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Post by zarius on Nov 16, 2021 14:30:29 GMT
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 16, 2021 14:43:28 GMT
I'm shocked as well. I quite like the Arrowverse series apart from Supergirl and Batwoman. Ironically for all their wokeness, they suck at writing female heroes as much as, well as much as Chris Chibnall.
Still I've heard nothing but good things about this, even from people who normally can't stand the Arrowverse. It may breath new life into this dying franchise once again. (Arrowverse being the dying franchise not Superman.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 10:39:02 GMT
I cling on to Reeve's Superman a lot. I can't really accept anyone else in the role. Henry Cavill's version was disappointing and Routh was just playing Reeve's Superman in Returns. I fell in love with the character because of Reeve.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2022 23:28:25 GMT
Not a big Henry fan myself plus the darker didn't really fit Superman .his costume was too dark as well.
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 30, 2022 15:37:53 GMT
Just saw Batwahman and Legends have been cancelled. Not surprised really. Legends was great fun in its first three seasons. It was always a goofy, silly show, but it seemed to know when to tow the line and was a great laugh in those years. Season 4 however was awful in every way. Meta, preachy and too silly even by its standards. When you have someone saying they ship the main characters in the show itself, you know it's gone wrong.
5 was a slight improvement, but 6 was right back to the dregs of 4 again, with the preachiness even more obnoxious. (Also typically much like New Who, despite claiming to be left and woke, it actually came over as being quite right wing. There was an episode where Castro is shown to try and launch an atomic missile at the US. Castro was not a great man, but to make out that he was a psychopath that wanted to destroy the world in an atomic holocaust comes over as ironically being like a parody of bad, anti communist propaganda in the 60s.)
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Post by mott1 on Apr 30, 2022 19:27:28 GMT
Just saw Batwahman and Legends have been cancelled. Not surprised really. Legends was great fun in its first three seasons. It was always a goofy, silly show, but it seemed to know when to tow the line and was a great laugh in those years. Season 4 however was awful in every way. Meta, preachy and too silly even by its standards. When you have someone saying they ship the main characters in the show itself, you know it's gone wrong. 5 was a slight improvement, but 6 was right back to the dregs of 4 again, with the preachiness even more obnoxious. (Also typically much like New Who, despite claiming to be left and woke, it actually came over as being quite right wing. There was an episode where Castro is shown to try and launch an atomic missile at the US. Castro was not a great man, but to make out that he was a psychopath that wanted to destroy the world in an atomic holocaust comes over as ironically being like a parody of bad, anti communist propaganda in the 60s.) Batwoman was a disaster from the start. An obnoxious heroine played by an actress with the acting range of Will Smith, who walked out claiming harassment after 1 season (sounds familiar?) In subsequent episodes her on-screen Dad failed to notice his daughter had changed race, whilst the constant emphasis on her alter-ego 'coming out' at the same time as she started running a gay club was ludicrous. |
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Post by burrunjor on May 1, 2022 10:00:29 GMT
Just saw Batwahman and Legends have been cancelled. Not surprised really. Legends was great fun in its first three seasons. It was always a goofy, silly show, but it seemed to know when to tow the line and was a great laugh in those years. Season 4 however was awful in every way. Meta, preachy and too silly even by its standards. When you have someone saying they ship the main characters in the show itself, you know it's gone wrong. 5 was a slight improvement, but 6 was right back to the dregs of 4 again, with the preachiness even more obnoxious. (Also typically much like New Who, despite claiming to be left and woke, it actually came over as being quite right wing. There was an episode where Castro is shown to try and launch an atomic missile at the US. Castro was not a great man, but to make out that he was a psychopath that wanted to destroy the world in an atomic holocaust comes over as ironically being like a parody of bad, anti communist propaganda in the 60s.) Batwoman was a disaster from the start. An obnoxious heroine played by an actress with the acting range of Will Smith, who walked out claiming harassment after 1 season (sounds familiar?) In subsequent episodes her on-screen Dad failed to notice his daughter had changed race, whilst the constant emphasis on her alter-ego 'coming out' at the same time as she started running a gay club was ludicrous. SJW themed shows are bad for women and minorities most of all. That's the most hilarious thing about it. I admit I hated them at first because they were destroying things like DW, but now DW is dead and to be honest on closer analysis it was the spineless, creepy, cult like fans that killed it more than the SJWs. My main beef with woke culture now is because I yearn for good, 3 dimensional female heroes. An SJW, or woke show however will be too busy congratulating itself for having a woman, or a lesbian, black, non binary woman in a wheelchair as the hero that it will fail to give her a characterisation or interesting enemies or anything like that, that you know a good hero, man or woman needs! Here check out the intros and taglines for Buffy and Xena, made before the SJW craze. In a time of ancient gods, warlords, and kings, a land in turmoil cried out for a hero. She was Xena, a mighty princess forged in the heat of battle. The power, the passion, the danger. Her courage will change the world.
Into every generation a slayer is born: one girl in all the world, a chosen one. She alone will wield the strength and skill to fight the vampires, demons, and the forces of darkness; to stop the spread of their evil and the swell of their number. She is the Slayer."
Now look at the intro and tagline for Batwahman. "I'm a woman."
" The hero we need is here." With the e flickering in and out. Do you get it? That really sums it all up. |
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Post by RobFilth on May 1, 2022 19:32:06 GMT
Burrunjor, absolutely NONE of the shallow celebrity liberal media identitarians you rightfully pour scorn on to are "Social Justice Warriors" or "woke", you know? They are tokenistic empty platitude liberals who wouldn't recognise what Social Justice was even if Rodney King suddenly resurrected from the grave and gave them all a good bitch-slap around the back of the head.
in fact by calling them as such you deride true social justice which is concerned about Justice for the Grenfell victims, justice for people like Ian Tomlinson and Jean Charles De Menezes, both murdered by the police and of which no one has been held accountable, those who campaign for the thousands killed by benefit sanctions or indeed those who campaigned for Justice for the Hillsborough 97.
Social Justice is about standing up to the corruption of an unaccountable state and wokeness is about being aware of that very corruption.
Neither is about some celebrity f*ckwit name checking various marginalised people for hipster Liberal platitudes.
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Post by burrunjor on May 4, 2022 11:57:41 GMT
Burrunjor, absolutely NONE of the shallow celebrity liberal media identitarians you rightfully pour scorn on to are "Social Justice Warriors" or "woke", you know? They are tokenistic empty platitude liberals who wouldn't recognise what Social Justice was even if Rodney King suddenly resurrected from the grave and gave them all a good bitch-slap around the back of the head. in fact by calling them as such you deride true social justice which is concerned about Justice for the Grenfell victims, justice for people like Ian Tomlinson and Jean Charles De Menezes, both murdered by the police and of which no one has been held accountable, those who campaign for the thousands killed by benefit sanctions or indeed those who campaigned for Justice for the Hillsborough 97. Social Justice is about standing up to the corruption of an unaccountable state and wokeness is about being aware of that very corruption. Neither is about some celebrity f*ckwit name checking various marginalised people for hipster Liberal platitudes. Sorry Rob but you're just splitting hairs here. Who cares what we call them? Hippies, Punk Poets, SJWs, regressive left, it's the same shit. Also for the record I think Social Justice Warrior is a good name as it's an ironic name. No one who fights for social justice would actually call themselves a "warrior". Martin Luther King wasn't a "warrior". Very few people are actually social justice warriors. Spartacus, Che Guevara perhaps? It's designed to point out how these upper middle class twonks who think they are Che, are anything but. Only problem is a lot of them actually think that we are actually calling them SJWs, but in some ways that makes it funnier. It's like an Internet Tough Guy thinking "oh they think I'm really tough." |
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Post by RobFilth on May 5, 2022 8:25:55 GMT
Sorry Rob but you're just splitting hairs here. Who cares what we call them? Hippies, Punk Poets, SJWs, regressive left, it's the same shit. It's not though, most of which you highlight do NOT have have celebrity cult status or an establishment media to sound off. Social Justice is about protesting establishment corruption in things such as Apartheid, institutional racism, unaccounted Police slayings, failure in ensuring social standards or health and safety which have led to corporate manslaughter etc, not bandwagoning identitarian causes with empty platitudes or "virtue signalling" as the shallow cult of celebrity often do and whom you quite rightly give a slagging toward. To wrongly called them "SJW's" or "woke" is using rightwing misappropriation whose sole intention is to undermine awareness in social injustice and lump those who do fight for such causes unfairly in with a bunch of vacuous pampered celebrity prats who wouldn't understand what Social Justice was even if Blair Peach resurrected from the grave to give them all a clump around the back of the head with a cricket bat.. Also for the record I think Social Justice Warrior is a good name as it's an ironic name. No one who fights for social justice would actually call themselves a "warrior". Martin Luther King wasn't a "warrior". Very few people are actually social justice warriors. Spartacus, Che Guevara perhaps? It's designed to point out how these upper middle class twonks who think they are Che, are anything but. Only problem is a lot of them actually think that we are actually calling them SJWs, but in some ways that makes it funnier. It's like an Internet Tough Guy thinking "oh they think I'm really tough." Martin Luther King may not have been a warrior in the physical sense, but he was in that he was demonized and fighting against a very rightwing centralised establishment media whom vilified him as a "racist" and "terrorist" every single day. Spartacus and Che Guevara were revolutionaries, which is completely different to those who campaign for Social Justice like the families of the Hillsborough victims for example. I'm aware that the internet has empowered the rightwing keyboard warriors with a whole new misappropriated language which has subsequently become very popular within mainstream media outlets, but that does not technically make it the correct vernacular. |
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