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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Jun 27, 2024 13:03:54 GMT
Looking forward to Beverly Hills Cop 4 next week. Hopefully they can recapture the magic.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2024 15:12:20 GMT
I hate how modern films and TV look. The absolute drop in quality between those two photos is insane
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Post by iank on Jun 27, 2024 21:23:18 GMT
Oh God I thought I was the only one. The look of most modern shit puts me right off 99% of it. There's zero atmosphere or style.
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Post by iank on Jun 29, 2024 21:47:07 GMT
Saw The Conference on Netflix last night. A bunch of municipality workers go on a retreat to celebrate the imminent breaking ground of a new shopping mall (that most locals don't want), only to become the target of a psycho killer with a score to settle. This very entertaining 2023 Swedish slasher feels vaguely reminiscent of the 2006 British comedy-horror Severance but is a whole heap of fun.
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Post by Cherry Pepsi Maxil on Jul 3, 2024 13:30:10 GMT
Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F (2024)
Eddie Murphy returns as the wisecracking cop in this wildly disappointing sequel in which the three stars of the first two movies are barely on screen together until the end. The strained father/daughter relationship is eyerollingly clichéd and, to be honest, the whole thing is a bit dull. There's obviously the nostalgia and callbacks, but there's actually not a lot that's new here. It doesn't have a lot going for it I'm afraid.
4/10
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Post by iank on Jul 3, 2024 21:24:58 GMT
I figured as much. None of these things ever do.
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 3, 2024 21:28:23 GMT
I figured as much. None of these things ever do. Honestly people need to stop trying to relive their glories and recapture their childhoods. People were hard on Adrian Edmondson when he turned down doing another series of Bottom with Rik Mayall, but honestly if it wasn't up to scratch which it may not have been given their ages, perhaps that was for the best. I understand Ade saying he has regrets because poor Rik died not long after but still obviously you can never know something like that and Rik wasn't ill before hand, so yeah I think he made the right move that sadly lots of people are incapable of doing. |
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Post by megalomaniacal on Jul 4, 2024 9:48:32 GMT
I figured as much. None of these things ever do. Honestly people need to stop trying to relive their glories and recapture their childhoods. People were hard on Adrian Edmondson when he turned down doing another series of Bottom with Rik Mayall, but honestly if it wasn't up to scratch which it may not have been given their ages, perhaps that was for the best. I understand Ade saying he has regrets because poor Rik died not long after but still obviously you can never know something like that and Rik wasn't ill before hand, so yeah I think he made the right move that sadly lots of people are incapable of doing. Always admire the creative types who know when to call it day, rather than drive something that was one great deeply into the ground. So many examples of franchises that had successfully run their course and should have been left well alone, only to be resurrected for a cash-grab and diminished to a shadow of their former glory. :/ |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 4, 2024 10:32:55 GMT
Honestly people need to stop trying to relive their glories and recapture their childhoods. People were hard on Adrian Edmondson when he turned down doing another series of Bottom with Rik Mayall, but honestly if it wasn't up to scratch which it may not have been given their ages, perhaps that was for the best. I understand Ade saying he has regrets because poor Rik died not long after but still obviously you can never know something like that and Rik wasn't ill before hand, so yeah I think he made the right move that sadly lots of people are incapable of doing. Always admire the creative types who know when to call it day, rather than drive something that was one great deeply into the ground. So many examples of franchises that had successfully run their course and should have been left well alone, only to be resurrected for a cash-grab and diminished to a shadow of their former glory. :/ The Flash is a prime example of this. The first few seasons of The Flash are so creative, interesting, well thought out, the villains are among the best there has ever been, but by the end oh dear god. It was an absolute ordeal finishing the show. It went on I'd say about 4 seasons too long. Here, clip from the first season and the last. What's interesting is that these are with the same villain Eobard Thawne. In season 1 Thawne is one of the best villains in anything. He is charming, smooth, intelligent, menacing in an understated way (a rare accomplishment for a supervillain) and despite his initial plan being to murder a child, at times he can almost fool you into thinking he isn't such a bad guy. He also has a wide range of motivations and his relationship with the hero is a complex one of obsessive hatred, bitter resentment at not living up to his heroes expectations and in a twisted way, a father and son relationship too. Also Tom Cavannagh is absolutely exceptional in the role too. Flash forward to season 9 and oh dear god. Thawne is a one note joke of a villain whose only motive is "I HATE BARRY MWAHAHAHAHA" and at this stage he's come back and been defeated so many times you don't care. On top of that he's now playing off of characters he has 0 history with unlike Cisco who wisely f*cked off, his powers are nerfed, and whilst Tom Cavannagh is a good actor, his performance is more overtly campy and OTT (to make up for the fact that there is nothing else.) Best of all though he is bested by a supporting character in two seconds, when it took Barry an entire year to find him. Really that should be shown in creative writing classes as an example of know when to bow out. |
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Post by megalomaniacal on Jul 4, 2024 15:37:32 GMT
Always admire the creative types who know when to call it day, rather than drive something that was one great deeply into the ground. So many examples of franchises that had successfully run their course and should have been left well alone, only to be resurrected for a cash-grab and diminished to a shadow of their former glory. :/ The Flash is a prime example of this. The first few seasons of The Flash are so creative, interesting, well thought out, the villains are among the best there has ever been, but by the end oh dear god. It was an absolute ordeal finishing the show. It went on I'd say about 4 seasons too long. Here, clip from the first season and the last. What's interesting is that these are with the same villain Eobard Thawne. In season 1 Thawne is one of the best villains in anything. He is charming, smooth, intelligent, menacing in an understated way (a rare accomplishment for a supervillain) and despite his initial plan being to murder a child, at times he can almost fool you into thinking he isn't such a bad guy. He also has a wide range of motivations and his relationship with the hero is a complex one of obsessive hatred, bitter resentment at not living up to his heroes expectations and in a twisted way, a father and son relationship too. Also Tom Cavannagh is absolutely exceptional in the role too. Flash forward to season 9 and oh dear god. Thawne is a one note joke of a villain whose only motive is "I HATE BARRY MWAHAHAHAHA" and at this stage he's come back and been defeated so many times you don't care. On top of that he's now playing off of characters he has 0 history with unlike Cisco who wisely f*cked off, his powers are nerfed, and whilst Tom Cavannagh is a good actor, his performance is more overtly campy and OTT (to make up for the fact that there is nothing else.) Best of all though he is bested by a supporting character in two seconds, when it took Barry an entire year to find him. Really that should be shown in creative writing classes as an example of know when to bow out. Never watched that - but tempted to give the earlier episodes look... might dodge the later ones however... |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 4, 2024 17:18:59 GMT
Watched two horror films last night. Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things and the Dracula movie starring Jack Palance. The former was soooo overrated. It took about a f*cking hour for anything to start and when it did the Zombies weren't anything new or special. The cast were also such ridiculous caricatures of rowdy 70s kids they made the characters in Dracula AD 1972 look restrained and dignified by comparison.
The only one I liked was the dark haired babe with a HUGE nose. You're probably not surprised to hear that LOL. Still aside from being gorgeous she was actually the best one there, with her epic chewing out of the main guy when his spell went wrong being hilarious. In fact that was the only bit that amused me in the first hour. It wasn't terrible, but very by the numbers. About 6/10.
Dracula meanwhile was actually quite good. I avoided this one for a while because I thought it was like the Gary Oldman film, one where Dracula is just a misunderstood, romantic character which didn't interest me, but actually no Jack Palance, who was a very underrated actor was great at being a vicious, scary, blood thirsty and powerful Dracula. He's no Christopher Lee, and the movie doesn't really add much beyond the twist of Dracula actually being Vlad the Impaler (though even then Marvel had already beaten them to that.)
Still a decent enough adaptation with a great performance as the lead villain.
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Post by Ludders II on Jul 4, 2024 17:56:07 GMT
Dracula meanwhile was actually quite good. I avoided this one for a while because I thought it was like the Gary Oldman film, one where Dracula is just a misunderstood, romantic character which didn't interest me, but actually no Jack Palance, who was a very underrated actor was great at being a vicious, scary, blood thirsty and powerful Dracula. He's no Christopher Lee, and the movie doesn't really add much beyond the twist of Dracula actually being Vlad the Impaler (though even then Marvel had already beaten them to that.) Still a decent enough adaptation with a great performance as the lead villain. Pleased you thought this version was OK at least. I rated it pretty highly. Palance is far better than I expected him to be, having only seen him in war movies and westerns before this. He's quite ferocious! The Coppola film definitely leaned heavily on this version for the romance stuff, but this version underplays it quite considerably, whereas the Coppola film it's virtually the whole movie by comparison. I need to watch the Palance version again sometime. It's been years. |
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Post by burrunjor on Jul 4, 2024 18:05:15 GMT
Dracula meanwhile was actually quite good. I avoided this one for a while because I thought it was like the Gary Oldman film, one where Dracula is just a misunderstood, romantic character which didn't interest me, but actually no Jack Palance, who was a very underrated actor was great at being a vicious, scary, blood thirsty and powerful Dracula. He's no Christopher Lee, and the movie doesn't really add much beyond the twist of Dracula actually being Vlad the Impaler (though even then Marvel had already beaten them to that.) Still a decent enough adaptation with a great performance as the lead villain. Pleased you thought this version was OK at least. I rated it pretty highly. Palance is far better than I expected him to be, having only seen him in war movies and westerns before this. He's quite ferocious! The Coppola film definitely leaned heavily on this version for the romance stuff, but this version underplays it quite considerably, whereas the Coppola film it's virtually the whole movie by comparison. I need to watch the Palance version again sometime. It's been years. Really it's only problem is that it just doesn't bring anything new to a story that has been done so many times. That's it. Everything else worked brilliantly. As far as comparing it with horror movies of the time goes then it is far above average, but when compared with other definitive Dracula's like the original Lee or Lugosi films then it is fairly run of the mill. Still that said not every movie that does something new is automatically a classic. The last three Hammer Dracula's, Dracula AD 1972, Satanic Rites of Dracula and Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires are among the most creative, original, fresh and ahead of their time vampire movies ever made. Seriously, so many of the ideas these movies did first would become staples of later vampire things like Buffy/Angel/Blade/Being Human and inspire entire subgenres of vampire fiction like the Hong Kong vampire craze. However all three are generally not highly regarded because the execution is very cheesy and schlocky, though I actually think Satanic Rites is a good film overall and is unfairly bashed, but yeah Golden Vampires has a very thin story, and can come over as just another Bruceploitation movie, whilst Dracula AD as much as I find it incredibly enjoyable, is very schlocky LOL. Johnny Alucard's death scene is f*cking hysterical. "YOUUUUUU'''LLLL NEEEEEVVVVEEEERRRR FIIIIIINNNNNDDD HEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR". As he dies in a shower hahaha. There's no denying that the Palance Dracula is better made than any of them (apart from Satanic Rites) but again it's overall I think surprisingly more of a minor chapter in the Dracula legacy, (though it did lead to the romance angle in the Coppola film, but again I'm not a fan of that movie.) |
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Post by rushy on Jul 4, 2024 18:20:02 GMT
I actually like Golden Vampires a lot more than Satanic Rites - introducing the lore of the Chinese vampires was a really great idea and they could've gone more international if they'd done further sequels. It was probably the most original follow-up. Satanic Rites is just kinda throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks, with very sluggish pacing. I also can't help but suspect that Houghton initially wrote it as a Pertwee serial...
Dracula: Prince of Darkness is my favourite Lee era film though. It's the simplest and most atmospheric. The only thing missing is Cushing (and maybe some dialogue for Lee)
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Post by Ludders II on Jul 4, 2024 18:34:38 GMT
Dracula: Prince of Darkness is my favourite Lee era film though. It's the simplest and most atmospheric. The only thing missing is Cushing (and maybe some dialogue for Lee) Me too. Mind you, it was the first one I saw, when I was aged 11, so it had a big impact on me. Even though I watched it on a black and white portable TV in 1974. ☺️ |
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