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Post by Genkimonk on Nov 4, 2021 0:54:47 GMT
Well fokk. I mean, I think surrendering control form the canutes is a step in the right direction, but....
NOT TO fokkING RTD!!! Seriously, why is it always one step forward, twenty miles backwards when it comes to this show?
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Post by iank on Nov 4, 2021 8:01:09 GMT
People who don't understand Doctor Who surrender creative control... to someone who doesn't understand Doctor Who. That's progress, folks!  |
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Post by burrunjor on Nov 4, 2021 8:54:07 GMT
So depressing. I would have loved to hear that the BBC are giving it to someone, but this asshole? He is the reason is trapped in the mire it is in now.
I've given up on the series now. Honestly don't care, I didn't even watch Jodie's first episode because I don't care.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 20:02:52 GMT
Welp this is why I'm watch watching the classic era and japanese shows with men in rubber monster suits kicking the shite out of each other. It's actually fun.
As for nuwho... or the future of the franchise... hope just f*cked right off.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 5, 2021 23:54:30 GMT
The amount of money they stand to lose over this move is insane. Has it really not occurred to them that a far cheaper and more effective way of fixing an ailing science fiction series might be to actually hire a producer with a proven track record in science fiction and some competent science fiction writers...?
But nooooo, that would just make too much sense wouldn't it? Far too obvious AND we'd end up with just a niche audience product. Imagine that; Doctor Who with only 4 million viewers. CAN'T be allowed to happen...!
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Post by zarius on Nov 25, 2021 17:07:16 GMT
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Post by iank on Nov 25, 2021 20:37:34 GMT
Talk about beating a dead horse. I don't know what wonders they think they can perform on this dead show.
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Post by UncleDeadly on Nov 25, 2021 21:07:29 GMT
Talk about beating a dead horse. I don't know what wonders they think they can perform on this dead show. Negligible. Unless Necromancy was what Davies read at Oxford. |
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Post by Genkimonk on Nov 26, 2021 3:33:31 GMT
At least we can bask in the knowledge RTD is personally going to suffer financially when his show fails.
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Post by iank on Nov 26, 2021 7:57:53 GMT
He's not, though. It's not his company, it's Julie Gardner and Jane Tranter's. They've just hired him.
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Post by fredjones on Nov 26, 2021 8:39:11 GMT
Perhaps it will be like that new abba album.
The old band getting back together trying to recreate past "glories".
Or indeed like the recent TFI friday episodes with RTD being the new Chris Evans.
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Post by Genkimonk on Nov 26, 2021 11:13:40 GMT
This is what is going to happen:
The show will come back and flop harder than Barrowman's dick.
People will blame RTD for continuing the "woke" agenda.
People will re-evaluate his past stuff and come to the conclusion it was always shit.
RTD's rep will fall, and his past achievements will be forgotten.
It is going to be great.
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Post by fredjones on Nov 26, 2021 17:26:53 GMT
And then they will make the same mistake again with some other program. Well that's what usually happens in such cases |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 21:12:57 GMT
The end result is that we and Doctor Who lose.
A bitter pill that not even RTD failure will get rid of the taste of. I’ll be right there with Monk, pleased as punch to watch this wreck burn to the ground, but it doesn’t change the damage done.
The toxic groups, violent division and horrific damage done to this franchise and its fans will take years to heal, if it ever dose at all.
Once this show final gets pulled, I’m not shore it will ever get back on air. The show is now just so toxic that maybe none will ever want to touch it, hell maybe that’s why the BBC wanted shot of nuwho. It’s truly just not worth it anymore.
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Post by fredjones on Nov 26, 2021 22:25:43 GMT
The end result is that we and Doctor Who lose. A bitter pill that not even RTD failure will get rid of the taste of. I’ll be right there with Monk, pleased as punch to watch this wreck burn to the ground, but it doesn’t change the damage done. The toxic groups, violent division and horrific damage done to this franchise and its fans will take years to heal, if it ever dose at all. Once this show final gets pulled, I’m not shore it will ever get back on air. The show is now just so toxic that maybe none will ever want to touch it, hell maybe that’s why the BBC wanted shot of nuwho. It’s truly just not worth it anymore. I think the new series can be viewed as separate because of the fundamental stylistic change (theatre to film) as well as the gap between the new series and the classic series. And because new series fans do not generally watch the old series. As regards fandom, it is a rather peculiar situation, one which I really did not envisage If one goes by the stereotype of a classic series fan, many people would have said that fans were antisocial, obsessive, bores. Or to put it more bluntly on the spectrum. It is true to state that in certain cases there might have been the odd individual who would go so far as to say not very nice things about the BBC and so on or indeed to threaten to invade television center with Daleks but then again there were those who sent the actor who played Miss Mangel hate mail. This was however a rarity. And where you got someone like Ian Levine, an individual whom people made fun of, you got someone who did something positive and recovered material for the BBC. The odd and unexpected thing is that such people simply cannot compare with new series fans based upon my experience something which is corroborated by people here. Fans of the series now tend to be what is called "woke" (even going back to 2005), or indeed rather more than "woke" in many cases, far nastier as part of which they tend to have a go old series fans taking aim at their personal characteristics. They are or at least were part of the zeitgeist. Moreover the new series is demonstrably less intelligent than the old series I personally take a great deal of comfort and satisfaction from the fact that new series fans behave far worse and are far less intelligent than classic series fans given that the new series is proving to be such a flop. I hope others do too and treat that as recompense The new series is so bad that where it fails, as it invariably does, you can't even, as you would do with the old series, make fun of it or treat it like a science fiction version of eurovision. |
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