the NMD movement, it's objectively terrible publicity for him and the franchise to tear down the current era while it's still airing. I look at the silver lining, the bit before he said Jodie was the 'best' was that the father of them all was William Hartnell. I was unaware of his mental health history, and your right, it’s not an easy place to be. Most of us, who have nothing professional to lose in our stance, we get some horrid shit flung our way. He by contrast dose. I reacted as I did because while I never liked him as the Doctor, I respected his stance against the show and the twats that run it, so it was a bit of a shame to see him on these wankers side. |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Mar 17, 2022 15:43:14 GMT
Over to you, Bernard...  Thank you for the leeway. *Sigh*. What does he think he's gaining by spouting this rubbish? I don't understand him at all. On the one hand, he comes across as a genuinely principled person when it comes to walking out of NuWho, and his broader persona is refreshingly candid and vulnerable too. He seems opposed to the Modus Operandi of media-triangulation and PR in these scenarios, so why does he feel obliged to paradoxically play into it at every opportunity in situations like this? He seems to be experiencing a degree of cognitive dissonance... There's a lot of it about... |
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Post by rushy on Apr 16, 2022 19:37:00 GMT
Eccleston's not a fan of Doctor Who and knows nothing about it beyond the most surface elements. I sincerely doubt he's ever watched Jodie Whittaker perform in the role. It's more likely that he thinks Jodie is a nice person irl and/or good in other roles so he thinks of her as a great actress.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Apr 16, 2022 19:48:41 GMT
Eccleston's not a fan of Doctor Who and knows nothing about it beyond the most surface elements. I sincerely doubt he's ever watched Jodie Whittaker perform in the role. It's more likely that he thinks Jodie is a nice person irl and/or good in other roles so he thinks of her as a great actress. Yeah, I'd envision it more as a simple PR exercise rather than a particularly sincere comment, given that they're presumably both friends. I'd probably have more respect for him if he were more candid though, or had he not turned to hyperbole. Had he said "I don't watch the series now, but I wish Jodie, and indeed her successor, good luck", it'd probably seem less haphazard. I've come to rate Eccleston more than I used to, admittedly. He's not especially versatile, but he's undeniably good in both Cracker and Our Friends in the North. It's a shame he never appreciated Doctor Who though, or recognised its better qualities. I know that he watched Talons of Weng-Chiang before taking the part and liked the story, and I reckon he'd have seen more genuine merit in the programme had he delved more closely into the Classic Series, or challenged his preconceived notions of the character as a toff as opposed to a rogue, anti-authoritarian maverick. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2022 2:19:12 GMT
He honestly just wants to appear relevant that's why he is making all these ridiculous comments bet he never has watched a Jodie episode in his life .
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Post by rushy on Apr 29, 2022 18:22:10 GMT
It's a shame his audios are painfully generic
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