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Post by Spark Doll King on Feb 27, 2024 19:30:22 GMT
Out of Time So I finally caved and gave this one a listen and on the whole I was impressed. Tom and Tennent actually bounce off eachother very well. Their Doctors are both at a point were they are alone, post Deadly Assassin and Waters of Mars respectively, and both are in very different mind sets. Four is finally unbound from everything that tied him to the Pertwee era and is free to begin his wanderings. Ten is clearly in his "Time Lord Victorious" mind set when angered and is trying to run from his eventual fate. The two sound like their having great fun taking the piss out of eachother and when they start to get serious it actually becomes very engrossing. Tom's Doctor has his whole future ahead of him and cannot understand the ego & darkness Tennent is exuding, with Ten going so far as to subtly ridicule Tom's self doubt in Genesis, saying he DOSE have the right and that he carries on not for his friends but for enemies that lurk out there. While Tom is always a joy, Tennent really one me over here. His Doctor was always something of an ego maniac and wrongly thinking he knew best at all times, but I was always pissed off by the wasted potential of the Waters of Mar's Time Lord Victorious idea. A fleeting glimpse of a great idea that was squashed befor it could be examined and finally I get to see some of that potential idea here. It helps really give the two Doctors' conversations weight beyond the simple rivalry of other meetings. As a last point on this subject I also love how Four tries to comfort the wounded Ten by the end, to try and help him see the universe as he used to, an idea that I empathise with greatly. The rest of the story is ok but nothing great, the setting of the Cathedral of Contemplation and the use of Daleks is a nice middle ground that suits each Doctor's eras but nothing truly outstanding is done with it. It's more of just facilitate out Doctor's meeting and doing things. Still despite it's simplicity it was very fun. The rest of the cast are serviceable but it's really Tom & Tennent's show. Still it was well worth a listen 8/10 Really enjoyed that story too. Even though by the time I heard it I was done trying to think of New Who and old Who as being in the same canon, I still enjoyed Ten and Four's interactions. I've thankfully reached the point of I don't give a f*ck anymore. I'm just going to enjoy what I like and ignore all the nuwho crap, heck I'll even put up with it in the odd audio when its fun like Out of Time. |
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Post by Brian MK.II on Feb 27, 2024 20:28:37 GMT
Sword of Orion
 The Eighth Doctor's second adventure with Charley has them them running in with tone of the Doctor's oldest enemies. This was one of the first big finish audios I ever bought and I remember liking it at the time, and thankfully I still do, though apparently it's not that poplar among the wider fan circles. It's often regarded as a generic story with Cybermen but I feel that statment is unfair. More so then any other enemy I feel some fan genuinely forget what the Cybermen are about, even befor nuwho came along. While they have grander ambitions and actions in their history, Cybermen are not the Daleks. They are not conquerors, they are survivors and they will do it by any means necessary. As such the over all idea of Cybermen being discovered on a derelict ship is exactly the type of horror story they perfectly fit into. While not at their most horrifying, many of the basic Cybermen aspects are used well here, with probably the stand out moment being when the our protagonists come across a broken down Cyber-Conversion factory, filled with the decaying remains of half-converted victims. Thats said I will agree there is little proper characterisation to them, but then is was Big Finish's first attempt and they do a decent job. That said it's here we see the beginning of an issue Big Finish have with their Cybermen. I've said befor that BF really struggles to get the characterisation of the different Cybermen types right, often haphazardly mixing aspects of different eras. By their manner of speaking these Cybermen sound like the 80s versions, which is further bolstered by the fact they come from Telos. That said their are many references to the Cyber Wars, which is a hug mess of unclarified continuity at this point but is mostly connected with the 70s Revenge Cybermen and finally the Cybermen on the cover are the Invasion 60s versions which would go on to main threat of the Cybermen mini-series. We also have Cybermats but that's less of an issue. That said this times ol Nick Briggs actually dose a decent voice for them. McGann has clearly improved over his last story and feel more comfortable in his role and performance. His Doctor doesn't do anything overly character defining sadly besides his little flashes of humanity towards Jansen as he requests she not take back Cyber-Conversion data to Orion. Charley get to do a bit more here, with her comical interaction with a sleazy merchant, her chipper personality and attempt to understand this new world she finds herself in. One might argue that she seems a little to comfortable win her surroundings, but then she is a companion eager for adventure and own the lottery by getting to travel with the Doctor. Instead of struggling with it, she embraces it, which I find very refreshing. Perhaps the most intreasting character nod is her distaste at the idea of Androids being treated as slaves. It's a nice touch given that while 1930 wasn't perfect, even by that time there was a cultural push back against slavery (infact The Slavery Abolition Act would be passed 3 years later) and a reminder that not everyone in the past was a foaming at the mouth, racist puritan. The main cast are sadly not as intreasting as the crew of the R101, but they ok for a bunch of space scrap merchants and crooks. Jansen is our main stand out though she's more of a mystery then a character until the end of the story. The real meat of the story is what we learn of the Orion War, in which we learned that sentient Androids seeking to escape human persecution moved the the Orion sector and have been waging a pitched battle with humanity, with no side gaining ground. In fact when the conflict started in human space many humans and androids were killed because none could tell them apart, oh the irony. Each side is looking for an edge and sadly for both of the, they are under the impression the Cybermen are the key to victory. A concept so intreasting it got it's own mini-series. Over all I think this was a pretty good story. Maybe not as great as it could be but still a fun listen. 7/10 's great but The Silver Turk is my pick for McGann's best Cyberman story and I'd say it's tied with Spare Parts for their best Cyberman audio all round. On the subject of Cybermen stories, I'm also interested in hearing The Blue Tooth from your review as I've always been fascinated by what a Pertwee Cyberman story would've been like and how they'd fit in with the tone of Season 7. Meanwhile I have thought about listening to more of Tom and McCoy's audios in the future for I've only listened to one Tom audio (James Goss's The Silent Scream) and I wasn't admittedly too impressed with it and I haven't actually listened to any of McCoy's stuff except his brief appearance in The Four Doctors. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:05:32 GMT
Sword of Orion
The Eighth Doctor's second adventure with Charley has them them running in with tone of the Doctor's oldest enemies. This was one of the first big finish audios I ever bought and I remember liking it at the time, and thankfully I still do, though apparently it's not that poplar among the wider fan circles. It's often regarded as a generic story with Cybermen but I feel that statment is unfair. More so then any other enemy I feel some fan genuinely forget what the Cybermen are about, even befor nuwho came along. While they have grander ambitions and actions in their history, Cybermen are not the Daleks. They are not conquerors, they are survivors and they will do it by any means necessary. As such the over all idea of Cybermen being discovered on a derelict ship is exactly the type of horror story they perfectly fit into. While not at their most horrifying, many of the basic Cybermen aspects are used well here, with probably the stand out moment being when the our protagonists come across a broken down Cyber-Conversion factory, filled with the decaying remains of half-converted victims. Thats said I will agree there is little proper characterisation to them, but then is was Big Finish's first attempt and they do a decent job. That said it's here we see the beginning of an issue Big Finish have with their Cybermen. I've said befor that BF really struggles to get the characterisation of the different Cybermen types right, often haphazardly mixing aspects of different eras. By their manner of speaking these Cybermen sound like the 80s versions, which is further bolstered by the fact they come from Telos. That said their are many references to the Cyber Wars, which is a hug mess of unclarified continuity at this point but is mostly connected with the 70s Revenge Cybermen and finally the Cybermen on the cover are the Invasion 60s versions which would go on to main threat of the Cybermen mini-series. We also have Cybermats but that's less of an issue. That said this times ol Nick Briggs actually dose a decent voice for them. McGann has clearly improved over his last story and feel more comfortable in his role and performance. His Doctor doesn't do anything overly character defining sadly besides his little flashes of humanity towards Jansen as he requests she not take back Cyber-Conversion data to Orion. Charley get to do a bit more here, with her comical interaction with a sleazy merchant, her chipper personality and attempt to understand this new world she finds herself in. One might argue that she seems a little to comfortable win her surroundings, but then she is a companion eager for adventure and own the lottery by getting to travel with the Doctor. Instead of struggling with it, she embraces it, which I find very refreshing. Perhaps the most intreasting character nod is her distaste at the idea of Androids being treated as slaves. It's a nice touch given that while 1930 wasn't perfect, even by that time there was a cultural push back against slavery (infact The Slavery Abolition Act would be passed 3 years later) and a reminder that not everyone in the past was a foaming at the mouth, racist puritan. The main cast are sadly not as intreasting as the crew of the R101, but they ok for a bunch of space scrap merchants and crooks. Jansen is our main stand out though she's more of a mystery then a character until the end of the story. The real meat of the story is what we learn of the Orion War, in which we learned that sentient Androids seeking to escape human persecution moved the the Orion sector and have been waging a pitched battle with humanity, with no side gaining ground. In fact when the conflict started in human space many humans and androids were killed because none could tell them apart, oh the irony. Each side is looking for an edge and sadly for both of the, they are under the impression the Cybermen are the key to victory. A concept so intreasting it got it's own mini-series. Over all I think this was a pretty good story. Maybe not as great as it could be but still a fun listen. 7/10 's great but The Silver Turk is my pick for McGann's best Cyberman story and I'd say it's tied with Spare Parts for their best Cyberman audio all round. On the subject of Cybermen stories, I'm also interested in hearing The Blue Tooth from your review as I've always been fascinated by what a Pertwee Cyberman story would've been like and how they'd fit in with the tone of Season 7. Meanwhile I have thought about listening to more of Tom and McCoy's audios in the future for I've only listened to one Tom audio (James Goss's The Silent Scream) and I wasn't admittedly too impressed with it and I haven't actually listened to any of McCoy's stuff except his brief appearance in The Four Doctors.I would recommend 'Master', which is almost entirely a two hander between McCoy and Geoffrey Beavers. It's probably my favourite McCoy BF. It relies a lot on dialogue and is quite wordy, but very well written. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:14:06 GMT
Have you listened to any 7th Doctor audios at all? If not, I think you'd enjoy them. I really grew to appreciate Sylv and Sophie in particular through the early BF stories. They really capture the spirit of the Doctor and Ace's relationship. I love Enemy of the Daleks. I think that's honestly one of the best Dalek stories in any medium and was a big influence on my Dalek adventure as it I think it really showed how dangerous they were on an intergalactic scale. I loved that scene of the female soldier having PTSD about the Dalek war she was in. I haven't heard that one yet. I kind of drifted off from Big Finish since they started using NuWho, but I do have that one because I tend to collect all the Dalek ones regardless. And if it was an influence on Fire of the Daleks then that's a big point in it's favour, because I loved that. 😎 |
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Feb 27, 2024 21:18:39 GMT
WOW, only £2.99 to download on the Big Finish site. As a huge Cyberman fan I feel compelled to listen to this. I think I listened to an 8th Doctor/Charley story about ten years ago. I believe it was Seasons of Fear, but I can't remember all that much about it. Have you listened to any 7th Doctor audios at all? If not, I think you'd enjoy them. I really grew to appreciate Sylv and Sophie in particular through the early BF stories. They really capture the spirit of the Doctor and Ace's relationship. I haven't, but I definitely intend to start listening to Big Finish this year especially if the downloads are that cheap. Isn't there one set at Colditz? |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:20:18 GMT
Who did the OP? Was it Maxil or the guy who keeps changing his name? (I know his real name as I know him on FB but obviously I won't divulge that here LOL.) Either way I actually just got that Sixth Doctor and Peri Dalek adventure for my birthday. I'm still to listen to most of my BF audios that I got for my birthday actually. I've listened to some of the Paternoster Gang so far and it's been great fun, but I need to get round to Frankenstein and the Dalek adventure. That would be yours truly. Honestly Masters of Earth is a great story, I just was a bit nitpicky due to my love of Invasion of Earth. Masters of Earth is really excellent. I must re-listen to it one of these days. It's been years. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:23:25 GMT
Have you listened to any 7th Doctor audios at all? If not, I think you'd enjoy them. I really grew to appreciate Sylv and Sophie in particular through the early BF stories. They really capture the spirit of the Doctor and Ace's relationship. I haven't, but I definitely intend to start listening to Big Finish this year especially if the downloads are that cheap. Isn't there one set at Colditz? Yes, and it's a good story too. I'd recommend it. Also, The Rapture by Joe Lidster is a good early one. |
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 27, 2024 21:31:49 GMT
Sword of Orion's great but The Silver Turk is my pick for McGann's best Cyberman story and I'd say it's tied with Spare Parts for their best Cyberman audio all round. On the subject of Cybermen stories, I'm also interested in hearing The Blue Tooth from your review as I've always been fascinated by what a Pertwee Cyberman story would've been like and how they'd fit in with the tone of Season 7. Meanwhile I have thought about listening to more of Tom and McCoy's audios in the future for I've only listened to one Tom audio (James Goss's The Silent Scream) and I wasn't admittedly too impressed with it and I haven't actually listened to any of McCoy's stuff except his brief appearance in The Four Doctors. I would recommend 'Master', which is almost entirely a two hander between McCoy and Geoffrey Beavers. It's probably my favourite McCoy BF. It relies a lot on dialogue and is quite wordy, but very well written. I have mixed feelings on that one. You are right that it is undeniably a great story, with brilliant performances, but I don't like the origin it gives the Master. SPOILERS, the revelation that he is evil because the Doctor brokered a deal when they were childre where the Master became death's servant instead of the Doctor (after the Doctor killed another child that was bullying them) to me is terrible. It strips the Master of his agency and it tries to make him a tragic villain, which ultimately he should never be. Honestly the Fitzroy Crowd it seems just despised the Master. They clearly loved the Daleks, hence why most of their dalek stuff is great. For the Cybermen they liked them, but it was just if they had to choose which one was the most badass, then yeah it'd be the Daleks, so they got undermined badly, but at least solo Cyberman stuff is quite good. For the Master however, they just couldn't find anything interesting in him and therefore just seemed to go out of their way to make him a totally different villain each time. From a femme fatale as Missy, to a Joker expy as Simm, to this story that makes him a tragic pawn of basically a demon goddess. Also all stories give him new origins and a totally new relationship with the Doctor, from ex lover he wanted to travel with as Missy, to troubled only friend he wants to help as Simm, to person he actually created like Batman and the Joker/Xena and Callisto in this story, none of which mesh with the actual Master. In all cases I just wanted the Master LOL. Funny thing is, he's not even my favourite villain. I much prefer the Daleks, Cybermen and Davros to the Master, but ultimately I think there is something that can be done with the character, but nobody seems to want too? Still as this is an audio and therefore looser canon than the tv show, I don't mind the change here as much. |
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 27, 2024 21:37:55 GMT
I love Enemy of the Daleks. I think that's honestly one of the best Dalek stories in any medium and was a big influence on my Dalek adventure as it I think it really showed how dangerous they were on an intergalactic scale. I loved that scene of the female soldier having PTSD about the Dalek war she was in. I haven't heard that one yet. I kind of drifted off from Big Finish since they started using NuWho, but I do have that one because I tend to collect all the Dalek ones regardless. And if it was an influence on Fire of the Daleks then that's a big point in it's favour, because I loved that. 😎 Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I think where it and admittedly a lot of Big Finish Dalek stories were an influence was that the Big Finish stories seemed to make the Daleks more of a genuine intergalactic threat. To be honest the only story that does that in classic who is ironically Planet of the Daleks. For all people hate it, I think it's great the way the monsters are shown to be at war with multiple species and humanity apart from Jo don't appear. Most other Dalek stories show them invading earth, or humanity are still involved or are their primary enemies like Daleks Masterplan, Death to the Daleks. Genesis and the first story obviously don't feature humanity, but the monsters are confined to their home planet, and in Destiny, again it's still humanity that break free and capture Davros. Obviously I'm not saying that's always a bad thing. I love all those other Dalek stories. There's not a bad Dalek story in classic who, but still given they are the biggest threat in the universe, I think that they should be shown to conquer other worlds more often or at least be at war with humanity in the future when we're an intergalactic power, and honestly I think Big Finish have done that brilliantly and Enemy is a good example, even if it is still humans they are fighting LOL, you do get the impression of the Daleks as a galaxy wide threat in the story. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:39:26 GMT
Storm Warning and Sword of Orion! Now you're going back to the days when I actually used to enjoy Big Finish. I agree Storm Warning was a pretty good start for the eighth Doctor, and I liked Sword of Orion even more. I think listening to the eighth Doctor audios in order is best, because there's a bit of an arc to each season. Although not to the point where you can't listen to them randomly. Honestly it's been a real pleasure listening to these, I've actually been really indifferent to DW lately thanks to nuwho but thanks to these audios I've got my passion back again. I'm even going to give the books a try again, but this time I'm using a Text to Speech to let me enjoy them more. I have sever dyslexia so sometimes sitting in reading is a real chore. I don't consider NuWho to be Dr Who at all, (now more than ever) so it's not a problem for me. The only thing I DON'T like is NuWho impinging on Classic Who and forcing them together. To me they are strictly separate and different entities. It's the reason I went off Big Finish, and frown on shit like Tales from the Tardis and The Daleks in Colour trying to enforce NuWho sensibilities onto Classic Who. They've got their own universe, let them be happy with that and strop trying to make it all one thing. It's not. Leave it alone. Get your mitts off it. f*ck off. That's my attitude. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:45:13 GMT
I would recommend 'Master', which is almost entirely a two hander between McCoy and Geoffrey Beavers. It's probably my favourite McCoy BF. It relies a lot on dialogue and is quite wordy, but very well written. I have mixed feelings on that one. You are right that it is undeniably a great story, with brilliant performances, but I don't like the origin it gives the Master. SPOILERS, the revelation that he is evil because the Doctor brokered a deal when they were childre where the Master became death's servant instead of the Doctor (after the Doctor killed another child that was bullying them) to me is terrible. It strips the Master of his agency and it tries to make him a tragic villain, which ultimately he should never be. That's a fair point, I've tended to overlook that. |
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Post by burrunjor on Feb 27, 2024 21:53:57 GMT
Honestly it's been a real pleasure listening to these, I've actually been really indifferent to DW lately thanks to nuwho but thanks to these audios I've got my passion back again. I'm even going to give the books a try again, but this time I'm using a Text to Speech to let me enjoy them more. I have sever dyslexia so sometimes sitting in reading is a real chore. I don't consider NuWho to be Dr Who at all, (now more than ever) so it's not a problem for me. The only thing I DON'T like is NuWho impinging on Classic Who and forcing them together. To me they are strictly separate and different entities. It's the reason I went off Big Finish, and frown on shit like Tales from the Tardis and The Daleks in Colour trying to enforce NuWho sensibilities onto Classic Who. They've got their own universe, let them be happy with that and strop trying to make it all one thing. It's not. Leave it alone. Get your mitts off it. f*ck off. That's my attitude. Agreed, funny thing is I actually think that's better for new who too. Ironically I'm not one of these people who thinks that classic who's continuity should go on forever. I think that's a stupid idea, no offense to others. Sooner or later the continuity is going to be too big, even for something like DW. For instance I don't want hundreds of Doctors existing in the one universe. That cheapens it. Also I would like to see characters like Davros and the Master, and even the Daleks and Cybermen's stories come to an end. It just gets boring after a while. DW's original canon would have ended anyway. End of classic era is a good time to do that. If you want to continue it, fine, but accept it's not the official sequel. There can be no official sequel, only alternate sequels. That's the best option, or remakes or reboots, I'm all for those things. If new who were just one of many alternate sequels, I would have 0 problems with it. I'd still prefer the classic era and I do think that new who kind of tore itself apart as a show within its own right during the Capaldi and Jodie eras. (Let's face it, those two eras suck even just as sequels to the first 7 years. Gallifrey being destroyed again is a terrible ending for the 50th for instance. It makes it into a joke, and the Doctor not being a Time Lord ruins the whole last of the time lords angle from the RTD era.) Still yeah New Who just being one of lots of alternate sequels is fine. It can be like Jack Palance's Dracula vs Christopher Lee's and Bela Lugosi's. Trying to make it the same show as the original, and worse rewriting the original to make it fit with the new stuff is the worst of all worlds. BTW I got Roger Delgado's biography at Christmas and not only does it try and make out that Delgado added a suggestive gay subtext to the Doctor and Master relationship, but it spends almost an entire chapter on the other Masters where it trashes Ainley and praises Missy as being more like Delgado than anyone. Yeah needless to say it was a let down LOL. |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 21:56:19 GMT
I haven't heard that one yet. I kind of drifted off from Big Finish since they started using NuWho, but I do have that one because I tend to collect all the Dalek ones regardless. And if it was an influence on Fire of the Daleks then that's a big point in it's favour, because I loved that. 😎 Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I think where it and admittedly a lot of Big Finish Dalek stories were an influence was that the Big Finish stories seemed to make the Daleks more of a genuine intergalactic threat. To be honest the only story that does that in classic who is ironically Planet of the Daleks. For all people hate it, I think it's great the way the monsters are shown to be at war with multiple species and humanity apart from Jo don't appear. Most other Dalek stories show them invading earth, or humanity are still involved or are their primary enemies like Daleks Masterplan, Death to the Daleks. Genesis and the first story obviously don't feature humanity, but the monsters are confined to their home planet, and in Destiny, again it's still humanity that break free and capture Davros. Obviously I'm not saying that's always a bad thing. I love all those other Dalek stories. There's not a bad Dalek story in classic who, but still given they are the biggest threat in the universe, I think that they should be shown to conquer other worlds more often or at least be at war with humanity in the future when we're an intergalactic power, and honestly I think Big Finish have done that brilliantly and Enemy is a good example, even if it is still humans they are fighting LOL, you do get the impression of the Daleks as a galaxy wide threat in the story. I think Planet and Daleks Masterplan did that most effectively. In fact even in Day and Death they are quite clearly a power in their own right who exist only to subjugate or destroy all other species. Much as I like the 80s stories for different reasons, I maintain that Davros should not have been brought back. Also admittedly I do love Remembrance in particular, and the idea of two warring factions of Daleks is intriguing and has lots of potential. I was less keen on the earlier stories where the Daleks are more dependent on Davros, so I was happy when the 'proper' Daleks turned up to challenge him. |
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Post by rushy on Feb 27, 2024 22:01:06 GMT
Delgado added a suggestive gay subtext to the Doctor and Master relationship He was too busy flirting Jo Grant's socks off |
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Post by Ludders II on Feb 27, 2024 22:08:08 GMT
I don't consider NuWho to be Dr Who at all, (now more than ever) so it's not a problem for me. The only thing I DON'T like is NuWho impinging on Classic Who and forcing them together. To me they are strictly separate and different entities. It's the reason I went off Big Finish, and frown on shit like Tales from the Tardis and The Daleks in Colour trying to enforce NuWho sensibilities onto Classic Who. They've got their own universe, let them be happy with that and strop trying to make it all one thing. It's not. Leave it alone. Get your mitts off it. f*ck off. That's my attitude. Agreed, funny thing is I actually think that's better for new who too. Ironically I'm not one of these people who thinks that classic who's continuity should go on forever. I think that's a stupid idea, no offense to others. Sooner or later the continuity is going to be too big, even for something like DW. For instance I don't want hundreds of Doctors existing in the one universe. That cheapens it. Also I would like to see characters like Davros and the Master, and even the Daleks and Cybermen's stories come to an end. It just gets boring after a while. DW's original canon would have ended anyway. End of classic era is a good time to do that. If you want to continue it, fine, but accept it's not the official sequel. There can be no official sequel, only alternate sequels. That's the best option, or remakes or reboots, I'm all for those things. If new who were just one of many alternate sequels, I would have 0 problems with it. I'd still prefer the classic era and I do think that new who kind of tore itself apart as a show within its own right during the Capaldi and Jodie eras. (Let's face it, those two eras suck even just as sequels to the first 7 years. Gallifrey being destroyed again is a terrible ending for the 50th for instance. It makes it into a joke, and the Doctor not being a Time Lord ruins the whole last of the time lords angle from the RTD era.) Still yeah New Who just being one of lots of alternate sequels is fine. It can be like Jack Palance's Dracula vs Christopher Lee's and Bela Lugosi's. Trying to make it the same show as the original, and worse rewriting the original to make it fit with the new stuff is the worst of all worlds. BTW I got Roger Delgado's biography at Christmas and not only does it try and make out that Delgado added a suggestive gay subtext to the Doctor and Master relationship, but it spends almost an entire chapter on the other Masters where it trashes Ainley and praises Missy as being more like Delgado than anyone. Yeah needless to say it was a let down LOL. Yep, pretty much agree with all that. Shocked to hear about that Delgado biography though. a) Putting in your own personal take on the character of the Master does not a biography of Delgado make. b) It's obviously written by some bollock-brain who has been infected by the NuWho virus, and therefore should be disregarded. But yes, definitely a let down. |
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