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Post by mott1 on Apr 16, 2021 11:50:01 GMT
I have seen (and own) all 3 of them and have differing opinions on each, but what are yours? Do we think there will be a 4th?
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 16, 2021 12:05:13 GMT
I have seen (and own) all 3 of them and have differing opinions on each, but what are yours? Do we think there will be a 4th? Are these the new timeline films? If so sorry, I think they are all shit. Not quite as bad as New Who, but getting there. The first one was pretty crap overall. Simon Pegg was awful as Scotty, Quinto wasn't much better as Spock, and they wrote Spock out of character. Also I hated making Kirk a cliched wild child rebel. Totally missed the point of Kirk. The second film meanwhile was atrocious. A lazy retread of the greatest Trek film (and one of the greatest sci fi stories of all time.) But done so much worse. Literally the only thing they did differently was "Hey look now Kirk and Spock are on the opposite ends of the glass." Quinto's KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN actually made me laugh. Cumberbatch was also terribly miscast as Khan in every way. Finally the resolution was just a typical generic action movie fight. The third one meanwhile was so generic and boring I actually fell asleep during the middle of it. I can't remember a single thing about it, except one bit where Spock is uncharacteristically weepy and mopey (they wrote Spock EXACTLY like how RTD wrote the Doctor. In both cases we have a distant, alien character that the new writer thinks "nah that's boring let's make him a tortured sexy character and have him be in a relationship with someone because that is more interesting than anything else.".) The only good thing about it was Karl Urban as Bones. Urban's a great actor and he fit the role brilliantly. Other than that, flush it down the toilet with the other turds like the Capaldi era, Pisstaker era, STD, that crappy new Star Trek animated series, that Marvel comic that made out that Jordan Peterson is the Red Skull and JJ Abrams equally shit, up its own arse version of Star Wars. |
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Post by mott1 on Apr 16, 2021 12:56:14 GMT
I have seen (and own) all 3 of them and have differing opinions on each, but what are yours? Do we think there will be a 4th? Are these the new timeline films? If so sorry, I think they are all shit. Not quite as bad as New Who, but getting there. The first one was pretty crap overall. Simon Pegg was awful as Scotty, Quinto wasn't much better as Spock, and they wrote Spock out of character. Also I hated making Kirk a cliched wild child rebel. Totally missed the point of Kirk. The second film meanwhile was atrocious. A lazy retread of the greatest Trek film (and one of the greatest sci fi stories of all time.) But done so much worse. Literally the only thing they did differently was "Hey look now Kirk and Spock are on the opposite ends of the glass." Quinto's KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN actually made me laugh. Cumberbatch was also terribly miscast as Khan in every way. Finally the resolution was just a typical generic action movie fight. The third one meanwhile was so generic and boring I actually fell asleep during the middle of it. I can't remember a single thing about it, except one bit where Spock is uncharacteristically weepy and mopey (they wrote Spock EXACTLY like how RTD wrote the Doctor. In both cases we have a distant, alien character that the new writer thinks "nah that's boring let's make him a tortured sexy character and have him be in a relationship with someone because that is more interesting than anything else.".) The only good thing about it was Karl Urban as Bones. Urban's a great actor and he fit the role brilliantly. Other than that, flush it down the toilet with the other turds like the Capaldi era, Pisstaker era, STD, that crappy new Star Trek animated series, that Marvel comic that made out that Jordan Peterson is the Red Skull and JJ Abrams equally shit, up its own arse version of Star Wars. Agree with much of that. Urban was perfect as Bones but the others were dumbed-down parodies of their more comic aspects, which completely ruined the tone. Apart from Spock, who is so rewritten he's unrecognizable. I think plotwise the 1st one is complex and half-decent, but the 3rd one is probably the worst DVD I own. How the hell Idris Elba signed up for it is a mystery - he's utterly wasted. The tonal whiplash is appalling too in that one in particular, it's like RTD Who... look how Kirk gets into a slapstick fight with tiny aliens followed by a Wrath Of Khan/Undiscovered Country-style "We're getting older" scene. Followed by more lovestruck teenage bickering between Uhura and Spock. Which version of the characters is it supposed to be!? |
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Post by UncleDeadly on Apr 16, 2021 13:28:51 GMT
I think that's the explanation... |
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Post by burrunjor on Apr 16, 2021 13:45:08 GMT
I think that's the explanation... We need a laughing emoji. |
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Post by RobFilth on Apr 16, 2021 16:46:59 GMT
Saw the first one and it was okayish in a "meh!" sort of way, the second one sent me to sleep and I didn't bother for the third one.
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Post by Monster X on Apr 16, 2021 19:15:29 GMT
I liked the first one when it came out, but now I find all three of them to be pretty awful. Generic, SF action flicks - not really the Star Trek I loved as a kid. Original Trek was clever, silly, weird, funny and colourful, whereas NuTrek is just bland, flash-bang escapism - TOS with it's brains kicked in.
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Post by iank on Apr 16, 2021 21:35:09 GMT
What Rob said.
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