|
|
Post by RobFilth on Jul 18, 2021 17:43:00 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by RobFilth on Jul 18, 2021 17:48:24 GMT
|
|
|
|
Post by RobFilth on Jul 18, 2021 18:01:25 GMT
Meh! and now I've just noticed there was an earlier thread advertising this.
Ignore me, I'm a dickhead.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 14:18:08 GMT
Even £12.99 is a bit expensive. I suppose we get seven episodes which is nearly the length of two four part serials. Probably be a ton of extras too like the reconstructed version of the story, archive footage and the inevitable photo gallery.
|
|
|
|
Post by Monster X on Sept 27, 2021 17:27:21 GMT
Just watched the first two (colour) episodes.
The animation is better than Fury From The Deep but not as good as the two missing animated episodes from The Invasion (I doubt anything ever will be). About the same quality as The Faceless Ones (although they haven't captured Troughton's likeness quite as well). Great fun - I love this serial.
More to follow...
|
|
|
|
Post by Bernard Marx on Sept 27, 2021 18:37:17 GMT
Just watched the first two episodes(colour version). Animation is better than Fury but not as good as the two missing animated eps from The Invasion (I doubt anything will be). About the same as The Faceless Ones (although to me they haven't captured Troughton's likeness quite as well). Great fun - I love this serial. More to follow... Watched it all just now in monochrome. It's not *quite* as good as the Invasion animations, but it's definitely in the higher tier for me. The movements are excellently rendered, as are the Daleks themselves- it's Troughton's face that looks slightly off, but beyond that, I'm very happy with this effort, and the story itself is great. The last two episodes set on Skaro stands out as some of the best of the decade. |
|
|
|
Post by iank on Sept 27, 2021 20:34:47 GMT
Looking forward to this one... if it ever comes out here!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 7:42:22 GMT
I watched all but the final episode last night, I’m on the tail end of a cold, but it was very good. The Daleks in particular are really great here, and it’s so good to see the original emperor.
I was watching a review of this story and they were a fan of Evolution of the Daleks and they were rather shocked at how much that had lifted from Evil, and how Evil was better.
|
|
|
|
Post by Monster X on Sept 28, 2021 13:49:50 GMT
Spoiler: The animated Maxtible no longer smokes his cigar.
|
|
|
|
Post by Monster X on Sept 28, 2021 14:11:07 GMT
Just finished watching and it was very good indeed - in particular, the Daleks and the Emperor look grand - the Recon version of Evil is also excellent.
However, it's a bitter-sweet experience watching these animations- on one level I really appreciate the opportunity to see lost episodes (after a fashion) but the more I enjoy them, the more I realize how very unfortunate it is that they no longer exist in their original form. Sad, really.
'The Dalek Factor' documentary was quite interesting.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2021 20:04:54 GMT
Ok watched the final episode and wow, what a great conclusion.
While I really enjoyed this, I would still rank it as one of, if not the weakest Dalek story of the 60’s personally. That said it’s still a really good story and worthy of reanimating.
|
|
|
|
Post by Monster X on Sept 28, 2021 21:46:59 GMT
Ok watched the final episode and wow, what a great conclusion. While I really enjoyed this, I would still rank it as one of, if not the weakest Dalek story of the 60’s personally. That said it’s still a really good story and worthy of reanimating. Hmm.. it does sag a bit in the middle, I admit (Jamie and Kemel's fighting scenes, for instance) and some subplots/characters don't really go anywhere or add much to the story (Arthur Terrell and Ruth Maxtiple, and Toby, too). Also, I don't really get Maxtiple's passion for alchemy - surely the ability to travel through time would give him far more power/influence than a big pile of gold? But generally, I adore this serial - it's the Doctor's first proper trip to the Victorian age ( The Forsyte Saga TV series had just been a enormous hit a few months earlier on BBC 2 and following Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Victoriana was everywhere in the late '60s) and we see the ruthless, manipulative side to the Doctor's character. Listen to the distorted Daleks voices in Evil - they've never sounded so grating, harsh and unpleasant before (or since).
"There is only one form of life that matters: Dalek life. Obey your orders, Waterfield!" |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2021 10:01:09 GMT
Ok watched the final episode and wow, what a great conclusion. While I really enjoyed this, I would still rank it as one of, if not the weakest Dalek story of the 60’s personally. That said it’s still a really good story and worthy of reanimating. Hmm.. it does sag a bit in the middle, I admit (Jamie and Kemel's fighting scenes, for instance) and some subplots/characters don't really go anywhere or add much to the story (Arthur Terrell and Ruth Maxtiple, and Toby, too). Also, I don't really get Maxtiple's passion for alchemy - surely the ability to travel through time would give him far more power/influence than a big pile of gold? But generally, I adore this serial - it's the Doctor's first proper trip to the Victorian age ( The Forsyte Saga TV series had just been a enormous hit a few months earlier on BBC 2 and following Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Victoriana was everywhere in the late '60s) and we see the ruthless, manipulative side to the Doctor's character. Listen to the distorted Daleks voices in Evil - they've never sounded so grating, harsh and unpleasant before (or since).
"There is only one form of life that matters: Dalek life. Obey your orders, Waterfield!" Don’t get me wrong, Evil is a great story and there’s a lot to like, as you point out, and to add one of my own this is the second and last story in which the Daleks proactively go after the Doctor in the classic series, and possibly nuwho though my memory of some of it is a bit fuzzy these days. Maybe it just doesn’t gel with me personally, as I always felt this way even when it was just in audio, yet I cannot put my finger on why I like it less then others. The Dalek Invasion of Earth is my favourite of the era and ranks as one of my favourite stories ever. Daleks is an amazing price of original sci-if story telling. Power was stroke of genius. The Chase is just fun, pure and simple, yes it’s silly but it’s done in such great way that I can’t help but love it. Master Plan and Evil currently tie for the lowest though, though on reflection Evil is likely better solely due to the fact that Master Plan was artificially lengthens into a 12 episode epic that tanks the stories narrative flow. |
|
|
|
Post by Monster X on Sept 29, 2021 11:05:03 GMT
Hmm.. it does sag a bit in the middle, I admit (Jamie and Kemel's fighting scenes, for instance) and some subplots/characters don't really go anywhere or add much to the story (Arthur Terrell and Ruth Maxtiple, and Toby, too). Also, I don't really get Maxtiple's passion for alchemy - surely the ability to travel through time would give him far more power/influence than a big pile of gold? But generally, I adore this serial - it's the Doctor's first proper trip to the Victorian age ( The Forsyte Saga TV series had just been a enormous hit a few months earlier on BBC 2 and following Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, Victoriana was everywhere in the late '60s) and we see the ruthless, manipulative side to the Doctor's character. Listen to the distorted Daleks voices in Evil - they've never sounded so grating, harsh and unpleasant before (or since).
"There is only one form of life that matters: Dalek life. Obey your orders, Waterfield!" Don’t get me wrong, Evil is a great story and there’s a lot to like, as you point out, and to add one of my own this is the second and last story in which the Daleks proactively go after the Doctor in the classic series, and possibly nuwho though my memory of some of it is a bit fuzzy these days. Maybe it just doesn’t gel with me personally, as I always felt this way even when it was just in audio, yet I cannot put my finger on why I like it less then others. The Dalek Invasion of Earth is my favourite of the era and ranks as one of my favourite stories ever. Daleks is an amazing price of original sci-if story telling. Power was stroke of genius. The Chase is just fun, pure and simple, yes it’s silly but it’s done in such great way that I can’t help but love it. Master Plan and Evil currently tie for the lowest though, though on reflection Evil is likely better solely due to the fact that Master Plan was artificially lengthens into a 12 episode epic that tanks the stories narrative flow. hat's cool, you don't have to justify it, we all like different things.  Yes, I'm very fond of all the '60s Dalek serials ( although I find that The Chase does go off the boil a bit after the first few episodes and doesn't pick up again until the end) but my favourites are Power and Evil - so maybe it's David Whitaker's skill as a writer I'm reacting to, not necessarily the presence of the belligerent pepper pots . I certainly like his other Who stuff (and in particular, his lovely Dalek strip in TV 21 magazine) - it's just unfortunate that he shares his surname with a far-less loved Whittaker!! (well almost, the Queen of Gurn's name has an extra 't').  |
|
billpatjontom
Certified Mob Rallying Heretic Crank
True Who will rule the Universe!
Posts: 100
|
Post by billpatjontom on Sept 29, 2021 18:04:19 GMT
Just watched the new release of Evil and very happy to say I really enjoyed it. Not watched the B&W version yet, just the colour but it looked pretty good to me. Of course the animation isn't perfect - although I reckon it's a hell of a lot better than the recent Web animation effort - and perhaps it's never going to be the definitive version. Well I suppose that only if all the complete episodes were still in existence and available to be remastered could we ever have a truly definitive version of this story anyway. Nevertheless I felt very satisfied with how this version allowed me to follow the entire story in a coherent way and so, for me, it felt almost like watching some "new" true Who for the first time in a long while. And it's just wonderful to experience a fully fledged Troughton classic and it's most definitely recommended |
|
