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Post by RobFilth on Mar 4, 2021 19:41:21 GMT
What NuPooh Stories do you think could make the cut as Classic Series ones with a bit of editing?
i.e. I always thought with a slight bit of editing, "The Unquiet Dead" might make the grade. If you got rid of Ecclestons gormless face and put in Mcgann instead and edited out twatty lines like "Go on Charlie Boy" etc it might make a suitable classic series grade of story.
Likewise if you ditched Missy/Simm, put in a decent Master and got rid of the shithouse puddle creature ending, then "World Enough and Time/Doctor Falls" might be salvageable.
Ditch Roses moron family and Tennant from "Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel" and put some proper cybermen in there with proper cyber-conversion then that might just make the grade.
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Post by iank on Mar 4, 2021 20:46:21 GMT
Time of Angels.
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 4, 2021 21:24:34 GMT
The Next Doctor. The Cyber Kaiju would have to go, but the rest of it could work.
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Post by mott1 on Mar 4, 2021 21:25:12 GMT
The trouble is they still feel like a completely different show, even when they're decent. But Dalek, Into The Dalek, Blink, The Girl Who Waited, Mummy On The Orient Express and Sleep No More are all particularly strong, and Flatline had a particularly original concept.
I always wanted the waxworks two-parter one in Matt Smith's era to make the grade, but it went off in the 2nd half...
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 4, 2021 21:25:20 GMT
Just to be clear though I LOVE the Cyber Kaiju, I just don't think it would fit with Old Who. I'd love to see a Kaiju fight between the Cyber King and the Skarasan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 0:47:59 GMT
What NuPooh Stories do you think could make the cut as Classic Series ones with a bit of editing? i.e. I always thought with a slight bit of editing, "The Unquiet Dead" might make the grade. If you got rid of Ecclestons gormless face and put in Mcgann instead and edited out twatty lines like "Go on Charlie Boy" etc it might make a suitable classic series grade of story. Likewise if you ditched Missy/Simm, put in a decent Master and got rid of the shithouse puddle creature ending, then "World Enough and Time/Doctor Falls" might be salvageable. Ditch Roses moron family and Tennant from "Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel" and put some proper cybermen in there with proper cyber-conversion then that might just make the grade. That's the whole problem with NuHu isn't though. Even when they have a good idea, or the bones of a good story, they completely f*ck it up with all the NuHu-isms. I actually think those stories where they do that are more annoying than the vast majority which are utter wank through and through. Simply because they show the potential is there, and then they throw it away every time. |
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 5, 2021 8:34:17 GMT
Fathers Day: The whole gothic atmosphere and design of the monsters look very much like they would excel with Mcgann, likewise Unquiet Dead. Yeah, Fathers Day would make the cut as possibly a McGann or McCoy story if you cut out the plinky plonk emo-gush. |
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 5, 2021 8:39:26 GMT
That's the whole problem with NuHu isn't though. Even when they have a good idea, or the bones of a good story, they completely f*ck it up with all the NuHu-isms. I actually think those stories where they do that are more annoying than the vast majority which are utter wank through and through. Simply because they show the potential is there, and then they throw it away every time. Yup, I mean take "Empress of Mars" it could have ALMOST made the cut had they set it on Peladon instead of the daft decision to move it to the Mars instead - WHY? Just so they can have Victorian colonial twats in it? |
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Post by RobFilth on Mar 5, 2021 8:41:37 GMT
The trouble is they still feel like a completely different show, even when they're decent. But Dalek, Into The Dalek, Blink, The Girl Who Waited, Mummy On The Orient Express and Sleep No More are all particularly strong, and Flatline had a particularly original concept. I always wanted the waxworks two-parter one in Matt Smith's era to make the grade, but it went off in the 2nd half... Yeah I really wanted that one to be good too and it just ended up drowning in it's own dullness, the same with Capaldi's "Under the Lake" 2 parter. |
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Post by burrunjor on Mar 5, 2021 9:35:58 GMT
That's the whole problem with NuHu isn't though. Even when they have a good idea, or the bones of a good story, they completely f*ck it up with all the NuHu-isms. I actually think those stories where they do that are more annoying than the vast majority which are utter wank through and through. Simply because they show the potential is there, and then they throw it away every time. Yup, I mean take "Empress of Mars" it could have ALMOST made the cut had they set it on Peladon instead of the daft decision to move it to the Mars instead - WHY? Just so they can have Victorian colonial twats in it? I think Gatiss was trying to evoke Edgar Rice Burroughs John Carter of Mars stories. I personally quite liked the Mars setting. Strangely apart from a brief moment in Pyramids of Mars it's a planet that hasn't been explored much. Not to get off topic but I'd also like to see a DW story set on Venus, but it's an outdated version of Venus. Back in the early part of the 20th Century it was believed that Venus was capable of housing life, and people thought it might be a jungle planet because it was seemingly covered in clouds. As a result most sci fi stories set on Venus in that time depict it as an ocean/tropical rain forest world. Dinosaurs or reptiles are often the dominant life. (Examples of this include Dan Dare and Pathfinders to Venus.) I think it would be cool if modern Who revisited that trope. We know that Venusians exist in DW, so why not. (Obviously I mean a proper alternate sequel, not Chibnall.) |
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