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Post by burrunjor on Feb 19, 2022 16:31:58 GMT
Don't worry I'm not either baiting or having a go at Maxil here LOL.
For the record there is a lot I love about the 80s too. For me it was the absolute golden age of fantasy movies and American comics and arguably American action movies and also when British comedy came into its own. (The Young Ones is still the most hilarious Britcom of all time for me.)
Still I've noticed that among young people it is the most popular decade. It seems to have taken over from the 60s in that respect. (Which always occupied that spot when I was a boy in the 90s.)
Again this isn't just based on here, where most of us love the 80s. A recent poll the other day showed that the 80s is considered the best decade of the 20th century among young people, including some who were never even alive during that time. Again I don't have a problem with that. To me all the decades from the 60s on have their high points and low points, and you could make a case for any of them being the best. (Before the 60s however, not so much. I don't think anyone is going to list the 1910s as the best decade for instance LOL.)
Still what do you think it is about the 80s that has made it so popular these days? Undoubtedly a large part will be because people who were born in the 80s are now coming to prominence, but even then like I said the poll showed that a lot of young people who weren't around then still prefer going back to that decade's entertainment than all of the others, and you'd think there would be just as much 90s nostalgia by that logic too, but the 90s seems to be overlooked in favour of the 80s.
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Post by iank on Feb 21, 2022 0:50:27 GMT
Simples: It was the best.  I mean, honestly, though, for music and movies (and the sheer number of great movies too), you can't beat it. I still keep finding new stuff, and I'm an old fart. I think the 90s slightly have the edge on it for TV, tbh, but still. It's the genuine sense of wonder and FUN - now there's a word you don't associate with modern pop culture much these days! |
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Post by zarius on Feb 21, 2022 11:54:48 GMT
What Iank said..fun stuff all 'round. Clean music, wholesome shows, people getting along, clear definitions of good vs evil in dramas and cartoons, comic book characters actually grew up etc.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 12:45:36 GMT
The 80s was the golden age for movies, music and television and I absolutely adore the fashion and hairstyles too. 80s television in this country was great with Doctor Who, Blake's 7, The Tripods, Hale and Pace, Red Dwarf, Only Fools and Horses and Dempsey and Makepeace. I'm not as keen on the American shows although I do like some Miami Vice. As for movies, it was an absolute gold mine with classics in every single genre. It was a golden period for slasher/horror movies, action movies, fantasy films, science fiction and comedies. The music at the time was also incredible especially in the UK. Actors and singers were more likeable.
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 21, 2022 15:05:59 GMT
The 80s was the golden age for movies, music and television and I absolutely adore the fashion and hairstyles too. 80s television in this country was great with Doctor Who, Blake's 7, The Tripods, Hale and Pace, Red Dwarf, Only Fools and Horses and Dempsey and Makepeace. I'm not as keen on the American shows although I do like some Miami Vice. As for movies, it was an absolute gold mine with classics in every single genre. It was a golden period for slasher/horror movies, action movies, fantasy films, science fiction and comedies. The music at the time was also incredible especially in the UK. Actors and singers were more likeable. You know it's quite funny watching Austin Powers now. That was made in the heyday of 60s nostalgia in the 90s and in it, Austin constantly goes on about how boring and crappy the 70s and 80s were compared to the 60s. Even Dylan Moran did a joke about it that was one of his most famous ones. Jump to about 2 min 40 secs in. Apart from the 80s being crap he's spot on about rap music LOL. Part of why I like Lucifer so much. He hates rap music too. Honestly I can't believe it was Classic Who and Amy W comedians dogpilled on when fokking Eminem was around. Glad to see Dylan Moran at least went after that little scrotum and his ilk. Anyway just goes to show you how perspectives can change LOL as the 80s is to millenials what the 60s was to Moran's generation. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 15:06:22 GMT
I think the 90s will probably get a bit more love in the next ten years or so. Saying that, they do a "I love the 90s" night every so often around where I live. I do think the 80s is superior to it though. It's so much more consistent although I will say the 90s has the most Christmas movies ever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 15:08:56 GMT
The 80s was the golden age for movies, music and television and I absolutely adore the fashion and hairstyles too. 80s television in this country was great with Doctor Who, Blake's 7, The Tripods, Hale and Pace, Red Dwarf, Only Fools and Horses and Dempsey and Makepeace. I'm not as keen on the American shows although I do like some Miami Vice. As for movies, it was an absolute gold mine with classics in every single genre. It was a golden period for slasher/horror movies, action movies, fantasy films, science fiction and comedies. The music at the time was also incredible especially in the UK. Actors and singers were more likeable. You know it's quite funny watching Austin Powers now. That was made in the heyday of 60s nostalgia in the 90s and in it, Austin constantly goes on about how boring and crappy the 70s and 80s were compared to the 60s. Even Dylan Moran did a joke about it that was one of his most famous ones. Jump to about 1 minute in. Apart from the 80s being crap he's spot on about rap music LOL. Part of why I like Lucifer so much. He hates rap music too. Honestly I can't believe it was Classic Who and Amy W comedians dogpilled on when fokking Eminem was around. Glad to see Dylan Moran at least went after that little scrotum and his ilk. Anyway just goes to show you how perspectives can change LOL as the 80s is to millenials what the 60s was to Moran's generation. I understand the 60s nostalgia. Sometimes I watch videos from everyday life in the 1960s and I just dig the fashion and all that. If I had a time machine I'd certainly make a trip to 60s London. Bond and Doctor Who were amazing back then and the music rocked. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 15:11:00 GMT
As for rap, old school 90s rap is cool. I'd take MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice over the current crap to be honest.
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 21, 2022 15:14:04 GMT
As for rap, old school 90s rap is cool. I'd take MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice over the current crap to be honest. I don't mind MC Hammer, it's just the Eminem macho twats I f*cking loathe with every atom of my body. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2022 15:16:23 GMT
As for rap, old school 90s rap is cool. I'd take MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice over the current crap to be honest. I don't mind MC Hammer, it's just the Eminem macho twats I fokking loathe with every atom of my body. I'm with you there. I can't stand Eminem either. |
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Post by iank on Feb 21, 2022 20:52:22 GMT
The 90s are at that weird spot for me now when they're starting to look disturbingly old for the first time, but not old enough yet to be shivery nostalgic about. It'll probably get there though.
I've been weirdly nostalgic for the early 2000s of late (TV anyway). Didn't realise how good we had it!
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 21, 2022 21:19:59 GMT
The 90s are at that weird spot for me now when they're starting to look disturbingly old for the first time, but not old enough yet to be shivery nostalgic about. It'll probably get there though. I've been weirdly nostalgic for the early 2000s of late (TV anyway). Didn't realise how good we had it! Oh I love early 2000s stuff too. Smallville, Angel, Buffy, it was a golden age for American fantasy. Do you know Smallville is coming back as an animated series? I'm looking forward to it. I think, I THINK that they might have to recast Chloe though LOL. As long as I get to see or rather hear James Marsters as Brainiac again I'll be happy. |
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Post by henshin on Feb 21, 2022 22:56:00 GMT
I have to be honest; I never got into the 80s.
The 90s is my jam.
It's not that I dislike the 80s, there's some terrific films and music which came from that era, not to mention being the birth decade of video games. But, for me, the 80s is a "novelty" decade; big hair, spandex, big guitars, badass action heroes, weekly or monthly wages that actually can be enjoyed rather than being dead money. What's not to love?
For me, the 90s is that sweet spot between the seriousness and self-awareness of a post-911 world along with some of the fun of the 80s.
Here are some of my favourite things:
- Favourite video game memories: nearly all from the 90s
- Favourite bands: Oasis, Crowded House, R.E.M, Weezer, The Smashing Pumpkins
- Favourite film: HEAT. Love it. Peak 90s.
- Favourite show: The Sopranos. Given that this show started in 1999, I agree that this is technically cheating. But, throughout the show's lifespan was its mix of 90s crime films (being heavily Scorsese influenced) along with 90s sitcom (lots of Seinfeld style setups), and 90s family drama (there are moments where it is literally Seventh Heaven with mobsters, prostitutes, and drugs). It's a style of story telling that endured the series, it never changed. All of which is VERY 90s.
- My favourite era of Star Trek is 90s Trek. Easily.
- Favourite Sitcom: Seinfeld
The list could go on, but i'll stop there.
Frankly, I think 80s nostalgia comes down to two things; those of that generation who despise how serious things got after the 90s, and just want to have fun again. Then, there's people who are around my age that were born shortly after then, but prefer the idea of the 80s without having actually lived during that time. I suspect this is possibly due to how their parents or older siblings may have described that decade. Stranger Things is very infectious, so I see why it's been so romanticised.
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Post by cyberhat on Feb 22, 2022 2:31:22 GMT
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 22, 2022 9:08:59 GMT
I have to be honest; I never got into the 80s. The 90s is my jam. It's not that I dislike the 80s, there's some terrific films and music which came from that era, not to mention being the birth decade of video games. But, for me, the 80s is a "novelty" decade; big hair, spandex, big guitars, badass action heroes, weekly or monthly wages that actually can be enjoyed rather than being dead money. What's not to love? For me, the 90s is that sweet spot between the seriousness and self-awareness of a post-911 world along with some of the fun of the 80s. Here are some of my favourite things: - Favourite video game memories: nearly all from the 90s - Favourite bands: Oasis, Crowded House, R.E.M, Weezer, The Smashing Pumpkins - Favourite film: HEAT. Love it. Peak 90s. - Favourite show: The Sopranos. Given that this show started in 1999, I agree that this is technically cheating. But, throughout the show's lifespan was its mix of 90s crime films (being heavily Scorsese influenced) along with 90s sitcom (lots of Seinfeld style setups), and 90s family drama (there are moments where it is literally Seventh Heaven with mobsters, prostitutes, and drugs). It's a style of story telling that endured the series, it never changed. All of which is VERY 90s. - My favourite era of Star Trek is 90s Trek. Easily. - Favourite Sitcom: Seinfeld The list could go on, but i'll stop there. Frankly, I think 80s nostalgia comes down to two things; those of that generation who despise how serious things got after the 90s, and just want to have fun again. Then, there's people who are around my age that were born shortly after then, but prefer the idea of the 80s without having actually lived during that time. I suspect this is possibly due to how their parents or older siblings may have described that decade. Stranger Things is very infectious, so I see why it's been so romanticised. Great post. Another reason I think that the 80s and the 90s are popular is because my generation. Millenials who were born in the 80s and 90s never got over being kids. Our childhood's for most were f*cking awesome. Not only was there plenty of great entertainment in the 80s and the 90s, but we also had access to the previous generations entertainment than any before us thanks to video. A lot of old shows enjoyed a resurgence in the 90s, Star Trek, Lost in Space and yes. Doctor Who despite what the media says. At the same time however video games and entertainment wasn't quite so consuming that it took over your entire life like today. We still got a chance to go out and play, and also our parents I think spoiled us. Our parents parents, had famously been quite cold and strict, and so I think our parents overcompensated a bit for that. It wasn't always good as perhaps they became a bit too involved in our lives, but still generally speaking Millenials had a good relationship with their parents. As a result of all this, growing up was always going to be hard for us, but on top of that the world we grew up into was scary. 9/11, the recession, it became difficult to actually go out and meet people, then there was the internet firing everybody up and pitting everybody against one another. This is why nostalgia for our childhoods which covers the 80s and 90s is so big right now. Why Michael Keaton is coming back as Batman, why Rugrats is getting a reboot, He Man has been brought back. My generation just wants to escape back to when they were kids and carefree. I'm not having a go at my generation for that. The past two generations before us also had a period they couldn't get over. For my grandads it was the 50s and 60s when they were in their 30s. As Cyberhat below mentioned, they were the decades when rationing ended, where there was a revolution in music, and technology from the invention of the television to man landing on the moon, there was affordable housing, free love etc. It felt like life actually was getting better and we could end up in a Star Trek/Dan Dare style future. For my parents generation meanwhile, it was the 70s. They never got over being trendy students in the 70s. That's why the Young Ones was so popular. (I know it was in the 80s, but Rik and Ade were themselves 70s students.) Back then going to Uni was the dogs bollocks. You had no responsibilities, you could shag anyone you wanted and nobody knew about STD's, similarly drugs were good LOL. It was a golden time for them, and I honestly think that generation (who were born in the 50s) never got over it and would constantly bemoan how they'd had to calm down and were no longer the wild children of the 70s. I think Ade Edmondson's character from Vyvian to Eddie is the perfect representation of that generation. (I know Eddie and Vyv aren't meant to be the same person, but they are basically the same person in terms of character.) When he is in his 20s, Vyv unlike Rick is actually a cool guy. He is the wild, badass, dangerous, hardman that pretty much everyone wanted to be LOL. By the time you get to Eddie however, he is overweight, broken down, and quite pathetic. He's still just as violent as ever, but now he can't back it up, because he is out of shape and often gets the shit kicked out of him, he also can't hold down a job because he is too violent and is forced to live with the person he hates Richie to survive. Now I am NOT saying that is what that generation were like, IE wasters. However I think a lot of them started out as Vyvians and were faced with three options once Uni was over. Either calm down and live a normal life, get an office job, start a family and be resentful of that for the rest of your life LOL, which 99 percent of them did. Or keep going with the wild lifestyle and either die young, or survive but end up a broken down wreck by the time you reach your late 30s like Eddie. Eddie was the warning for what they could have become, IE someone who didn't get over being a wild child in their 20s. It'll be interesting to see what time in their lives the next generation view as the golden years. I won't ask Bernard Marx just yet as it's a bit too early LOL. I don't think they will be quite a Peter Pan generation like us though as the early 00s were a bit scarier and more cynical. I think for his generation it may actually end up being in their 30s just like my grandfathers ironically. That is assuming that WW3 doesn't start and kill them all off before then. |
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