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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2021 22:06:32 GMT
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Post by iank on Jun 4, 2021 23:03:36 GMT
Burton. Don't like either of the others - Schumacher's is too silly, and Nolan's is too much in the other direction.
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Post by burrunjor on Jun 5, 2021 10:09:32 GMT
Oh come on Maxil. Now you are just trying to be different.  Batman and Robin is utter crap. I went for the Burton Batman movies. Whilst I like Nolan's take, ultimately I don't think you can top the creepy, gothic feel of the Burton flicks and Batman Returns is so beautifully shot. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 12:27:50 GMT
Oh come on Maxil. Now you are just trying to be different. Batman and Robin is utter crap. I went for the Burton Batman movies. Whilst I like Nolan's take, ultimately I don't think you can top the creepy, gothic feel of the Burton flicks and Batman Returns is so beautifully shot. Lol I'm not. I genuinely love the films. You should all know my taste by now. What many consider trash I consider gold. "Batman and Robin is utter crap" I think people write it off far too easily. It's an amazing spectacle with striking cinematography and an expanded Gotham City. Look at the scene where Poison Ivy reveals herself at the charity ball. The imagery is absolutely sublime as is when Robin enters her hideout. In fact, any scene with Ivy kicks arse. Thurman bosses the show and the costume design is remarkable and iconic. Next to Jim Carrey's Riddler she is my favourite Batman villain. In terms of the plot this is the most whimsical live action Batman film ever. It's so far removed from reality and logic that it becomes surreal. It's a feast of entertainment with the usual finesse of Schumacher's direction on display and some wonderful neon lighting. Say what you want about his Gotham, but it feels like a bigger place than it did in the original Batman. I like other things in the movie like Alicia Silverstone's Buttgi- I mean, Batgirl! I also dig the soundtrack which is a collection of late 90s grunge and electronic music and suits the film perfectly especially during the bike race. The set pieces are impressive as is the CGI of the time (much better than Forever's, I think). Overall, it's one of my favourite films from the 1990s and I have some fond memories of watching it as a kid. To be honest, if I want something gritty and realistic like Nolan's Batman then I'll just put on the news. Batman & Robin is wonderful escapism on the other hand. |
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Post by henshin on Jun 9, 2021 23:16:24 GMT
I voted Nolan's Batman because I do love his trilogy (the third film dropping the ball quite a bit, however).
But I will say this; when it comes to live action Batman films, when it comes to tone and aesthetic style, nobody has come close to capturing the gothic noir tinged world of Batman than Burton. It's dark, whimsical, quirky and probably what a comic book universe would look like if it were to actually exist in flesh and blood.
Again, I love Nolan's Batman, but his approach to adapting a comic book to real life is to insert costumed vigilantes into The Usual Suspects or Heat.
To me, that was the precursor to what would make Joker such a tepid farce of a film in that it was just Taxi Driver with a protagonist who wore clown make-up.
Schumacher? I actually liked Batman Forever but Batman & Robin took the worst elements of his first film to the point of breaking immersion.
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Post by Bernard Marx on Jun 10, 2021 7:58:10 GMT
I voted Nolan's Batman because I do love his trilogy (the third film dropping the ball quite a bit, however). But I will say this; when it comes to live action Batman films, when it comes to tone and aesthetic style, nobody has come close to capturing the gothic noir tinged world of Batman than Burton. It's dark, whimsical, quirky and probably what a comic book universe would look like if it were to actually exist in flesh and blood. Again, I love Nolan's Batman, but his approach to adapting a comic book to real life is to insert costumed vigilantes into The Usual Suspects or Heat. To me, that was the precursor to what would make Joker such a tepid farce of a film in that it was just Taxi Driver with a protagonist who wore clown make-up. Schumacher? I actually liked Batman Forever but Batman & Robin took the worst elements of his first film to the point of breaking immersion. Can’t say I agree entirely with this. I voted for Nolan’s Batman myself, and concur that Dark Knight Rises is the weakest of the three and that the Burton films are best for atmosphere, yet I also think The Usual Suspects and Heat are both massively overrated films. The former in particular is only renowned for its twist ending, and it’s aged appallingly. Equally, I think the Joker/Taxi Driver comparisons are superficial at best. Arthur Fleck and Travis Bickle have bugger all in common beyond the respective settings of the film. The former is a disillusioned yet ultimately powerless man initially stripped of agency with a major disorder and self-consciousness with a penchant for dance, often mirroring Charlie Chaplin in his movements with the film explicitly alluding to his filmography (a more interesting comparison than Taxi Driver anyway), whilst the latter is a confidently rage-filled lunatic from the off with next to no endearing qualities at all, and one lacking in any modicum of self-consciousness. I’ll be sacrilegious and say that I reckon Taxi Driver is a much more overrated film anyway. DeNiro’s range is far more limited than Phoenix’s, for starter’s. |
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